From the inbox: I am not against all secular magazines, but when I went to a Jewish owned beauty salon in CH I was surprised to see among the reading material, some magazines that have virtually no redeeming value whatsoever and the only reason that someone would read such as magazine would be to see what the less moral side of the world is doing.
Op-Ed: Non–Tznius Magazines in Frum Establishments
From the inbox: I am not against all secular magazines, but when I went to a Jewish owned beauty salon in CH I was surprised to see among the reading material, some magazines that have virtually no redeeming value whatsoever and the only reason that someone would read such as magazine would be to see what the less moral side of the world is doing.
I would preface this by saying that I am not against all secular magazines and find some to be informative and useful or at least interesting and not at odds with Yiddishkeit. I would also add the disclaimer that I realize that businesses do not have to occupy themselves with scrutinizing and censoring the reading material of other adults nor do they have to cater only to the frum population.
That being said, I would like to address the following. I went to a Jewish owned beauty salon in CH and was surprised to see among the reading material, some magazines that have virtually no redeeming value whatsoever and the only reason that someone would read such as magazine would be to see what the less moral side of the world is doing. Again, I reiterate, there might be a valid reason for such a magazine in a business establishment that caters mainly to Orthodox women, but I can’t figure out what the valid reason would be. I would be very uncomfortable reading such a magazine, especially in public. Why would frum women “need” magazines devoted to reducing the moral character of society?
With the fabric of frum society deteriorating rapidly with behavior that was unheard of 20 years ago, why encourage it to decline further?
I agree that most frum magazines have not really addressed fashion from a frum perspective and those women who want to see what is in fashion will read non-frum fashion magazines but this magazine went beyond simply exposing women to clothing styles. To me there still needs to be a boundary and line that is not crossed, at least in frum establishments.
I realize that no one is forced to read the magazine and it might just sit in it’s rack unread by a public that realizes what it espouses but shouldn’t the magazine rack in a frum establishment be a bit more family oriented? Not all fashion magazines are as morally bankrupt as the one that I saw in the beauty salon for religious women.
Maybe the owners will realize that their business will probably not suffer if they remove the magazine and will replace it with something more socially redeeming.
If you had an experience or an encounter that you would like to share with our readers, please send it in to editor@crownheights.info and we will gladly publish it!
Against electronic pashkvillin
Why don’t you do everybody a favor and DON’T PUBLISH ANYTHINGT unless ppl put their names on it.
This goes for comments too.
hypocrisy
to comment 1, and what, you are potur from your own suggestions?
Out of Towner
One hundred percent in favor of this article.
Crown Heights, time to get your head out of the sand!
Hollywood and the self-serving fashion culture is decadent and destroys family life and moral integrity.
The more we let this filth into our homes and our businesses, the more we will look and sound like the trash and problems of that society.
The author hit the nail on the head and I applaud her for writing this piece. Right on.
cocoaman
if u r talking about the same establishment as I think u r (i hope there is only 1 in ch) then I agree with u totally.not only was I turned off by their choice of reading material but with their choice of music as well.loud spanish music in a jewish business.no one is asking for avraham fried,at least put classical music without words…i stopped going there and now go elsewhere.
I love it
I love how the OpEds get better and better at making sure no one will bash and smash them… haha we all will anyway, jews… lubabs mixed you will get comments regardless…
anyway now my time to bash
i love CHI
first he posts a article against those who tried to remove the shmutz from the store that sells it. (yes those guys did it wrong )
now he posts this oped that bashes a store for providing it free… while you get your hair done…
jew
very nice but first learn how to spell
Huh?
I don’t get it. This lady objects to these magazines being in a women’s salon but she went ahead and read it anyhow. It’s hard to imagine that there was clothing in there that we don’t see on city streets every day in the summer anyhow, or (other than swim suits) are seen in chabad houses around the country.
blah blah blah
although on one hand i agree with this article, on the other hand i’m getting sick of hearing about it. crown heights has changed, its not the same place it was 20 years ago. today its about the cars (especially the german cars) the homes and the clothes its about how short the skirt can be and still be able to go into bais rivkah to pick up your daughter and not have anyone say anything to you. i guess what i’m getting at is that you have a choice you can deal with it, you can try to change it or you can move. but either way this article doesnt help anybody.
ch goya
An individual’s reaction to a situation is their own responsibility.
