Donors Thwart Drizin’s Attempt to Manipulate Guests
As reported previously on CrownHeights.info, in response to Eshel’s constant harassment and manipulation of Bochurim who don’t tow the meshichist line over the past several years, the Vaad Talmidei Hatmimim Ha’olami has taken upon itself to provide for all the Tishrei guests’ needs with dignity and without strings attached.
They received further validation earlier this month when Rabbi Y.Y. Yeruslavsky, whose father was the head of all Hachnosas Orchim activities under the Rebbe, gave over the mantle of leadership of his father’s organization to the Vaad.
The response has been overwhelming; anyone can witness the crowds of Bochurim flocking to events and programs orchestrated by the Vaad. The attendance of these events eclipses the paltry few still showing up at those of Eshel.
This giant shift of influence away from Eshel has caused panic to set in among those behind the organization, who devised a cruel scheme to try and compel unassuming guests to adhere to their program.
A wealthy Crown Heights resident named S.B. Drizin has been a long-time supporter of both Eshel, as well as the bochurim themselves in the form of subsidized airline tickets, coats for the winter and suits and hats when Pesach comes around.
Due to pressure from Eshel’s leaders, Mr. Drizin put out a statement that any Bochur who deviates from Eshel’s program (i.e. any Bochur who goes to the Ohel, or is caught eating at their kitchen, attending a shiur by Reb Yoel etc.) will not get any support for clothing, food or travel. This put many needy Bochurim in a tough position, as they had come to rely upon these generous amenities from the Gvir.
The solution, however, did not come long after the problem. As word got out of Mr. Drizin’s attempt to use his money to manipulate bocurim’s religious behavior, a slew of Lubavitcher Gvirim from all over the world – led by Avremel Lokshin – inundated the Vaad with pledges to replace all funding lost due to affiliation with the Vaad, and more.
“A Bochur should be free to attend the Shiurim, Farbrengens and programs of whichever organization he chooses, without having to worry about financial repercussions,” said one such Gvir in an interview with CrownHeights.info. “One doesn’t deserve to lose food or clothing based on his beliefs and the Derech he chooses to follow.
Having lost their last remaining bit of leverage, the fellows at Eshel might have to go back to stealing mattresses.
a time for teshuvah.
Your hate is so thick that this is what you are occupying yourself with erev Yom Kippur?There’s still time for you to take this piece of writing down before it goes on your “record.” Everybody is at fault in a galus world. We are just people… to be pitied, helped, given the benefit of the doubt, but not slandered and libeled with hatred. There is always another side of every disagreement. Try to find it here.
confused
keep these bochurim in israel and take all this money from both sides and put it towards our schools
what a difference it will really make
CHLEAKS.COM
As one Bocher from the Vaad organizers told me..
“Now we will get Borsalinos”
What the thugs and bullies at Eshel-Mendel Hendel accomplished ..
They Dropped their biggest bomb and Nothing happened, nothing exploded. Now we will all see that we can survive without Drizins money. There is always someone else ready to do the right thing.
If a fund can be organized for the Vaad, I would love to contribute.
let-s be real chassidim
kinderlach,s’iz asseress yimei teshuva-better everyone should stay home and daaven in their local shtiebel than bring about such negative actions and reactions. we are all the aibershter’s kinder and the Rebbe’s kinder and every parent’s greatest wish is that our children should all love each other and be there for each other.
chassidim zeinen ein mishpocho.
let’s leave this pettiness in the old year,and have real ahavas yisroel ,
probably a big help would be if our social media would not report this and let it just go.gmar chasima tova lshana toiva umisuko.
Drizin who?
Who is this SB Drizin?
I am yet to hear someone in Crown Height proclaim, “I want to be a Ba’al Chesed like S.B. Drizin”.
Mendel Hendel Must go
We all know what a terrorist Mendy Hendel is. He is now working full speed to destroy Horav Osdoba Shlita. He is using Yehsya Braun as his puppet. Shat a terrible scene it was on Rosh hashana to deny Rabbi Osdoba his maftir and being the Baal Makrey.
Shame of Hendel and his cronies for increasing the war in the name of peace.
Much hatzlacha to Avremel Lokshin and his chevra. Mendy Hendel is out for himself.
bocher
Keep ur money drizin!
to #5
so true! who is sbd? indeed his $ means nil to me and many others – it buys nothing – u can’t buy kovud with that kind of actions.
Many know this already for many years – let his leckers continue to leck!
Avremel and others kol hakavod for helping out.
