BY DEMAND: Recording of the Shiur on Tznius – Now Online!
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Over 150 Anash were there when Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz, a renowned Mechanech from Morristown, NJ, addressed the topic “Tznius – What Can I Do?” on Wednesday, 5 Iyar. Covering issues pertaining to men, like “why is such an emphasis placed on modesty?” and “when should I say something?”, the shiur was a great success.
CDs of the Shiur are being sold in 770 (center table) and Empire Shtibel from Tuesday morning to Wednesday evening of Parshas Behar-B’Chukosai for $5.
Through the efforts of Mitvtza Tznius, the shiur is also available for purchase at Judaica World, House of Glatt, Crown Kosher Meat Market, JCM Gift Shop, Morkos Stam and See View Optical. The cost of the 2-disc set may vary by store.
TRENDY C.H. MOMMY
its nice to see such a SURGE of interest in “raising” the collective dignity of our “shcuna”
thanks for posting, and thanks to Rabbi Broud!
may the Rebbeh have much deserved Nachas from this new collective “wake-up” BH BH!
Rebono-SH”O shep-nachas! you see many simply did not know the importance!! and the BRACHOS they were denying themselves (me included)
when you give them a chance to learn, they sincerely accept!
much appreciated
thanks for the convenience,
i had no other way to participate!
Bais Yaakov grad+Friend of chabad
i listened to the entire Shmooze, and found it very interesting yet, it did NOT adress the BIG ELEPHANT in the room, why NOT teach the men, the psychological factors that fuel the “tznius-crises”
yes, as a student of psychology and an outsider to the lubavitch community, i have never encountered a happy well-adjusted frum mother who is driven to reveal more than Halacha allows,
any wife who is soo desperate for the wrong kind of attention that they will actually dress provocatively in a manner which attracts attention of an in appropriate kind, such a women is clearly in trouble!!
she is obviously suffering from self image issues, as well as peer-preasure and a loveless mariege R“L
No grown-up women, who is happy and well cherished by her husband has the craving to Publicly degrade herself and body by openly dressing for the lowest kind of attention,
not to mention the embarrassing statement she advertises to to the world: ”here goes a mother who is willing to compromise her families prosperity promised by our gedolim just to feed here desperately low self esteem,
1) Men must be formally tought how to make their wives feel cherrished and special
2) Women must be guided how to be more self aware of there inner motives and how best to find help and guidance,
3) Schools must crack down on bullies (teachers and students) who destroy self esteem and create life long self-image issues,
4) Fathers, you MUST spend lots of positive time with your daughters, to stave off male-attention-issues which R”L typically lead to irreversible life-long regret as teenagers…,
hopful Shlucha
ok so now that we know a lot more on the subject, will it translate into visible improvement
i sure hope so,
so i may start sending my mekurovos to visite c.h. once again, w/o the fear of turning them off, or worse vdal
Nice2C the public support!
nu nu!
whatever it takes to restore dignity and decorum to the Rebbe’s Shchuna!
distractions distractions
WHATS THE BOTTOM LINE OF ALL THE TALKING
WILL THOSE WHO SUFFER FROM SELF-ESTEEM ISSUES GET TREATED?
soo much droshos, but whats with the root cause?!
excusses and psychobabble
i cant believe this NEW generation of excuses!!
so now its NOT a weak jew loosing against the Y“H, its not a lack of Yiras H’
what is it? its self esteem issues! yay! soo now giving it a psychological label makes it somehow KOSHER?!
”i have self esteem issues!!” i hate my self soo i will dress like a z and i’ll feel better!!
SINCE WHEN DOES SELFESTTEEM-PROBLEMS = FREE PASS! TO TRASH YOURSELF AND DEGRADE YOUR COMMUNITY AND THE NAME OF THE REBBEH!???
EVEN IF ITS TRUE THAT YOU FEEL WORTHLESS AND UNLOVED, AND FEEL LIKE GARBAGE… THAT DOSENT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO DISGRACE CHABAD TO THE WORLD!!
1) GO GET COUNSELING!
2) DO WHATS RIGHT REGARDLESS OF YOUR ISSUES
3) SEE THE “SELF-IMAGE” ISSUE AS “ATZAS HAYETZER”!!
4) FINALLY REMEMBER THAT THE REBBEH PROMISSES GOODIES FOR MS”N FOR TZNIUS! = YOU”LL HAVE A HAPIER FUTURE!!