If one is at an establishment and something bothers them, they gently and discreetly speak with the owner. But if one is going to present a problem, one should also present a solution (magazines specifically for travel, kosher food, parenting, psychology, etc.).
If the owner won’t change the situation, don’t go there or if you do, either bring your own reading material or be an adult about it and CHOOSE to not be affected. Honestly, my vote is for the latter two items. People need to stop expecting everybody else to babysit them.
There’s more strength in choosing what is right and keeping a clean mind than putting blinders on.
“find some to be informative and useful or at least interesting”
Open your eyes! Why is there such a focus on frum fashion? That stuff is online and it’s not like your brain learns anything from it.
Secondly, I haven’t subscribed to any women’s magazines since the 80s. They’re trash, focus on materialism, are shallow and make women too body conscious.
Lucky Charms
Op-ed: You make a valid point, but in the wrong venue.
This was in a woman’s beauty salon, right?
Often women’s magazines displayed are helpful to point out a hair style (for hair or wig), a makeup or other woman’s beauty aids shown in photos or ads. The customer can get ideas for products (kosher ones) that they can purchase or use.
There is a legitimate purpose for such magazines in such an establishment!
(I am sure you wouldn’t object to photos of women’s undergarments, showing styles and features, in a woman’s store that sells such products… but then again, maybe you would object to that, too).
food for thought
Im just wondering which establishment you are speaking about. Because there was one that was once owned by a Jew, but has since been sold to one of the spanish manicurists who worked there, however she keeps up appearances as if its still owned by a Jew, even keeping the original jewish name, mezuzahs on the doors, and even kosher coffee and chalav yisroel milk. Im assuming she wants to keep the jewish clientele. So this may explain the magazines and the music.But regardless, if you dont like it, just go somewhere else, there is certainly no shortage of nail salons!
outsider to #7
its bad enugh that we see such things on the streets and its only because of the us that we see such things because its 65% (if not more) of the jewish pepole that dress like that
right!right!right!
not jewsih magazines are wrong!wrong!wrong!
To #8 May Hashem help you!
AGREE
i try to support the businesses in the area but i too get very turned off by l;ack of tznius and it discourages me from going out of my way to support them
malka T.
Its the pain of golus, that has gotten to them. This profes them to engange ion such acts.
May hashem releive the ever growing pain, asap. Thank you. Have a nice weekend.
Mendel mashka
Are we talking about Beis moshiach? Lol. No seriously. What I find funny is that you’ll stop going to the drum place cause of the magazines and music. But you’ll go and give your money to the asian goyim instead who anyway have that music and magazines.
tznius right on websites
CHinfo, maybe if this op-ed is about Tznius there should be a more tzniusdike picture to the article? (althouth the magazines are blurred it doesnt take too much to see what’s on there)
Move if you don-t like it.
Really. Go to Boro Bark.
to Number 1
#1, What is YOUR name?????????????
bigger problems to worry about
I seriously agree with number 8 the way the woman come to bais rivkah its like the new law is to wear your skirt not around the knee but by your thigh and no shaitel . Why is it that no one at the door is incharge I would rather that the mothers cared about how they look then to worry about what they read in a nail salon .
an compare this to
I can’t believe this article. CH is the greatest opportunity for Shlichus today with its high concentration of non observant Jews and the few remaining Lubavitchers. Obviously any family whose women do not dress tzniusdik i.e. cover her arms legs & chest properly or who walks out of the house w/o a shaitel is not a Lubavitcher. Any man who touches his beard or doesn’t dress in the style of Chassidim i.e. black hat and jacket is not a Lubavitcher. We can compare this to other groups who impostor the Jewish religion. The twain don’t mix and you have to make choices.
To #7
She didnt have to read it she saw the cover and that was enough to know what kind of magazine it was!!!!!!
Like the old saying goes...
Big deal to sit in a shul and remain Jewish, what trick is there in that. Go to a theatre or a Goyishe concert and dont be affected, then you’ll be showing your true comitment…!
How absured.
MKG
Very sad. May we all have a nechomo. Ad mosai? Till when?
Its one of the most very important issues in our time,
2nd to the iranian nuclear threat to wipe the state of israel,
Not israel itself, off the map – for good.
#18
Move to park slope if you don’t like getting dressed before you leave home
la costa
when i eat at a certain relatives house i always struggle bec. my teenage daughters find these same magazines and it urks me. i recognize that its not my house and therefore cant say anything.