Shame on all the menulvals who instigate and toe the dying yellow line – and for the ones that state its tishrei and all that jazz – go tell it to the holier than thous that blew the cracked shofar in 770 – shame on so many of you – BH for the many other shtiebels and thousands of self assuming kind and caring chabadniks in CH
LI HAKASEF VELI HAZOHOV
as we say every rosh chodesh AL TIVTECHU BINDIVIM ….
all money belong to GOD he deposits it in diffrent accounts for distribution if this poor man cant make the right decisions
other rich people on crown st can do it
Yossi A
STOP ALREADY
We are standing i in the days B4 Yom Kippur stop with the rechilus!!!!!!!!!
I don’t carre which side you happen to be on. These thypes of articles NEVER has & NEVER WILL bring nachas to the Rebbe
SHAME ON ALL THE BAAL MACHLOKES
disappointed
Is drizin so foolish & Gullible? R”L We don’t need him or other trouble makers! Isn’t what Happened On Rosh Hashanah message enough??????? Iam a meshichist as are many of my acquaintances & friends please explain to me why going to the Ohel is bad? to say that the Rebbe is still alive & therefore there is nothing to go for is wrong The Rebbe said the Friedike Rebbe is alive on many occassions yet The Rebbe went to the Ohel called it a Makom Kadosh & told others to go so why not?? it is not a Stirah & by the Way Zalman Lipsker should be removed as Gabbai for his actions & Let”s get this straight Braun is not A Rov Does not have Smicha at all & has clearly shown he is not qualified to be anything more then a dog catcher! In his own words one is not allowed to learn anything from him( except how not to behave )
It works, I-m telling you!
I tell you, quit whinning and turn them over to the Court of Gd and He will take care of it!!!! It will not be pretty but it will be very effective.
When Gd gets done, they will have absolutely no choice but to do right. It says, when you have to take them to court to do right, then they should pay the maximum since they are unable to do right on their own.
Can you see the day when this man’s millions become one dollars?
Gd does not play!
Issac
you write: Mr. Drizin put out a statement that any Bochur who deviates from Eshel’s program (i.e. any Bochur who goes to the Ohel, or is caught eating at their kitchen, attending a shiur by Reb Yoel etc.)
this is a big lie. he never said this.
Simcha
Good let them put their money where their mouth is. Eshel can find other uses for the funds. Win/win.
wasted opportunity
Reb SBD has so much $ it’s a shame he doesn’t appropriate his funds to non terror related charities like Benjamins Kalla org, Chevra simchas shabbos v’yomtov, OT, Beis Rivka and Merkos related charities. Sadly he gives all money if it’s funneled through organizations that suit his anti Chabad leadership agenda.
:(
May he be inspired this year to cast away his ties to Hendel and all terror related organizations.
It may benefit some to watch this clip..
http://www.chabad.org/there…
Achdus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One Day, One People
At the very beginning of Yom Kippur, before Kol Nidrei, we declare: “With the sanction of the Omnipresent, and with the sanction of the congregation, by authority of the Heavenly Court, and by authority of the earthly court, we hereby grant permission to pray with those who have transgressed.” All agree that on this day, there are no differences between Jews; they all stand united as one in the presence of G-d.
Why must we start this holiest day of the year by mentioning the sinners? Each of the Jewish festivals has a particular theme that is the emphasis of the day. One of Yom Kippur’s themes is Jewish unity.
When rabbis deliver their sermons on the Shabbos before Yom Kippur, Shabbos Shuvah, it would be most appropriate to include the theme of Jewish unity – not only to “love your fellow,” and not only to “love your fellow as yourself,” but to unite together as one soul. And this unity will also result in the entire Jewish people together receiving all G-d’s blessings, beginning with the verdict for a good and sweet year, with only revealed good.
Mr. Drizin please diavow that statement
Mr. Drizin,
Is this what you want to be remembered for? As a bully who used his money to get people to do what Hendel wants.
I do not think that when you gave money all the years to the bochrim this is what you had in mind. However, with this statement that is how it will be perceived and that is how you will be remembered. Kepp your tzedaka pure. Please.
C.H. Shomrim Six
Attention #1: The self righteous one
Three years ago about this time period (between Yom Tov) we, the Shomrim Six started to receive plea deals.
It was in this time period that we realized that this was the real deal and that the Mossrim were going to take this Mesira/Blood libel all the way.
It was in this time period, where I, my father and many other started pleading and begging many in the Crown Heights community to intervene to stop six Jews of possibility going to prison for 15 plus years.
Amongst those were approached were S.B. Drizin (remember this Drizin “gives the Meshichistim millions”). Drizin simply responded that he can not do anything.
This is a lie, had drizin made one phone call, just one call to Mendel Hendel and the case would have dropped in an instance. He didn’t make that call.
