Shiur in Inyonai Geualh Umoshiach with R. Yoel Kahan
The weekly Shiur in Inyonai Geualh Umoshiach took place yesterday, Monday evening the Shiur was delivered by R. Yoel Kahan. For the first time since the Shiurs inception it was forced to take place in the Zal upstairs 770.
More pictures in the Extended Article!
Yashor Koach!
Whenever something happens we have the choice to do something constructive as a result – this is a wonderful portrayal of taking an incident and ensuring that it be turned around and something constructive come as a result. I am sure the Rebbe is proud of all the people that make the effort to attend the Inyonai Moshiah U’Geulah Shuir – and who spend their time doing what the Rebbe asked. Yashor Koach, to all who organized and attend.
WhyCan-tWeAllJustGetalong?
Why cant we have “acdush”, Why didn’t they make it downstairs? why are they always making fights? ;)
So what if they make it downstairs and get some Shforrim and Bentches throwen on them, if they except it with love it will be all good. ;)
Anonymous
http://www.shturem.net/inde…
A day after the “awakening kinus” in 770, bochurim of the “kevutza” prepared to learn the weekly lesson in Likutei Sichos with the Chozer Reb Yoel Kahn downstairs in 770. When Reb Yoel arrived one of the bochurim started screaming: “Yoel Kahn get out of 770!”
Reb Yoel didn’t want that another fight should break out turned around, walked out and went upstairs with the bochrim who partcipate regular in this shiur following him to the smaller zal to learn the sicha.
It should be noted that this was done by an individual who is reportedly unstable. Most of the bochurim disclaimed themselves from his behavior. Some however expressed shock at some of the bochurim’s reaction who found the episode amusing.
P.S. Watch how I will become the one full of hate… not the people that are destroying our community and stuffing our Rebbe’s face in the Mud, day after day. It will be You or I that sit behind our computer screens protesting… we are the haters :( )
CHT
Anti, you were balanced in your comments this time around – it was ONE unstable odd individual who screamed. If I would be there, I would shut him up, even though I wear Yechi yarmulke.
la-la land (want to come along?)
“It should be noted that this was done by an individual who is reportedly unstable. Most of the bochurim disclaimed themselves from his behavior.”
Those that just stood by and let this happen are just as guilty (if not even more).
There is also a lot of clapping going on.
What are we coming too, when a “reportedly unstable” person can get up and do what he did, and nobody stops him. (The answer is that all the people running 770 until now are themselves “reportedly unstable”).
[I know, I know, I am full of hate. I should just sit aside and ignore the facts. I should instead Preach “Achdush” or say that’s it’s both sides (ye, maybe that will work).
hello im i the only one that cares
why can a 20 year old kid yell at r` yoel kahan and nobody do some thing about it were is the hanhala first thes guys throw seforim at shluchim now this what is going on why cant WE do somthing i know this is the best thing to say but all i wana do is just smack that kid in the face
YS
Wonderful! Fantastic! A big yasher koach to all who participated in any learning, regardless whatever the subject matter may be!
May you all go from strength to strength!
Maybe it would be another good idea for people to learn the halochos of theft and beating another person, etc. While you’re at it.
David
I was there, and they were actually clapping to drown out his screaming – NOT in support of him.
You should have seen the anger in his eyes. If he would have replaced his hat with an arab turban he could have fit right into the middle of Gaza.
David
To: hello im i the only one that cares
“why can a 20 year old kid yell at r` yoel kahan and nobody do some thing about it were is the hanhala first thes guys throw seforim at shluchim now this what is going on why cant WE do somthing i know this is the best thing to say but all i wana do is just smack that kid in the face”
It’s very simple. Because people are SCARED FOR THEIR LIFE. You don’t understand what your dealing with here. If you lift a hand at someone like this you will have 50 hungry creatures attacking you at once. You will most probably end up in hospital, severely paralyzed for the rest of your life.