L.A. Morah
#8-is that really true about my old highscool bais rivka? how do people go into the rebbe’s moisad like that? i guess i’m just naive.
Chana Schoenberg
I already commented to a owner several times to remove this tempting trash from the beauty salon. In fact I replaced it with National Geo, The New Yorker,(great cartoons) Real and Simple, and other magazines with a bit more substance. The proprietress agreed with me. But unless you are going to have a 24/7 tznius patrol, the trash comes creeping back again, like the blob, little by little. Not even two months later, the same garabage was there, prompting me once again to voice my opinion, and again she agreed, etc. etc. we will see what the status will be in about two months; anyone want to make a bet?
sara
Would it be so terrible for the Crown Heights salons to get the Jewish Press, HaModia, Bina, etc. ? After all, how much non Jewish clientele could they have ?
short skirts hmmmmmm
seriously the holocaust happened only 70 years ago and i have no idea why people drive around in german cars its horrible . and i agree with number 8 people have bigger things to worry about . i have no idea why woman want to wear such short skirts to bais rivkah and why no one there even cares .
Who knows what you-re looking at
Didn’t some Kollel yungerleit address this last year, and the commenters lambasted them for it?
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people dont read these magazines because they want to know sooo badly what’s going on in these peoples lives. people read it because i have never ever once saw a interesting enought jewish magazine to pick up and read over the non jewish ones
Keep the magazines
you need these magazines in these establishments. One must know the devils work!
totally agree
we all want to support fellow lubavitchers- but those that dont act like it- i see no reason to support them more than yiddin in the other areas…sorry…but thats where i choose to shop- i rather know my $ is going to support a frum family
Shlomo
From were I come from…from what I’ve seen,…this doesn’t even make the list.!
Admosai.
menachem shuchat
Why is the focus on the lady in the magazine in a place where only women are reading them? What’s being ignored is the real problem: THE WOMEN OF CROWN HEIGHTS FROM LUBAVITCHER FAMILIES WHO ARE LENIENT IN THEIR WAY OF DRESS TOTALLY DISREGARDING THE GUIDELINES OF TSNIUS SET BY THE REBBE & THE TSEMACH TSEDEK. These women bear the responsibility of being the deplorable example to those others who are following in their footsteps saying that if so and so who’s also a Lubavitcher can go dressed like that why can’t I? The Rebbe’s opinion is very clear, that the dress/skirt length must be long enough as to cover the knee completely when sitting down. The hair should be covered with a shaitel at all times in public, NOT WITH A TICHEL. The Tsemach Tsedek is very clear in his opinion that besides her husband, no other man in the world is allowed to see even one hair of her head. Dressing with one’s legs uncovered is clearly against the Alter Rebbe’s opinion in his shulchan aruch that the legs are also in the category of “shok b’isha ervah” as Rav Zalmmen Shimon Dvorkin paskened. For a complete guide see Rabbi MOshe Weiner’s sefer Kvudah Bas Maelech, to which the Rebbe wrote to him “chaval al kol yom shemisakev krias v’limud sefer zeh”. Dressing in any manner that is contrary, is going against shulchan aruch & the teachings of the Rabbeim.
t s
Superficially a nicely written piece and with many disclaimers, but still, the bottom line is – why are you writing this piece at all? To Collive?
Seems to me that you are more concerned with your feelings and standing on a box in the marketplace to get attention, than actually addressing that about which you say you have strong feelings.
If you think something has no redeeming value – don’t read or buy it.
You hold the position that businesses do not have to occupy themselves with scrutinizing and censoring the reading material of other adults nor do they have to cater only to the frum population. End of story, no?
What gives you the right to project your limited reasoning powers on everyone else?
You are just a customer. You have the choice and responsibility to choose what you read or don’t. You have the choice and responsibility to choose what stores to enter. but youchose to iognore thoise and indulge in airing what you feel to be someone else’s dirty laundry in public rather than provately offering to help that person wash it.
If to you “there still needs to be a boundary and line that is not crossed” make sure YOU don’t cross it. But why is your opinion noteworthy about what should or should not be in “frum establishments”? Are you the appointed town Mashpia to preach to others about what “encourages” the “decline” of society?
(Side point: I think the Rebbe’s notion of pushing Judaism onto people has been perversley applied by many into telling everyone else about what they need to do better. Think why the Rebbe chose certain 10 mivtzoim and didn’t just say there are 613 mivtzoim).