Take your holier then now B.S, wipe and flush!
to EDITOR of CH info
its a great article, BUT the fact that you make it sound as if THEY don’t have anyone coming to their events, makes the article cheap, as we all know they have crowds. obviously that does NOT mean that the truth lies there – where the crowds are.
yossel
who is sb drizin?
a man who with the help of the rebbe’s brochos made hundreds of millions, but did he give the rebbe money? no.
why? he was upset at the rebbe. the rebbe instructed his father the mashpia reb avrohom mayor to be a mashpia in lud, but he did not not like it there and moved to crown heights, for decades the rebbe ignored his letters, lechaim’s etc.
so the son was upset and did not give tzedaka
only after 3 tammuz, did he join the fight against merkaz & aguch in the weinstock will, even saying in court that the rebbe was not the ultimate decision maker in lubavitch!!
and he only gives tzedaka to ppl who fight merkaz & aguch, such as mushrooms who have their own kinus and eshel, which is the biggest scam lubavitch has seen!
they built a building which is a hotel, and mendy hendel is running an entire org from this money!
then drizing says that he never uses his money for politics, what a joke!
the good thing out of this whole story is that eshel & co must be under pressure, realizing that they are losing the bochurim, so they threaten with money, and bh our dear lubavitcher bochurim know better, and iyh we will soon see the ultimate downfall of eshel & co
ari
I could imagine that as it usually goes with old men who are not around that much and are not aware of the current situation and the terrorism etc, i assume that Reb Sholom Ber’s decision was not an objective one in any way, but rather those surrounding him convinced him that the Va’ad is there with only evil intentions of machlokes that was not provoked in any way by the holy leaders of Eshel… so i wouldn’t blame him that much, that’s the way old men are, people who don’t realize that they are just puppets in the hands of those around them Who are taking advantage of them… And then there are the young people with high positions in the community who are actually very willing puppets in the hands of their above mentioned friends….
unbelievable
If this is true it is very, very sad that someone who is a millionaire uses his money as a threat. I find it hard to believe, I don’t know him, I never met him but I can’t believe anyone could stoop so low. It must be rumor. I know there’s so much fighting but to deprive people of basics because they don’t hold your views can’t be true. That’s blackmail. After 120 what will he say to G-d?
the real story
Drizen gives EVERYONE!
He gives Avremel Shemtov 1 Million every year for bais rivkah and for camp.
Tishrai and hachnosos orchim is SBD baby he is just looking to get all the credit this is not a political move at all. If SBD would be such a Mishachist he wouldn’t let his son-in-law Mendel Schneerson be the chazen in the Rebbe’s room.
HE WANTS ALL THE KAVOD for himself. YES Mendy Hendel gives him the kovid that he is looking for, He truly knows how to do it.If Krinsky would give the same kovid than HE would get more money.
AS SIMPLE AS THAT……
show me the money
the article states mr. drizin “put out a statement that any bochur who deviates…” yada yada. so where’s the statement? i think this is all bubbameisses
TO#11
to #11 you are so correct!!!!!
CHLEAKS.COM
To #1 “The self righteous one”
I just went to the other web-site which promotes “the other side of the story” and I didn’t find a similar comment there (as you wrote here).
You are a faker and a phony, you want criticize the actual guilty party, who has taken action against one group, but you will criticize a web-site which is just reporting the facts.
You are from the War Criminals Of Crown Heights.
http://whoisshmira.wordpres…
One Phone Call To Save Six Jews
After much investigating over these past few years especially since after the Shomrim Six blood libel, I have concluded that the Mesira could have ended with ONE SIMPLE PHONE CALL.
There are four people in Crown Heights who could have made that ONE PHONE CALL and stopped a vicious blood libel on six of our brothers, a blood libel that could have landed them in jail for over fifteen years if G-d forbid a random jury of 12 strangers would have found them guilty, that ONE PHONE CALL was NEVER MADE.
Those four people were approached to help, they either claimed they can’t do anything or they laughed it off. Those that could have done something and chose not to, are guilty of “Do not stand idly by the blood of your neighbor/brother.”.
ONE PHONE CALL, THAT’S IT IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN, JUST ONE PHONE CALL!
Can You Guess Who the Four Are? Two of them are not on above list – Hint: they give Mendel Hendel lot’s of money [to clean/launder for them].
