Crown Heights, Brooklyn — On the first anniversary of the elections for the Crown Heights Beis Din, the Vaad Hakohol of Crown Heights is proud to announce new leadership for the Vaad Hakashrus of the Crown Heights BaDaTz. Effective immediately Rav Yitzchok Zirkind, shlit”a and Rav Shlomo Segal, shlit”a, Rabbonim of the Beis Din, will be serving as co - Executive Supervisors of Kashrus under the esteemed leadership of Rav Osdoba, shlit"a.
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Vaad Hakohol Announces New Leadership for Crown Heights Kashrus
Crown Heights, Brooklyn — On the first anniversary of the elections for the Crown Heights Beis Din, the Vaad Hakohol of Crown Heights is proud to announce new leadership for the Vaad Hakashrus of the Crown Heights BaDaTz. Effective immediately Rav Yitzchok Zirkind, shlit”a and Rav Shlomo Segal, shlit”a, Rabbonim of the Beis Din, will be serving as co – Executive Supervisors of Kashrus under the esteemed leadership of Rav Osdoba, shlit”a.
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According to Vaad Hakohol Chairman Moshe Rubaskin; “By placing all kashrus related issues – especially all Fiscal matters – under the executive supervision of Rav Zirkind, the Vaad Hakohol is taking the necessary steps to eliminate any and all Kashrus concerns in our Kehilla. We hope this will now foster an increased community-wide trust and acceptance of all products and establishments that receive their hechsherim from the Crown Heights BaDaTz.”
It has been the dual goal of the Vaad Hakohol to stimulate community-wide Sholom and Cooperation, in addition to improving the physical quality of life in Crown Heights especially for those among us who are less fortunate. “It is our privilege to serve the community, and we endeavor daily to fulfill our responsibilities to all of ANASH,” said Rubashkin.
Rav Zirkind, on behalf of the Vaad HaKashrus, welcomes any and all questions with regard to kashrus issues.
Eli
A good start in reforming the CHK would be better responsiveness to the community. I had a recent shailoh on a CHK approved product. An email detailing my concerns went unanswered. The same email sent to the other well-known kashrus agency on the product was answered quite precipitously and thoroughly.
Please don’t let requests and issues languish; it gives the impression that the CHK doesn’t care about the well-being of those who rely on their ashirah.
reb noach
VERY NICE
rabbi zirkind much succes in this position and all future positions
Thank You Rabbi Z.
Amazing
i WILL now start eating ONLY BADAT”Z of CH hashgocho, thanks to Rabbi Zirkind
Credit:
Why is there no mention of R’ Levertov who works tirelesly to maintain the Hashgacha?
Brook?
is Yossi Brook still with the CHK?
CHer
The fact that they are “under the esteemed leadership of Rav Osdoba, shlit”a” make this new move similar to moving the chairs around on the deck of the Titanic…
It’s time for the old guard to move on (that includes begining with Yossi Bruk)…
KASHRUS
THIS IS A GIMMICK FROM RUBASHKIN TO TRY TO REGAIN THE CONFIDENCE OF THE KEHILA , BUT IT WONT WORK , AND ITS EVEN MORE CORRUPT.
1) SEGAL AND ZIRKIND ARE NOT LEGITIMATE MEMBERS. 2) THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT KASHRUS 3)UNTIL RABBI SHWEI IS THERE, CHK WILL ALWAYS BE ILLEGITIMATE. 4) KASHRUS MUST BE OWNED BY THE KEHILA AND NOT BE A PRIVATE ENTITY, AND ITS STILL A PRIVATE BUSINESS BEWTWEEN RABBI OZDOBA AND SONS WITH BROOK. 5) THE WHOLE IDEA OF KASHRUS FROM THE START WAS TO SEPARATE THE BEIS DIN FROM FINANCE AND THAT THE RABONIM SHOULD HAVE NO CONNECTION TO FINANCE. BY PLACING ZIRKIND IN CHARGE OF FINANCE IS UNDERMINING THE WHOLE BASIS FOR KASHRUS FROM ITS INCEPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great News
This is the best news i have heard in a long time
Thank you Moshe Rubashkin
Restored Confidence in the CHK
Thank you so much Rabbi Zirkind and Rabbi Segal.
After having lost faith in the CHK as a result of the Matza Scandal, now my trust is complete restored in the CHK.
Because of the New Leadership of the CHK now, I will make sure to purchase ONLY chk products.