THE REBBEH NEVER SPOKE EMPTY WORDS!
thaks2 crownheights.info
my wife gained tremendously from listening to this recording!!
response to: TRENDY C.H. MOMMY
thanks for you comments, well taken! i thought i was alone!
i too VACILLATE back n forth, in my tznius, NOTHING SUPPER LOW, but borderline, and hate to know that i’ve been comprimising prosperity to my family! ouch!
att: ladies it takes a little bit more time and money to compensate for the cheap kind of attention,
its toatally cooller to be very stylish and modest in one! i feel really great that way! works for me, trey it for the sake of your children!
if you dont know what i’m referring to lookup the Promisses and threats in ZOHAR yikes!!
CONTENT WAS GOOD, PRESENTATION= NU NU!
a great listen,
not the best delivery
please make a front page link!!
to webby and the crew: please post link on page one for the benefit of ppl who i encouraged to listen, but dident find it easily!
THNKS TO C.H.INFO FOR A UPLIFTING PIECE!
marriege therapy
ppl who have such problems with male-attention etc, need to seek out a competent marriage counselor before its too late!
chasanim need training
lets face it ladies, we may be married to the best man in town, but love is NOT enough!! these kollel-leit need a good session or two about how to make their wives feel cherished etc
good intentions ain’t enough!! skills yes skills!
thanks
good listening!
give the girls some credit! please!
communication skills is very important for chasanim,
but a mature women should be able to grow together and help one another in HOW to treat each other
GREAT IDEA
training for chosons is very worthwhile!
how about training for kalas too! each side needs all the help it can get to make the shana rishona an easier adjustment, and a firmer foundation for life,
there is a lubavich-psychologist in toronto who sells a package for new couples, he calls the pacage “marriage insurance plan” or something like that, (Rabbi Kass)
keep it comming
yasha koach to yagdil torah and to this website
get a life
mind your own business please
why sooooo many men showed up to talk about girls?
hot topix
tznius is a money maker!
if you want to boost your websites hits, post Tznius or Mishichist anything it sells! Ratings = Cash
downloaader
good info to listen, how do i download it?? anyone please?
outraged! get off it!
i cant believe how self-ritious you all are!
you have no problems yourself! how dare you lecture me about self esteem issues! i bet you need some psyco-help yourself!
get a life and stop trying to fix the world, deal with your own problems first!
do whatvr u want, but know what u r doin
hey its america, you are free to do whatever you wish, in private or out in the public domain which we all share!
when you choose to dress in a provocative way in public,
in front of our husbands and children, (and the world)
you should at least do soo, with the full appreciation of the harm and pain you are imposing! on your family, onlookers, community and sheim-chabad!
degrading yourself is one thing!
depriving your family of the prosperity and blessings (listed in zohar) and
hurting soo many who care for the standards and dignity of our shared streets
bringing busha to the rebbe’s name and community
not to mention the collective punishment to klal yisroel for pritzus R“L
are you really that cruel? i dont think so! you simply know very little about the importance and affects of tznius and the negitive ripple affect on our children (who take tend things one step lower R”L
again do as you wish, but make an informed decission
NO SHOW but secretly listening on line
this shiur is a great idea, not so much because of those who need to show up will show up, but bec. it gives chizuk to those homes already on track, and people like my sister, who won’t show up but will secretly listen to the shiur online!!
never saw it comming!
such a surge of interest!
SELFSETEEM the problem behind the problm
to really solve this problem… spending the time when these girls are much younger…
Fathers spend lots of time (pleasant casual NOT lecturing time) with your daughters of all ages, the more time and attention you invest at ages 1,2,3,4,5,…17 etc the less self esteem-issues later on in life,
nebach for those girls who never really bonded with there father, they are left with a gapping whole in their heart, yearning for a male-father-figure and R“L end up with a life long problem called ”male-attention-issues“
i bet, 9 out of 10 women in c.h. who dress prust, are craving the lowest kind of attention, HY”R
if only the real root cause was understood, and addressed many of our daughters at risk would not be so vulnerable to these creepy street boys who take advantage of these girls, only to sooner or later dump them like worthless piece of trash, leaving these triked girls with long term scars and regrets!
chil pill
why the huge fuss?
uncomfortable fact!
stop clamming its ONLY women with self-esteem issues! or lacking the attention from their own husbands!
dident you hear of NOT SHAMMING ONE IN PUBLIC? does that mean anything to you??