Whenever a person can save another person’s life but fails to do so, he transgresses a negative commandment, as Leviticus 19:16 states: “Do not stand idly by the blood of your neighbor/brother.” Similarly, [this commandment applies] when a person sees a colleague drowning at sea or being attacked by robbers or a wild animal, and he can save him himself or can hire others to save him and does not. Similarly, [it applies] when he hears [others] conspiring to harm a colleague or planning a snare for him, and he does not inform him and notify him [of the danger]. And similarly this is true if he knows of others scheming to harm a friend and can appease the conspirator and prevent him from carrying out the plot and does not, and all things in this vein, the one who does these things transgresses the commandment of “Do not stand idly by the blood of your neighbor/brother.” (Rambam, Laws of the Murderer and Protecting Life 1:14)
accuracy leads to being taken seriously
The expression is “toe the line” not “tow the line”
Report whole accurate truth or nothing
Why do you feel the need to write such articles? Does this help anyone? No. Do we need to read lashon hara? No. And, please, check your sources before you bad mouth people. People who help others, and yes, many institutions in Crown Heights shouldn’t be misquoted, just to attract readers to your website. We are not interested in being privy to your fantasy reporting. It is not right to be ‘motzie shem ra’ and misquote someone who helps many. Please give us accurate news and stop with the rabble rousing annoying articles that do no good. Personally, I would write things that promote positive behavior only – not the reverse, chas v’sholom. Use the world-wide web medium for its true purpose.
Thank you and gmar chasima tova to everyone.
We all want Moshiach now!
oy
Yossel, 21 – SB Drizin has given money to the Rebbe and to the Rebbe’s institutions, and continues to give – NOT for the kavod, and he is a true chossid of the Rebbe.
Go write a maamer that you chazered. We would much rather read that.
Thank you
Highland Park
To # 21 Mr. Drizin May he live and be well till 180, can do as he pleases with HIS money, He doesn’t owe anyone any kind of excuse as to how he chooses to distribute what G-D entrusted him with. Unlike the 2 other big real estate people in Crown Heights, he didn’t make his deals on the backs of the people in the community. i’m sure It was “ehrlich fardint” The rebbe never said about him at a farbrengen “az ehr shteit duh und lacht mier in ponim”. Personally the Hendel thing is not my fight, but If Mr. Drizin (kenst em upgebben ah bissel kovod he is older then you for one thing) wants give his money to Hendel and not you then that is his business, nobody is telling you where to give your “ma’aser”
PS.. By the way I was just wondering how many kids did you pay to go to camp this summer?
Anon
To 24 if he give a million a year to bais rifka why dosent he just give it to the morahs
To 31
Funny how you spin things.
He actually owned building in CH and kept Jews out.
Also, I am just wondering why doesn’t he grow a beard now that he older.
There were plenty of people who didn’t have beards that grew them when they got older like Motel Rivkin, chaikel Chanin, Levi Itche Shapiro and more. Why doesn’t he care enough to grow a beard so that the young generation can remember him as a chosid.
tired of the negativity and lies
Reb SB drizin DOES give money to Dvora benjamin
Reb SB drizin DOES give money to Bais Rivka, who do u think just paid the teachers, after they weren’t paid for FIVE and a half MONTHS??????
Reb SB drizin said nothing of the sort u claim he said.
i am embarassed at the way you report things
i am embarassed at the way you are a mecharcher riv.
#32
well said thank you
thank you
“I want to be a Ba’al Chesed like S.B. Drizin”. Yes, with the Rebbe’s brochos , he worked hard and earned his money. He remains an emeser chossid and loves the Rebbe. He helps many people and moisdos B’H. May he have arichus yomim with gezunt, parnassa and nachas.
(Now, please leave him alone).
CHLEAKS.COM
To #32
I agree with you 100% in regards to what Drizin can do with his money, but you see my friend, it is your friend Drizin who thinks because he gives out money that G-d entrusted to him, that he could now dictate what other should or shouldn’t do.
And BTW, Drizin, Sperlin and a few others, are making good money off the crown heights community.
As for “the 2 other big real estate people in Crown Heights”, if your not going to name them, then shut up. Coward!!!
Some of us like to deal with facts!
confused
I’m confused.
What can be wrong that someone else is also doing hachnosos orchim?
What can possibly bother him that he is not the only one helping guests?
I actually feel bad for him, this probably has very little to do with him and a lot to do with what he is being fed by opportunist sickos who are taking advantage of an older man.
Either way, he is most definitely welcome to do as he wishes with his money.
He should not be so welcome to tell others what to do with theirs.
Gebentcht yohr to all.
Yankel
to Highland Park:
nobody is telling SBD where to give his money,they are just pointing out his threat to those bochorim that don`t go to Hendels place.
But SBD does tell people what to do with their money, 1- he called
Lokshin and told him not to give money to (the new) Hachnoshas Orchim.
