Weekly Story: Chassidus vs. Kabbalah

by Rabbi Sholom Avtzon

Through a story, I would like to address h a question that is frequently asked: “What is the difference between Chassidus and Kabbalah? Are they similar to each other, the former being merely an explanation of the latter? And if they are distinct, which one is greater?”

A scholarly Jew by the name of Reb Dovid of Nikolayev was visiting the Baal Shem Tov for the first time. He had been warned that people who came to the Baal Shem Tov would often experience an unusual phenomenon. As soon as the Baal Shem Tov would begin speaking, they would fall asleep as if they had been placed under a spell, and they would be unable to hear the his holy words.

Reb Dovid decided to do whatever he could to stay awake. After all, the reason he had undertaken such a long journey was to hear and learn, not to sleep! He made sure to get a good night’s sleep, and to further guarantee that he would remain awake, he drank a stimulating type of beverage. He was now ready to listen and learn from the Baal Shem soon enough; the Baal Shem Tov began talking, explaining and elaborating on the kavanos of mikvah. Reb Dovid was delighted. He was able to hear the Baal Shem Tov speak, and he was even able to understand the teachings! But then the Baal Shem Tov said a certain statement, and Reb Dovid said to himself, “Did I just hear correctly? The Baal Shem Tov is arguing with the Arizal!”

As soon as the thought crossed his mind, he felt a drowsiness unlike he had ever felt before. As much as he tried to fight it off, it did not help, and he fell into a deep sleep. He dreamt that he was in Mesivta DeRakia, the Heavenly Academy, and he saw that everyone was rushing towards a certain Beis Hamidrash. “Where is everyone rushing He was told that the Baal Shem Tov was about to deliver a shiur. Hearing this, he joined the crowd and rushed along as well.

Reb Dovid entered the Beis Hamidrash and found himself a place up front. A moment later he heard the Baal Shem Tov beginning to speak. His excitement turned to shock as he realized that the Baal Shem Tov was repeating the very words he had just heard him say in the physical realm. He was explaining the thoughts and purpose of mikvah. Suddenly, a young man stood up and began questioning the Baal Shem Tov. Reb Dovid was taken aback. “Who is that person who has the chutzpah to argue with the Baal Shem “He is the heilike Arizal!” the man replied.

Listening to the Arizal, Reb Dovid realized they his questions were the exact ones that had been bothering him just before! After the Arizal finished talking, the Baal Shem Tov gave a reply. A few more questions and answers followed, until the Arizal admitted that the Baal Shem Tov was correct. At that point, Reb Dovid awoke.

At that very moment, he heard one of the students say, “Rebbe, how does this explanation fit with the teachings of the Arizal?”

“We have with us Reb Dovid of Nikolayev,” the Baal Shem Tov replied. “Reb Dovid, Reb Dovid repeated the vision he had just experienced, and he became one of the Baal While one may find this story nice and beautiful, if that’s where it remains, then it’s just a story and nothing more. But in truth it’s more than just a story; if we probe a bit deeper, we will see that it is teaching us a great and important lesson. It is teaching us the essential difference between Kabbalah and Chassidus.

The Arizal explained the teachings of Kabbalah. Who revealed the teachings of Kabbalah? The Rashbi, Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai. Who taught the Rashbi? Eliyahu In other words, Kabbalah is the Torah as it was taught by Eliyahu Hanavi.

Now, the Baal Shem Tov revealed Chassidus to us. Who taught the Baal Shem Tov? The prophet Achiyah Hashiloni. And who was Achiyah Hashiloni? The Rebbe of Eliyahu So Chassidus consists of the teachings of Achiya Hashiloni, while Kabbalah comprises the teachings of his student, Eliyahu Hanavi. Is it any wonder, then, that the Arizal admitted that the explanation of the Baal Shem Tov was the true and correct one?

In other words, if there would be an argument between the Baal Shem Tov and Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai himself (not just with the Arizal, who explained the teachings of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai), it would have the same results. He, too, would have agreed to the Baal Shem Tov’s decision, because Chassidus is the pnimiyus, and Kabbalah (when compared to Chassidus) is the chitzoniyus.


  • 1. Pathetic wrote:

    The difference between the two is far greater than a difference of generations. See kuntres inyono shel toras hachassidus for the real difference. Its translated into English, called ” on the essence of chassidus”

  • 2. Rabbi Avtzon wrote:

    I didn’t write a difference of generations
    I wrote this is pnimiyus and that is chitzoniyus when compared to Chassidus
    So I don’t now where you got the thought of a generational difference

    • 3. appreciated one wrote:

      With all due respect Rabbi Avtzon,

      we all know there is a major difference in generations on how we look on Kabbalah verses Chassidus.

      years ago no one learnt it till the Alte Rebbe,

      Your reply sounds aggressive and negative a person asks you a simple question, please reply in a sweet gestural note,, no need to negativity,

  • 4. urik wrote:

    With all due respect, I don’t blame Rabbi Avtzon for his answer. The questioner’s post was titled “Pathetic.” So he was giving an answer that fit the rude question.


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