Your comments and opinion are at best appropriate for a private discussion between you and the establishment ownership. If you want to learn someone’s “valid” reason for having a certain publication in their private business establishment, why don’t you simply ask THEM and take it from there. Either they will edcuate you, or you them or you remain respectful of your differening positions, or you choose not to go where you get offended. You could also communicate with the owners/editors of the magazine that triggered your sentiment engaging with them about what is “beyond simply exposing women to clothing styles” and the evils they bestow upon you and society.
But writing to a general publicizing entity that store X has bad magazines and you just don’t get why – seems to be lazy, childish and counter-productive to a better society.
What has this world become???
People… this world is empty of morals, dont you get it? To all of you who dress (or not much) the way you do, do you honestly think it is morally OK? as a bas yisroel, do you beleive it’s OK? or do you allow the moveis to dictate how your life should go? do you allow the secular world around you to define your morals?
WAKE UP! We are bnei Yisroel, we have survived all the hardships and persecution because of the Noshim Tzidkoniyos, dont ruin it for us!!!
baalteshuva...still
Tznius issues are one of the reasons I left Lubavitch, which has evolved since Gimmel Tammuz into a Modern Orthodox movement. (And it’s perceived as such by other groups.)
I do not want to be around such dress, behavior, etc. Plain and simple.
Agreed
Agreed. This is not the only salon here that provides provocative reading material – not only is it disappointing, it is downright deplorable. The magazines are loudly immodest and DO NOT BELONG here – I see ABSOLUTELY no merit in these publications being available. In fact, I find it insulting to our basic values, no matter how “chassidish” or “unchassidish” you want to define yourself. Are you an observant Jew? Then these materials should rub you the wrong way!
someone from usa
to # 8 u are absolutely right well i dont live in crown heights but every time i go i am like shoked skirts way over the knee and boys are with girls its so sad we need mashiacj ad mosai p.s im a pretty free girl i mean like internet … and i just get grossed out from these stuff
josh
agree with #25!!
if you’re not orthodox, we love you, but leave our sacred community.
One Question
Did you bother speaking to the proprietor of this establishment? I am sure that she is not a rabbi or rebbetzin. And if he or she sees you returning, she assumes that you like the way she runs her business. After all in the recent months there have been a few establishments of the kind open in the community.
I am sure if the women in the forum who expressed objection would kindly mention this to her, she would change her way of business.Or at least consider it
GET OVER YOURSELF!
GET OVER YOURSELVES!!!!
if you dont want to read it, dont look at it. your not the only person there! non jews also might also come here, and if its bothering you – READ SOMETHING ELSE!!!! just dont pick it up and read it, then complain its there…or just complain because it IS there. GET OVER IT!
agreeing with the other comment….CH has changed, its year 5770-2010. kosher fashion has changed, and its a different era that our children are growing up in. they dont have to read it, but you should know that they may look at these magazines…for clothes make up – we’re girls we DO that. its not like they are going to go off the rails or going to out of the blue be persuaded into acting like “immoral” people. those people in the magazines are NOT immoral, they jsut seem to not respect the values that they have or dont have as much as we do. who cares. you dont have to put them down just because they are like that and are not jewish. most of those actors out there are jewish anyways. so get over yourself, and try your hardest to ignore it. if you cant – go to another hairdesser!
Lucky Charms
The op-ed opening sentence defines the problem: “I would preface this by saying that I am not against all secular magazines and find some to be informative and useful or at least interesting and not at odds with Yiddishkeit.”
So, you, the op-ed, decided that certain secular/trief magazines are not too trief, but others are totally trief and therefore you find them offensive.
Once you go down the slippery slope of allowing secular magazines, the floodgates are open, and don’t expect everyone else to be on your exact tolerance level.
What’s wrong with only reading Der Yiddishe Heim, Talks and Tales and Nishei Newsletter? Secular publications are trief, and like trief food, if it ain’t kosher – it’s trief.
If you aren’t against all secular newspapers – it’s like being a little bit pregnant, you either are, or aren’t.
Having a wishy-washy standard and them wondering why eveyone else doesn’t adhere to it is, with all due respect…absurd.
To #25: I have no problems
This is a free country, and I can do whatever I want, whether you like it or not. I don’t have to move anywhere. If that bothers you, then feel free to pick up your pekalach and move.