2-During the big Din Torah with the rabbonim, while he supported the Schwei- Hendel faction, he called YP and told him not to support Rabbi Osdoba.
It is a known fact that he does not like to give money to the Rebbes Shluchim. (except for some of his friends)
Time to see the light
You are all so wrong. Drizin is a Tzaddik. He does so many good thing behind the scenes with his money. anonymously. Hashem should bless him and his family with all good.
Anonymous
Don’t anyone dare forget that what S.B. Drizin is giving to Eshel is nothing less than absolute Tzedakah. He supports Eshel and funds bochurim who are part of this program, if bochurim want to join another organization that’s absolutely fine but they can’t expect to be getting benefits from a program that they left. To write an article about someone who has only helped this community is completely ridiculous. Next time think what you’ve done to help other before you downplay what someone else has done. Ksiva Vachasima Tova!
Even I got money from him
As much money one has, they are not G-d. If someone is unhappy because they didn’t get money from SBD, Remember, He is limited. And gives to whom he wants to give, and he has that right. He did however put out millions, and many have benifited one way or other. If we need more money, Daven to Hashem not to a man. AS for the politics, why should he support a cause he doesn’t believe in.???????? Let those who believe in that cause give !!!!!!!!!!
CHLEAKS.COM
What a coincidence that after a 12 hours of this article going up, do we all of a sudden have comments (after comment- all the same theme) in support (justifying and excusing) Drizin actions.
Did Drizin send people to write comments?
Bottom line; Drizin has in the past and is in this case, using his money to dictate what other should or should not do.
The fact! Drizin may have done some or lots of good with his money BUT he has done lots of damage, Drizin has funded Machlokes and Mossrim. Drizins money is responsible for lots of Jewish blood shed!
to number 32
id take fisher over drizin any day.
:)
Wow, oh wow! It seems all the Braun-nosers all came crawling out of the woodwork in support of SBD as if we was just crowed the King Moshiach himself!
First, to those criticizing CHI you are all forgetting something fairly elementary… Do you know where King SBD announced that he will not be giving his money to those that go to the Ohel? Yes, on MHM [Mendel Hendels] and Brauns mouthpeice website. So why is this so shocking that CHI would come out and set the record straight and let everyone know that King SBD is trying to use his money to influence the opinion of the visiting guests?
Maybe it is because no one reads the other trash and when CHI comes out and lets EVERYONE know it gets the MHM supports scared and into a PANIC!
It seems that calling King SBD out for the first time has provoked a new reaction from people, look “he gave me money, so he is a saint” I understand your need to defend him, but remember, he is now picking and choosing that out of those he ALREADY supported – that he would only support those the MHM tells him. Even though he is just like you and needs the help.
It really isnt King SBD’s fault that Shagalov, Chein, Levin, Sandhause and Co. all sit around him and push their agendas on him. He is simply an impressionable old man who is being manipulated – and that is sad. He should not let himself be used.
SBD it is still the Aseres Yemei Teshuva, it is time for you to get over your hate of Merkos and all things connected to it and ‘return to the fold’ of Kalal Yisroel! It is not too late!
chabadnik
who is sb drizin?
a man who with the help of the rebbe’s brochos made hundreds of millions, but did he give the rebbe money? no.
why? he was upset at the rebbe. the rebbe instructed his father the mashpia reb avrohom mayor to be a mashpia in lud, but he did not not like it there and moved to crown heights, for decades the rebbe ignored his letters, lechaim’s etc.
so the son was upset and did not give tzedaka
only after 3 tammuz, did he join the fight against merkaz & aguch in the weinstock will, even saying in court that the rebbe was not the ultimate decision maker in lubavitch!!
and he only gives tzedaka to ppl who fight merkaz & aguch, such as mushrooms who have their own kinus and eshel, which is the biggest scam lubavitch has seen!
they built a building which is a hotel, and mendy hendel is running an entire org from this money!
then drizing says that he never uses his money for politics, what a joke!
the good thing out of this whole story is that eshel & co must be under pressure, realizing that they are losing the bochurim, so they threaten with money, and bh our dear lubavitcher bochurim know better, and iyh we will soon see the ultimate downfall of eshel & co
I hate politics
Thank G-d I live in Los Angeles
What is Tzedaka?
I never knew that Drizin has so many grandkids who love him so much. They even took the time to write a comment to defend him.
Ask some of his relatives whom he helps in their time of need what happens if they dare THINK different to his dictates. I know of one who was punished because he thinks independently and he didn’t get the needed help when he married off his children and he was in a desperate situation.