Hashem yeracaim olaynuu
R . lappakovsky is reponsable he lets thease idioten in to this country,he is using them to get back at agug who does
not want to talk about moshiac..
if a few tzfatim were thron out of the yeshiva ..u will see a change
concerned
without sounnding crazy or dangerous, I think the bochur who was extremly chutzpidik to reb yoel, shoud be beaten badly, by the normal bochrim.and that will teach the tzfaty terrorists that they have no place in lubavitch!
gershon
David,
You hit it on the head!! People are scared.
Let me put it this way:
1) If someone were to put up signs all over CH saying the Rebbe is Moshiach and always has been, etc., there would be absolutely no response.
2) If someone were to put up signs all over CH saying that the Rebbe was never Moshiach and this stuff is nonsense, his life and property would be in danger. I am not exxagerating.
People blame Satmar rabbonim for not taking control of the hooligans that cut Rabbi Korf’s beard 20+ years ago. People faulted them because they were afraid for their lives.
Guess what, folks? We have the same thing here. It seems that we are powerless to act against this type of person, unless someone has an answer I can’t see!
Kol HaKavod to CH.info!
I am extremely impressed by this website’s judgement of how to post the shiur in a way that would give the Rebbe nachas. I just don’t understand why the 2nd/3rd post had to bring up loshon hara – it accomplishes nothing positive at all.
NotAfraid
Driving down Kingston ave. (Kingston btw president st and union), I see one of these Tzvhatim ripping down a sign for an Aguch Farbrengen. (being single at the time). I went around the block to 1414, as I pull up, I see him ripping down another sign on that corner.
I got out of my car, went over to him.
NotAfraid: What are you doing? (In Hebrew)
BadBocher: what business is it of yours?
NotAfraid: I worked very hard to put up these signs, and I don’t like seeing it being ripped down!
BadBocher: Did you get paid?
NotAfraid: Yes, I did.
BadBocher: So you did your job, what do you care?
NotAfraid: B/C I just do, I don’t want to see you take down another or Else.
BadBocher: Who are you?
NotAfraid: I am someone that likes democracy, I don’t rip down your signs, you won’t rip down ours. But if you don’t want to live in a democratic way, then the stronger will win and let me tell you there will be no mercy.
He got the point pretty clear, those signs were up for a long time (even on the corner of 1414 it self).
My point is, that they are a bunch of little kids (following orders, of course), If just challenged they are afraid and will back off. We most stand up to them!
If you Run away from a dog it will chase you, if you turn around and face it, well it will run.
Kop Doctor
To “Kol HaKavod to CH.info!”:
You wrote -“I just don’t understand why the 2nd/3rd post had to bring up loshon hara”,
well, if you rear again the article you will see it states: “For the first time since the Shiurs inception it was forced to take place in the Zal upstairs 770.”
and do you know why it was forced upstairs?
Because the retards are running the asylum.
to: kol hakavod ch.info
so youre one of those that doesnt understand that most people (including you!) dont know whats flying and the more openly you speak about it the quiqer (if ever) youll get progress with this mess lubavitch has today..
enough being naive, face the facts, swallow youre hatred against shemtov and co. and support them in any way possible, theyre the only ones that have a chance of doing something,
Crown heights resident.
Mendy in Midwest
1) yechi!
2) yechi harav yoel!
3) what a meshuganer – the tzfati – if you can’t control yourself go home!!
this is harav yoel kahn the rebbe’s chozer for 40+ years!
he “forgot” more chasidus then you have learned your whole life – @120 kah
4) yechi reb yoel – for turnig around & going up stairs
5)yechi!
Milhouse
David, give me a break, “they were clapping to drown out his screaming”. Since when does anyone clap at something he doesn’t like? The clapping looks like it started when R Yoel left; they were applauding his leaving. Chutzpenyaks.