And anyways, if a woman has problems seeing a non-modest woman on the cover of a magazine, then she has some other issues…
crownheights.info
wow! News that has potential to destroy a business! Lets make known to whom ever visits this site! ENOUGH
the author
I didn’t read the magazine only the cover. It espouses a lifestyle antithetical to Torah. Hairstyle magazines only show hairstyles and don’t necessarily have to destroy the moral fabric on society.
I admire those who don’t read any secular literature, however I find nothing wrong with magazines that give financial information or are for those who do sewing and crafts. That is not antithetical to Torah.
TO AUTHOR
Dear Author,
I don’t think this the right way to bring out a point, especially if it’s importand to you. FIRST of all, everyone has free choice, if somone chooses to to read such a magazine its really there own issue, not the establishment. SECOND of all , no matter what your opinion is you have to be EXTREMELY carefull not to say loshon hora or hurt somone else’s livlihood in any shape or form. I would suggest you kindly worry about your own yeter hora and not others, that will go a long way in making the world and crown height a better place
author again
To #45, I am talking about only that which is actually forbidden by Torah. There is no need to put cooking magazines that only have recipes in that category. I was not even referring to magazines that have immodest clothing but does not promote values that are against Torah. The magazine that I am referring to espoused illicit relationships. I don’t have the issues that #46 alludes to. What if one person who read the magazine decided to commit adultery as a result?
author
To #49, In my disclaimers, I mentioned free choice but then, other comments dissed the disclaimers. I did not specify which salon the magazines were in, nor did I say anything negative about the service in the salon. I even said that removing the magazine would not decrease the volume of business and it might even increase. There is nothing KIND about worrying only about your own yetzer hara. The Torah tells us not to put a stumbling block before the blind.
L.A. Morah
dear author,oy this galus is dark! there is no need for you to get defensive regarding adding to the call for more tzneeus.do you have any idea what people say about crown heights now ,the rebbe’s shechuna!?i’m sorry but it is selfish of people who say they are lubavithchers to dress however they might feel BECAUSE IT DIRECTLY REFLECTS ON OUR REBBE!
No Taliban, Thanks!
Dear menachem shuchat,
Where in the Torah does it say that a married woman must wear a skirt covering her knees when sitting down and that every hair on her head must be covered?
If I’m walking down a street with nothing but clean and good thoughts in my mind and my skirt almost but not fully covers my knees but you see me and feel anger and judge me or have impure thoughts, which of us two are worse?
Frankly, I’ve received more unwelcome (and rude actions) attention from men when I dress very modestly as opposed to a little more casually. I’ve also heard males talking terribly about females. That said, clothing and hair are the LEAST of this community’s issues.
I don’t care what anyone thinks. I’m a good person, I leave the judgment up to Hashem.
one more point
Just to add…. the music one place had was Spanish church music and orations by the priest! I was not able to reach the owner since I don’t live in CH, but truthfully I should have made the effort, maybe if we ask the spanish ladies to close the radio they might get the message
L.A. Morah
no taliban,
the “where does it say in the torah”argument is old and frankly is rediculous for people who call themselves frum.good thoughts are wonderful but hamaisa hu haikar my dear.lastly,please don’t use the excuse of someone else’s poor behavior or other seemingly more important issues to justify your own behaivior-that’s just immature.really,i realize that so much of this tzneeus problem is about emotional immaturity.
TALIBAN
YOU PEOPLE WHO PERPETRATE OR CONDONE
UN-TNIUS ARE SADISTS!!!! I have said this before,
and it’s worth repeating. I mean, what can be more
cruel than TORTURE OF THE MIND?!…..
To #53
#53: This has nothing to do with the Taliban. It simply has to do with the halacha.
Menachem Shuchat quoted sources. CH is a frum community and those who live there should respect the halacha. It’s not a matter of who has “impure thoughts”–if you consider yourself frum, you have an obligation to follow G-d’s Words. If you feel confident facing the Rebbe how you are dressed, I feel nothing but pity for you. May we merit the revelation of moshiach now.