I also know of another individual whom Drizin promised to give him a loan but when he called a few days later Drizin told him in his typical Yiddish: “YOU I won’t give, you are destroying everything here”, and that persons crime was that he is not very supportive of Schwei & Hendel.
I also must exclude Levin from having a negative influence on Drizin, if anything he only tries to steer him the right way to the best of his ability. Levin IS a Tzadik.
There is an old Talmudic saying in Baba Kama that the Novi prayed about certain rich people who gave much charity that G-d should help that their charity money should go to the indecent poor collectors so that their donations won’t count as Tzedaka, Drizin definitely got that blessing.
Drizin can give as much as he wants, as long as he supports the Jiahd against the Rebbe’s Mosdos it remains terrorist money and is not considered Tzedaka.
to 21 yossel
It’s a big big rachmones on you to beshaat nefesh say with so much certainty that he did not give the Rebbe any money and the non sense reason for it. Did you screen every tzetl and letter that went into the Rebbe? Or maybe you are going to tell us that the Rebbe told you that? You are playing with fire on aseres yemey tshuvo! You not talking against SB Drizin or his Father Reb A. Mayor OBM you are lying in the name of the Rebbe! By the way it is public knowledge that he gave for the Machne Israel Development Fund and it is known that he gave the Rebbe big amount when he wasn’t yet a big gevir.
Stop
Nobody is telling anybody what to write and who to support. And, nobody is influencing anyone where to go. Like who you like, choose what you want to do.
But, do things that promote peace for all, not the opposite ch’vsh, and whoever is – quit adding salt to all our wounds. Stop doing/writing/telling us all this negative stuff. We aren’t interested!
We open up these websites for inspiration and we get this :-( with all the ‘great’ comments…
The only one you can change is oneself.
Gmar chasima toiva.
Zol shoin zein di Geulah, Moshiach zol shoin kumen!
just saying
by the way if anyone made there money on the backs of CH residents it was drizin.
it was drizin who opened a night club in 2 places (not one) in middle of crown heights, it was one of his clubs that for many years derstryed presidnt, carol, and crown street between troy and utica.
in adtion i dont think its fair to bring his father into this, as i dont think its fair to take a coment that the rebbe said and put it on fisher, specficaly becuse the rebbe made it clear afterwards that it was NOT fisher he was talking about,
grapevine
I heard that drizin was willing to finance the final stages of remodeling 770 (784/788) on one condition: that rabbi krinsky not have an office there.
to #24
last i checked mendel schneerson is a grown man in his 50s whose behavior is not dictated by his father in law.
MachneMenachem.com
To #32 who wrote“
”PS.. By the way I was just wondering how many kids did you pay to go to camp this summer?”
What are you trying to imply here, that Drizin helped kids go to camp? if that’s what your impelling, then why not say it straight out and why not give details(after all you seem to be his spokesperson)?
I live in Crown Heights and I have kids going to Yeshiva and camp, I didn’t see anything about Drizin giving money to help with camp tuition, I don’t know anybody in my community who can say that Drizin helped him or because of Drizin he got a cut in his tuition, not one person, not friends, not people from Shul, nothing, nobody.
Besides, 15 years ago two brothers Mendel and Meir Hershkop got together with the mission to get everybody into camp. They got together with a few others and Baroch Hashem were successful.
In 1996, 12 fully loaded charter buses pulled away from Eastern Parkway heading towards Hershkops camp. Many children left behind were brought to camp afterwards.
In 1996 Machne Menachem located in Lackawaxen, PA held over 700 people (with campers and staff). That’s a small village.
It was the corrupt Cabal of the Crown Heights Jewish Community Council, Inc. and/or the Meshichist movement, in which S.B. Drizin has strongly supported all these years, that stole the camp away from it’s rightful owners and from the children of our community.
Today the camp is used as another money laundering machine for the corrupt cabal, with barely 150 campers (not all from Crown Heights). A place that can easily hold 700 bodies, now barely has 150 (?)
Let’s talk about camps…
CHLEAKS.COM
To #46
“First, to those criticizing CHI you are all forgetting something fairly elementary… Do you know where King SBD announced that he will not be giving his money to those that go to the Ohel? Yes, on MHM [Mendel Hendels] and Brauns mouthpeice website. So why is this so shocking that CHI would come out and set the record straight and let everyone know that King SBD is trying to use his money to influence the opinion of the visiting guests?
Maybe it is because no one reads the other trash and when CHI comes out and lets EVERYONE know it gets the MHM supports scared and into a PANIC!”
I don’t know who you are but I like you.
This morning as I was reading some of the comments that were written overnight (12 hours after the article was posted), I was thinking exactly what you just wrote above, word for word.