David
Kol HaKavod to CH.info!,
Welcome to the real world. Some of us are living in this hell, aka Crazy Tzfat Mishechistim. If you wish to ignore it and bury your head in the sand, then be my guest. But for the rest of us we need a forum to express it.
HEAVEN HELP US.
SOME OF THESE COMMENTS ABOVE SIMPLY REEK WITH SUCH VENOM FOR YOUR FELLOW JEWS. I DON’T GIVE A HOOT IF THEY ARE ISRAELI’S (AS YOU CALL THEM IN A NEGATIVE WAY “TZFATIM”) OR WHATEVER. IT’S QUITE OBVIOUS THAT THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY AS THE COMMENTS ABOVE PROVE. JUST AS IN THE KINUS INCIDENT T H E R E W E R E T W O S I D E S T O T H A T S T O R Y AS WELL. AND AS FAR AS DAVID’S ARGUEMENT OF BEING AFRAID, SORRY BUT THAT DOESN’T WASH WITH ME. THAT IS JUST A COP OUT EXCUSE SO THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE HATING THESE POOR MISGUIDED BOCHURIM. I AM A WOMAN WHO WITNESSED AN ISRAELI BOCHUR BERATE Y. KRINSKY ON HIS WAY TO 770 ONE SHABBOS MORNING, AND THOUGH I COULD NOT HEAR WHAT HE SAID I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE FACT THAT KRINSKY JUST KEPT WALKING WITHOUT ANY RESPONSE THAT IT HAD TO BE NEGATIVE COMMENTS. I MADE A MENTAL NOTE OF WHO THIS BOCHUR WAS AND WHEN I SAW HIM EXIT 770 SEVERAL DAYS LATER I APPROACHED HIM AND TOLD HIM THAT WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG, IT IS NOT HIS PLACE TO GET INVOLVED IN THESE THINGS ETC. TO WHICH HIS RESPONSE WAS NOT TO BEAT ME NOR TO CURSE ME BUT TO TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT HE WAS IN FACT STANDING UP FOR THE REBBE’S HONOR. MY RESPONSE WAS TO TELL HIM THAT WHATEVER KRINSKY DID IS BETWEEN HIM, THE REBBE AND THE AIBESHTER AND BY HIS ACTION HE IS STOOPING TO AN EVEN LOWER LEVEL. HIS MISSION HERE IS TO LEARN AND BRING A CHAYOS TO 770. I COULD TELL HE WASN’T TOO HAPPY WITH MY SPEECH BUT HE ALSO KNEW I WAS NOT SAYING IT OUT OF HATRED TOWARDS HIM AND THEREFORE REACTED LIKE ANY NORMAL PERSON WOULD. LET’S STOP LABELING THEM AND DESPISING THEM AND CONCENTRATE ON TEACHING THEM THE PROPER WAY TO BEHAVE. THEY CAN BE TAUGHT. IF THEIR MASHPIIM AREN’T DOING IT THEN WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DO IT OURSELVES. HOW ABOUT EACH ONE OF US INVITING ONE OF THEM FOR A MEAL OR TWO ON SHABBOS WHERE WE CAN TALK TO THEM LIKE MENTSHEN AND EXPLAIN WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO THEIR OWN IMAGES ETC. AS THE OLD SAYING GOES, “YOU GET MORE WITH HONEY THAN WITH VINIGAR” IF EVEN ONE OR TWO PEOPLE PICK UP ON THIS SUGGESTION, THIS MEGILLAH WILL HAVE BEEN WORTH WRITING. AND IF MORE THEN WOW! WHAT A DIFFERENCE WE ARE BOUND TO SEE IN THE ENTIRE ATTITUDE IN 770. IT’S BOUND TO HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT. WHO KNOWS PERHAPS THAT WILL BE THE CLINCHER TO BRING MOSHIACH. LET’S GO FOR IT.
info
the bocher who was screaming is a ilegal who dasn’t have a visa and the tzfatim suppurted him