CURIOUS
What’s the REAL reason behind this…and where does that leave R’Schwei? Personally, I couldn’t care less as I’m not a fan of the CH Bais Din, but I must admit I’m curious :)
It-s on the symbol
So does this mean that the Crown Heights Cross will now be Kosher?
Eat
Now I will for sure not eat badatz.
chaim
thank you moshe rubashkin
curiouse
im sorry im usually a very posotive person i really can say that about myself but why does this whole kashrus thing have to be such a HUGE deal? it kinda makes me upset….i grew up ffb and everything and it still hurts me to wach so much stress and pain goes into this.I guess this is what golus is…
me myself and i
i still eat in places in ch with out the badatz hechsher bc baced on past experience the badatz spends more time looking at the stores with out the hechsher then they do on thier own shops
Tomim
so i see E. poltrak is going to have more thing’s to write about
Malfeasance
Thank you Moshe Rubashkin! You are soo grrrreeet! What would Crown Heights be without you? At last you get the praise you so humbly deserve.
Many
What Great News!
Now we know for sure who not to trust
ashamed CHer
you can’t fool all the people all the time! Moshe Rubashkin is a Noigea Bedovor. his family is the biggest beneficaries of the curropt hechsher. you can google an article from Rabbi Schein of Lakewood regarding the Rubashkin empire. at the same time the Rubashkins are the biggest supporters of the hechsher and vaad hakashrus with hard cash money. people say that in america what counts is the packaging. Moshe Rubashkin is trying to repackage the chk hechsher so it should sell better. it is an embarrasment that in a time that the world of lubavitch is shaking with horror and sorrow, these lowlives have nothing else what to do but to continue their shameless activities of curroption. Who needs a Lubavitcher hechsher? I’m sure that the OK can accomodate Lubavitchers around the world with the proper hechsher for everything we need. close down this thing called CHK!
Serious and concerned
To Moshe Rubashkin,
Too little too late….
Yes, Pesach Sheini is around the corner, but after the damage done in the past year, only a complete and transparent “changing of the gaurds” will do for us in the community.
Otherwise, you’ll spend the rest of your time in office fighting, etc.
We need a major operation and you’re putting a bandaid on…..
What a shame.
Shlomo
Moshe, you show great leadership. It’s a shonda that people like Sperlin and Hertzog –the previous Vaad- are still trying to take the community down the wrong path. All they do is attack you but you show leadership and courage. And you do so much for the kehilla that you refuse credit and photos for. Yasher koach.
fristrated resident
I HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN ANY OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THIS COMMUNITY
we went through so much corruption and scandles where you saw the most chassidishe looking guys ending up to be phoney and scandurace
i hope and plead to hashem that we can show our true faces as the rebbe wanted us to in a way that we dont have to be ashamed of ourself
i am not here to point fingers at anyone but as soon as you are involved in politics it tends to cause you to cheat lie and fool people
it doesnt matter if you are s.h., m.r., y.s.or even a.a.
rabbonim should not be involved in politics and should justify all what they say totally on halacha
i dont think i need to say more
even though i can go on and on with facts
may hashem protect us and help us to the coming of moshiach speedily in our days
may the merit of the rebbe mara”sh give us the ability to be lichatchilah ariber in the ways of toras emes which that is toras hachasidus, omein
Chaim
1) As long as Yossi Brook is still involved – it’s all the same.
2) Poltrak only writes when he dosen’t have a job, when he finds a job he becomes quiet – when he is fired, he writes again.
Colonel Sanders
They are all a bunch of slimy thieves. I eat Lubavitch meat cuz the last time I checked, the Rubashkin family was Lubavitch! Shor Habor, Aaron’s Best, its all good. Dont get sucked into this bunch of baloney, this whole kashrus thing is a scam to take your money right out of your pockets by telling you that there is something different or better about the CHK meat. PLEASE! The only difference is that the meat is green and it costs your more money, thats all. You can go to Shoprite or Walmart and by Rubashkin meats anywhere in the U.S. and its perfectly kosher. Am I supposed to care that they are playing musical chairs? IM NOT THAT STUPID.
New kashrus team
The reason that rabbi Schwei was not included is simply he does not want to be a “team player” with the other members of the BDATZ.
Rabbi Zirkind for sure has a very deep knowledge of kashrus. Rabbi Segal has been involved for a number of years in kashrus.
I think rabbi Schwei should continue being there for those who need a warm word or pat on the back I must admit he is very good in making people feel good.
Shmuel
Update: From un-confirmed sources tht Yossi Brook was indeed fired.
(I beleive both camps may rejoce on this piece of news)
Malfeasance
Why is Osdoba’s son a part of CHK? Nepotism does not have the best interest of the community.