I had no clue that fellow women think in the same arrogant vein as you do…
Skirts length
For those of you who quote so generously the Rebbe, well
Look at the Aigeres Hakodesh that is in volume 27 in the Hebrew page 256
The Rebbe writes “In reference to what was written earlier about the behavior of Bnos Yisroel, especially in this generation, and in reference to what was asked of me many times about the length of dresses yodua dati (my opinion is known) that the measurement that is fitting ALL Jewish girls EVERY place is that ‘The knees should be covered at all times even when sitting down. And this is the MINIMUM!!”
lOOK IT UP IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE IT!!
Chaya S
I can’t believe that you’re so vain as to go to get your nails done!!! What is CH coming to?!
When we were growing up, if we did our nails, it was in the privacy of our bedroom…
TO #37
SO SORRY BUT IT’S A FREE COUNTRY. SHE HAS AS MUCH RIGHT TO SUBMIT HER OPINION AS YOU DID TO SUBMIT YOURS!
teach the kids by example
I agree with Menachem Shuchat. We have bigger problems than this. I took my granddaughter to Bais Rivka last week & I was horrified by how some mothers dress.
Magazines are the least of CH problems. Madam author: I understand your concerns, but put them in perspective. Direct your attention to the women & girls who go up & down Kingston bare-legged, bare-armed, low neck tops, mini skirts, & the married ones wear tichels halfway back on their heads. I think this blatant flouting of Tznius is more serious.
TO THE AUTHOR!!!!!
R U SERIOUS?! PEOPLE MAY READ IT AND WANT TO COMMIT AN ACT OF ADULTERY?! THE SECOND I STEP FOOT IN CH IT STINKS LIKE ADULTERY!! DONT BLAME THE MESSED UP THINGS THAT ARE GOING WRONG IN CH AND IN LUBAVITCH ON CELEBRITIES. AND THEIR DRESSING MAY NOT BE THE MOST MODEST BUT THATS JUST HOW THEY WERE BROUGHT UP. U HAVE NO IDEA HOW PATHETIC U SOUND! AS A YOUNG GIRL I PROMISE THERE ARE MORE THINGS THAT MAKE ME WANNA DO AN ACT OF ADULTERY THAN DUMB MAGAZINES IN A DUMB SALON. AND + I THINK U OWE THE OWNER A BIIIIG APOLOGY!! I LOVE HOW U GUYS R LIKE “OY VEY, AD MOSAI! MASHIACH NOW! THERE ARE GOYESHE MAGAZINES! ROBONO SHEL OLAM!!!” WHY DONT U FIRST THINK ABOUT THE SINAS CHINAM AND THE LOSHON HORA AND THE LACK OF AHAVAS YISROEL?! LOOKING FORWARD TO AN ANSWER…
bashful
i love all the passion on this,lets have so much passion with everything
not vain
#59 – Chaya S. I don’t think the point being addressed is polishing nails. Whether people choose to polish their nails or any other beauty treatments is up to them and each person does it for their own reasons. The problems being voiced here are many and a general feeling of love, Ahavas Yisroel and Dan L’Kaf Zechus would be more in order. I consider myself frum, tznius and chassidishe Chabad – and I am sure the Rebbe would too, but I do know that this is a new generation where we need to protect ourselves from the outside influences as well as understand that everyone else who seems not to follow in the way we feel they should, is on their own journey and we need to accept that because clearly accusing, blaming, putting guilt etc..is not working! Moshiach Now!
iz
to #21:
Bulls eye
L.A. Morah
to not vain i totally see your point about some people needing to go on their own journey.the problem is that in our time their journey is so in your face by so many that it really has an influence on others,especially younger people.what’s the answer?
No Taliban, Thanks!
L.A. Morah, 57 & 58:
In short: Mind your own business.
It’s not arrogant of me to not be paranoid about how others view me because what I often find with this immature community is that you can’t please everybody. It’s just not how life should be, in fear of what others think.
I walk down Eastern Parkway and see girls/women eyeing each other in a negative way, judging, gossiping and it’s disgusting.
If you’re weak-minded enough to be so easily influenced by a magazine or others lack of tznius, then you’d better stick your head back in the Torah.
I actually DO wear long skirts but I think it’s wrong to judge someone else for not doing so. Why? Maybe their clothes are at the dry cleaner, maybe they can’t afford some things (really, $50 for a resale skirt on Kingston? What a joke.). Still, it’s none of your business. Someone might dress immodestly but be a decent person and it isn’t OK to judge them negatively. If you don’t like what they wear, then don’t wear it! There are bigger problems in this world.
Get off your high horse, live and let live.