A MAN??? WHY A MAN??
i’m 17yo and sorta on the fence (open-minded) u orginizers should also use some common sense!!
my friends and i would be much more receptive to a message of tznius+style if the presenter was a cool chasidish mom, who knows how to dress cute and halachakly kosher!!
just my 2 cents!
outsiders INVESTIGATED chabad!
most lubabs NEVER chose to be lubav. its true the ones who arrived to chabad on their own actually KNOW what our philosophy is far better than the average O.T. or ULY bochur!!
ATT: BOTH CAMPS
to the pro halacha camp:
teach chasanim how to prevent a “desperate house wife”
to the anti halacha camp:
know what your desperation is revealling to the public about you:
1) no yiras shomayim,
2) no self respect (not more than a chep-zoneh at least)
3) no consideration for the name of chabad -in the frum velt
4) no feelings 4the locals/visitors who’r devastated/hurt
5) no concern for the longterm good of you children (sicha)
6) no shame 2publicly, “faif-un” our rebbe’s bakasha-nafshi
7) no shame 2advertise your body parts 2another’s husbnd
8) no fear of causing averos of the worst kind to bochurim
9) no care about lowering the bar for COPYCATS who kids
10) no concern about the “klolos” from H’ to klal yisrol R”L
11) no shame 2advertise how little els u have of value insid
12) no sham to hurt our kids who take things 2a lower level
13) no shame to expose your peer-presure issuse
14) no shame 2 advertise that u feel ugly in respectful attire
15) no class/dignity for your family or frum jewish women
response to: chil pill
the steaks are high! thats why! think for one min. and youll realize long list of dangers and problems this “pritzus” is bringing, i’d rather leave it to your imagination than spelling it out RL a big percentage of young women in our community have a lot of problems, and problems (of THAT sort) brings more problems RL,
its nice to see the wake up call, and how popular the out cry has become, i knew it had to bottom out soon or ch”v who knows what it would take to shake things up hashem yirachem!
wrote: wrote: wrote: wrote:
so everyone is witting, is anyone proposing a practicle way to help the ladies with self-image insecurities? at the end that is the REAL starting point!
yay u trashed the girlz 4Dgradng themsel
stop looking at skin, follow the halacha for men, focus your eyes on the 4 Amos in front of your feet
good = gooder = goooooderness
each father mother husband and wife, each one do your part, things have a way of adding up!
i dont really suffer from such temptations anymore (sine i’m happily married B”H) i have a very openminded hubby who, totally on his own, seeks out guidance for good shalom bayis, it helps for everything not jusg happy wives, it improves your success in many other arias in life bc the principles are transferable, not to mention the brochos i see from sholom bayis,
soo dont wait around to be spoon fed how to be a better husband or wife etc, find a good friend/role-model who is a happy person… with a happy relationship, you’ll be happy you did,
btw the right books are also great
tanya
lest start lerning some tanya some isksfya and ishopcha lets braek this klipa ov untnion so moshiach cold come olrady go halacha camp go
self esteem
The tanya has some good edvice on self esteem Chaper 26 27 28 igaras hakodesh 12
To: tanya, WHAAAAAAAAAAT?
….go halacha camp go….?!!
is this really how you think, that ppl actually disregard halacha (anti halach-istm)
let me get this straight: now we have such yeridas hdoros, such simoney geula (chutzpa)
that there’s officially the “HALOCHISTIM” & “ANTIHALOCHISTIM”
live and let live
its very simple! all you “halacha thumping preachers” get a life and mind your own business!!!!!!!!!!!!
what i do doesnt concern you, so i dont tell you how to dress!
To Live And Let Live
Please let us live a real lfe of torah and halacheaand tznius try it you love it Tamy Ireye Ki Tov Hashem
ain chodush tachas hakol hevel
gekiet un ibergekiet un ibergekiet
anon
Partial answer:
The children of these people who dress like this should not be allowed in our schools. Period. Unfortunately, I know of a very much sought after school that has broken their policy when money was offered/bribed.
As soon as these people realize that money will not talk they will be forced to either move or change their clothing
To live and let live
To live and let live
Why don’t you go to the ohel and tell the Rebbe that.
I’ll daven for you if you post your name
AND YES WHAT YOU DO AFFECTS ALL OF US WHO ARE TRYING TO KEEP THE TORAH AND RAISE CHILDREN WITH YIRAS SHOMAYIM