CHK is no different than the mob shaking people down for money.
bite ...
If they REALLY care about the community they will make sure that
the meat prices are equal to the prices in BP and NJ and not gouge us as they are doing now!
If they REALLY care about the community, they will end this scam
about the difference between Shor HaBor and Aarons. They will also be honest
and transparent about what constitutes “Lubavitch” shechitah in Postville.
If they REALLY care about the community they resolve the Matzah issue
(including the recent loss of $) and make sure that the matzoh is Kosher and affordable in the future
($15 a pound is extortion)
If they REALLY care about the community, they won’t have double-standards for shopkeepers.
If they REALLY care about the community, they will make SHALOM!!!
disgusted by beis din
BITE…
You are SO RIGHT!
well said.
SHA K!?!
wow- a bunch of low lifes…y cant you all just stop speaking loshon hara and harrasing people who are trying to make things better for US… so then after WE wont be able to cmplain if we have a “MONSEY INCCIDENT” better to be more careful…
out-of-towner
If G-d Himself joined the Badatz, you people would start schmeering him, too.
ben abraham
I echo some other sentiments here –
1. It would be nice if CHK meat would cost LESS for CH. maybe the chk leaderhsip change can effect that.
2. Few do, many talk. It is so easy to take potshots and call anything that smells of change a conspiracy or polluted effort. Rubashkin is doing. Let all the talkers tell the mirror what they have done, or even tried to do, to better someone’s lot other han their own.
Then again, this a blog, so what’s the diference. Do-ers don’t care about these places (I hope).
Anonymous
Gosh …..This is PATHETIC. Crown heights….the holy of holy’s..The place where the Rebbe lived and continues to Live..Our Rebbe….and yet a bunch of bored people writing people’s names out????…..talking bad about people behind their backs and having the audacity to mention their names and last names?? What a disgrace…..A chillul Lubavitch to all….you should be ashamed of yourselves….I’m hoping to G-d that all the people posting on this site learn from their mistakes….regret them…and never do them again….This entire thing makes me sick to my stomache. A little maturity…that’s all I ask for.
QUENCH THE FIRES OF MACHLOKIS NOW
IT IS SO UNFORTUNATE THAT AT LEAST SOME OF US HAVE BECOME SO VERY CYNICAL. WE DO NOT SEE THAT WE OURSELVES HAVE BECOME BLINDLY ABSORBED IN THE MACHLOKIS THAT WE COMPLAIN ABOUT.
THE LIKES OF THE NASH’S, SPERLIN’S, HERZOG’S, POLTRAK’S AND CO-CONSPIRITORS HAVE SUCCESSFULLY COMMUNICATED TO AT LEAST SOME OF OUR HOLY BROTHERHOOD AND SISTERHOOD THAT GOOD IS BAD, AND HOLY IS UNHOLY.
SO VERY SADLY, EVER SINCE THESE PEOPLE HAVE BECOME INVOLVED IN SAVING THE WORLD MACHLOKIS HAS REIGNED SUPREME, AND NOW TRAGEDIES ABOUND EVERYWHERE.
THIS MACHLOKIS MUST BE STOPPED NOW!
THIS IS A PLEA FROM THE HEART AND MIND OF ONE CHOSID WHO AGREES WITH HUNDREDS OF LIKE MINDED BUT QUIET OBSERVERS WHO HAVE BEEN WATCHING IN DISBELIEF, NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO, AS OUR COMMUNITY IS TAKEN BY MANIPULATION OF TRUTH, SPIN CONTROL, AND AGAIN TRAGEDIES.
I PRAY THAT WE WILL ALL WAKE UP, SHAKE OFF THE DUST OF HELPLESSSNESS, AND CYNICISM, AND TAKE BACK THE HOLY COMMUNITY THAT THE REBBE HAS BUILT FOR US AND FOR THE WORLD.
PERHAPS A LETTER CAMPAIGN TO THE CAMP OF SPOILERS LISTED (IN PART) ABOVE, WOULD BE A GOOD BEGINNING. THE LETTER COULD STATE UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT WE REJECT AND REPUDIATE EFFORTS OF THIS GROUP TO INFLICT ITS WRECKLESS AND INJURIOUS DIVISIVENESS, AND MACHLOKIS ON OUR COMMUNITY. PIROD BRINGS ONLY TRAGEDY, AND WE HAVE ALREADY HAD ENOUGH OF THAT. PLEASE DESIST IN YOUR ACTIVITIES IMMEDIATELY.