A very wise man who knows, suggested that Eli Slavin could be the individual writing the Pro-Drizin comments.
Lay off
I don’t know who you are, CHLEAKS.COM, but, I def don’t like you. And, I write my own comments.
There are 2 sides to each story and you are obviously hearing what you want to hear. And, you have the nerve to print your bubbeh maases, too.
Also, before anyone prints, (and not just ‘I heard, I saw, blah, blah blah…’), get your facts straight!
Seems like some people have nothing better to do with their lives than to bad mouth people and to write stupid comments.
Ira
To: # 55.
#32 Was not implying anything, he was stating a fact. When it came time to sending kids to day camp he helped out Oholei Torah, it’s no secret it was public knowledge.
With regards to the Hershkopf’s, I am sure they are fine people too. There is No 1 person that has the exclusive on doing good and helping people, Halevai there should more people like Hershkopf and Drizin and whoever else is able to help make the community a better place to live to step forward and help. Furthermore, I am pretty sure that Mr. Drizin doesn’t mind when other people in
the community are able to help out and take some of the burden off his plate.
Tzedakah
To #49: He who curses, is cursed. (r’l)
To #55: Ask the C.H. day camp directors, Oholei Menachem, for one: “The camp administration proudly says that this year the camp had the highest enrollment, by making sure every child who wanted to, attended camp this summer. This was accomplished mainly due to the Drizin family’s generosity.”
Ex NY-er
SB Drizin is a complex man who does much good but indeed is being manipulated by a cabal of gangsters.
However, his clubs, if he indeed ever opened such things, did not destroy “presidnt, carol, and crown street between troy and utica.”
Mayors Lindsay, Beame, Koch and Dinkins destroyed those blocks. That part of CH would have been gehennom with or without clubs until Giuliani came around.
to the drizin family
lets be real.
it is his money, he worked hard for it, and earned it, and didn’t take it from anyone. i happen to be an anti, and someone who would rather see drizin give some of his funds to other places.
but it should be known, the drizin helps all types of people on a personal level, i know other anti’s who drizin knows very well are anti’s and when it comes to personal needs, a mortgage, a chasunah etc, he always helps them and with nice amounts.
i know of pepole who are strugling and he is there for them as well.
we need to be careful to not destroy this persons mood because i assure you that your family or Friends have benefited from him.
so let’s stop being typical Crown Heighters. and give him a break.
NO WAY!
SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG! I am not a Lubavitche, but if I ever had interest in this group, reading this kind of stuff sure does turn me far away! My understanding is that Lubavitche and Chabad is a group of people who can show a light, can present ways to Hashem that are of the highest ideals. But what I read here today, and what I often read in other op-eds, in no way demonstrates any such thing. SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG! Is there no one who can filter through such a mess and inspire true Yiddishkeit? Is there a group of people who can facilitate this? If this continues, the end of Chabad or Lubavitch is not far away, at least in a positive way. Then what reputation will you have in the world? Someone(s) must step in soon!
Intimidation and Blackmail
Follow this link to view the original post by the other web-site:
http://1bigcholent.wordpres…
I agree with #46, CH.INFO gets the slack because people don’t go to the other site.
to shomirm 6 and the crew
with all the respect to what shomrim members do, i think that the problem with them is that they get involved (and sometimes physically) between “yiden” and we all know they do not like the israeli buchrim and will always stick up for the american and instigate a fight to put it on the news and humiliate them (i am not saying they are right) and i think this is the problem and this is why a lot of the community did not want to help then but for the future if you act the way you should (not sticking up for anybody just doing whats right. and the best if there is a dispute between 2 yiden dont get involved you are guarding us not enforcing law) you would be be on the good side of both sides of the crown heights community.
We have to do this right!
If all you ‘mouthpieces’ don’t like machloikes, why do you bother reading other websites and getting so involved in all this? Just do some good yourselves. Don’t add your own commentary to what people say and mean. Give people the benefit of the doubt and stop judging. Stop this pettiness. Trust Der Eibershter and do what the Rebbe really wants from us. Let’s bring Moshiach already!
Hashem...
after reading this article i expected all the comments saying how inappropriate it’s such an article on such days…
comments,maile,but to write such an ARTICLE???
full of hate,and derisement!
i have no words.
i’m seriously disgusted.
no other words.
disgusted.
H’,please forgive Your foolish children.
Shomrim Six
To #64
Pure propaganda!!!
Stop justifying and excusing mesira!!!!
Huh, imagine that!
Well, when man provides the clothing and shoes, it wears out and needs to be replaced yearly!
