In the English Colel Chabad Calendar there is a mistake with regards to when we start saying “Vten Tal U'Matar”.

On page 56 it incorrectly states that we begin saying “ותן טל ומטר” on Sunday night the 4th of Kislev, when it should be Thursday night the 8th of Kislev.

PSA: Correction in the Colel Chabad Calendar

In the English Colel Chabad Calendar there is a mistake with regards to when we start saying “Vten Tal U’Matar”.

On page 56 it incorrectly states that we begin saying “ותן טל ומטר” on Sunday night the 4th of Kislev, when it should be Thursday night the 8th of Kislev.

4 Comments

  • sara

    doesn’t it go by the solar calendar rather than the lunar ? it’s in the siddur when to change

  • To sara

    Exactly so. That’s why it’s on Thursday night:
    In the Siddur (Annotated English – Kehos), he writes the evening before DECEMBER 4th or before DECEMBER 5th (depending on civil regular year, or civil leap year).

    It actually went up a day in the year 2000 (because of the Gregorian calendar issue, always to catch up a bit — in brief).

  • CR

    It actually went up a day in the year 2000 (because of the Gregorian calendar issue, always to catch up a bit — in brief).

    Year 2000 was actually the exception to the exception. The Gregorian calendar is structured with leap years every 4 years EXCEPT for years divisible by 100 EXCEPT for years divisible by 400. So, 1800 and 1900 were 365 days while 2000 was 366 (just like 1996 and 2004). The date for starting Tal U’Matar is actually fixed to November 22/23 on the Julian calendar which always has a leap year every 4 years. So, every century the start of Tal U’Matar slips one day unless the year is divisible by 400. So the date did not slip in 2000. It will in 2100, however.

  • Mark

    Corrections to siddurim aside, what is the basis for using 4/5 December as the date for beginning to say a bracha associated with the winter?

    Gut Shabbos!