I THINK A CC: SHOULD BE SENT TO RABBI OSDOBA AND RABBI SCHWEII. THEY SHOULD BE APPRISED OF THE COMMUNITY’S RESPONSE.
disgusted resident
To Quench etc…
The Rabbis know how we feel. They just don’t care. Why should they? We don’t do anything to make them change their ways.
And as our “Rabbonim”, they MUST TAKE A HUGE PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MISERY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
B’Gashmius AND B’Ruchnius.
STOP NOW!!!
Stop with the lashen horah
Elie Poltorak
I haven’t written in a while because there were quiet efforts underway to resolve this terrible machlokes through a din torah; however, since certain individuals have demonstrated that they will never agree to a din torah no matter what and that any negotiations are merely stalling tactics to buy time, you may rest assured that letters will be forthcoming in the near future to appraise the community of the latest outrages.
badatz+chjcc...
Doesn’t anyone think Moshe RUBASKIN is Nege’ir B’ Dava??
Why thank him anyway…he’s a major player & cause of CH problems.
Ad Moisay
Its amazing to see day in and day out the likes of herzog, Sandhause Sperlin and Krause confir together for hours in the middle of a work day and plot their next move.
Unfortunatly nothing good has come out from these “gentlemen”. No one is saying the Rubashkin is a tzaddik in fact he is far from one.
But how long can we continue this horrible machlokos? What good will come from it.?
At this point no one cares about the Beis Din or the CHK.
What are we doing about about the chinuch of our children? parents are paying through their noses some parents pay more in tuition then they almost earn. Are our children getting a proper education in Oholei Torah Beis Rivkah or the other yeshivas around the world? Parents are paying are forced to their knees to pay tuition and when they finsih that they are once again forced to pay camp fees. Where will it stop?
Firstly this is causing young couples to reconsider having more children, This puts huge pressure on parents and then who knows how it effects the children and sholom bayis.
Who is going to take responsiblity for all of this???
to mr quench fires
I dont believe your sincere plea for one moment. If you were really sincere , you would have not named the people that you named and ommit the most obvious of all Baalei machloikes, Moshe Rubashkin. By selecting those names you have proven that you have your own agenda and are guilty of perpetuating machloikes more than anyone you have named.
TO POLTORAK
MR. POLTORAK;
DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR “HELPFUL” WRITING IS NOT WANTED IN THIS COMMUNITY. HAVEN’T WE ALL SUFFERED ENOUGH FROM MACHLOKIS? NEED I LIST THE TRAGEDIES WE HAVE HAD IN RECENT WEEKS?
AT THE 2 IYAR FARBRENGEN RABBI CHEIN OF
QUEENS WHO LOST HIS WIFE AND MOTHER IN LAW R’L IN A TRAGIC CAR ACCIDENT SPOKE ABOUT THE DIRE NEED FOR ACHDUS AND AHAVAS YISROEL NOW!
SO SAVE YOUR WRITINGS. LEAVE US ALONE. WE DO NOT NEED YOUR HELP.
Din Tora to put out fire
to: QUENCH THE FIRES OF MACHLOKIS NOW
Just to throw an hostil statement with out any proof and facts shows exactly what type of person you are and that you belong to the camp that is fully responsible for today’s situation in CH.
Abuse of power and tyrany are what caused us to be where we are today.
Knowing well the recent intents to get to resolve things I can tell you that Mr Poltorak is 100% right.
Unfortunatelly your camp is not interested in resolving the machloikes the Torah way they refuse to go to Din Tora or Zablo and let Torah decide.
Perhaps you should write a letter and get 1000 signatures just to ask the 2 rabbonim to go to a Din Tora and make a stop to all this!!!
Poltrak fan
Hasnt it occured to you that the problem itself is causing all the tragedies and not the writing about it.
You remind me of the story of the guy that was beaten and puncehed and in the process was screaming ouch! Someone told him that his screaming ouch is making noise and is divisive. No further explanation needed. Elie, keep up the good work , tell the truth and expose corruption , because if we rid ourselves of corruption only then will we avert tragedy chas vesholom and have a Community at peace.
CH
The real problem here is that the communnity at large does not know what’s really going on. Our communnity is an honest one and does not support corruption. Take a look what happend when the Rebbe made everybody aware of the situation in CH before the elections of Rabbonim and Vaad. An united kehila got up and demanded democratic elections etc. but now some individuals want to go back to the days of dictatorship in CH, and when someone doesn’t agree and goes public becomes a baal machloikes!!!
Amaizing!!!