When Gd provides, it never wears out.
Imagine that!
Shomrim Six
To the the one who justifies and excuses Mesira, comment #46
What happened to the Shomrim Six was nothing less then a modern day blood libel.
Innocent Jewish blood was spilling on the Streets of Crown Heights and S.B. Drizin had the power/ability to stop it could, he didn’t, he failed!!! There is no excused, there is no justifying.
Your argument is weak and lame!!!!
Those who justify Mesira are must probably Mossrim themselves!!!
just me
#47 said it correctly – as much as it hurts to hear – those are the facts – how sad!
They (SBD’s) think $ will buy kovud or whatever – it doesn’t – so many see right thru the BS – you can’t fake sorry behavior.
His behavior has been sour for decades!
I have no problem stating this even asheres yemei tsuvah – the man has done alot of bad things and has endangered many.
ALl b/c he hides behind buckets of money for pathethic causes and buys off a few almonos or needy families has absolutely no bearing to how much wrong he has caused to many others.
nunu!
Fisher is a Ganov
To 45
Drizin is spending money he earned, Fisher is a ganov spending money he stole from members in the community!
Grateful CH resident
I am not a relative. My family and countless individuals and mosdos were helped super generously by Rabbi S.B. Drizin and his family. I am very tempted not to jump in to these messy comments. However , to stand by idly is to see kind, generous ,wonderful people be maligned and shamed. My feeling is that we all live together in a small crowded community. It is not right to expect one excellent individual and, yes,he is blessed by Hashem with great wealth, to solve every problem here and all over.
The Drizin family do so much good beyond the scope of almost everyone here, and may they continue so under the leadership of their father and grandfather til Moshiach comes, Miyad, Mamosh. A Gut Yohr and Gmar Chasimah Tovah to all Clal Yisrael.
CHLEAKS.COM
To #71
http://acrownheightsstory.w…
Whats you side of the story? Details please!
Crown Heights Jewish community Council, Inc. has stolen millions upon millions from the community, this is a proven fact, where is your outrage?
Daughter
To 70 and others: Firstly, may you never be needy of “pathetic causes”…
You can have your feelings, opinions, etc., but why does one feel the need to express everything in a public forum, aseres yemei teshuva esp, and anytime for that matter? What good has this post and all the non-positive comments accomplished exactly? ‘It lets people now, yada yada yada.’ (Gets more readers… Just lost one) Know what? Why? It just adds fuel to the fire, G-d forbid, the fire of this bitter Golus which we are trying to extinguish, once and for all, for crying out loud!! Hashem is the provider of everything, not man. Enough of this! May Hashem forgive us all and hear our tefilos this Yom Kippur and bentch us all with a Gmar Chasima Tova. And I think the editors of CHI and all these news websites should take this to heart. Gut yomtov and gut yuhr.
stop leaking ;)
LeakyCH- I know which ‘side’ you’re on… ho hum. I like your
sources…, of course. Don’t you know that there are 2 sides to every tale? If you want to hear them, you will find them.
Glad that Rabbi Fischer was vindicated. May we all be – this Y.K.
Gmar tov and good luck in doing what the Rebbe really wants from you and us.
Ahavas Yisrael
Go-ds right hand man
The story is a taste of reality !
Genge/money/ moola has strings attached ! Fact !
After exodus/redemption the calendar and teamwork ie synchronization begins and the Torah is given after twenty six generations of birur !
The manna/money and mitzvot follow to prepare the children of Israel and go-d as banim atem lhashem Chaim etc. to conquer the land spoof Israel and fulfill the the blessings/deals go-d gave/made with the forefathers !
That’s what means nothing for nothing !
If Mr. S.B. Drizin let’s you know some strings all the needy have free choice and can choose to refuse a contribution/donation and say no thanks mister or accept and say thank you very much, I feel like a king of Brooklyn yet I know I ain’t ! Peace to all givers of enough money,goods and 411 !
Go-ds right hand man
The story is a taste of reality !
Genge/money/ moola has strings attached ! Fact !
After exodus/redemption the calendar and teamwork ie synchronization begins and the Torah is given after twenty six generations of birur !
The manna/money and mitzvot follow to prepare the children of Israel and go-d as banim atem lhashem Chaim etc. to conquer the land spoof Israel and fulfill the the blessings/deals go-d gave/made with the forefathers !
That’s what means nothing for nothing !
If Mr. S.B. Drizin let’s you know some strings all the needy have free choice and can choose to refuse a contribution/donation and say no thanks mister or accept and say thank you very much, I feel like a king of Brooklyn yet I know I ain’t ! Peace to all givers of enough money,goods and 411 !