PARIS, France [LAP] — A Hasidic super star was arrested for assaulting his wife and children at his home, in Montreuil near Paris, France.
Chasidic Superstar Arrested for Abuse
PARIS, France [LAP] — A Hasidic super star was arrested for assaulting his wife and children at his home, in Montreuil near Paris, France.
Y. C. Z., a Hasidic superstar, spent 20 hours in the National Police Station in Paris answering questions pertaining to the assault on N. D., the woman he married in 1999, and his children.
Y. C. Z., of Tunisian origin, lives in Montrueil near Paris. As a child he developed a love for singing and music. He has since produced two albums of Hasidic music.
In July of ‘09, his wife D., filed charges in the Supreme Court of Bobigny in Paris. In her deposition she writes how the superstar assaulted her with wire and how he […].
The plaintiff’s charges, originally written in French, reveal shocking details about Y. C. Z.’s character. It states: “He kept me imprisoned in the home while I was pregnant with my first daughter; he hit me with a cable wire and pushed me to the ground and against the wall.”
The horror of this story can be palpable when reading about the abuse to the children. “He is violent with my children; beating them with a belt and wire hanger, aiming for their arms and legs. On several occasions he will use one child’s head and bang it against the other child’s head, when they misbehave”
CHI Edit: According to the Shalom Task Force, an organization which deals with such issues, the problem of domestic violence in the orthodox Jewish community is more common then one would think, according to their statistics in the last 15 years the Task Force Hotline received thousands of calls for help.
“I can’t believe this. This is appalling! I am in shock!” said M. L., a friend of Y. C., whose shock turned to disgust.
It is hard to believe that such a man, who is ultra orthodox and considers himself a religious man, is capable of this kind of cruelty.
We asked to speak to the family of the wife, but they declined, stating that the matter is now in the hands of the police. Calls were made to Y. C. for comments but were not returned.
In the Jewish community, wife and children abuse is a real problem and rabbis try to shove it under the rug. In this case, the family of Mrs. Z. hired attorneys to present the case to the rabbis and the court.
“These crimes will not remain unpunished,” said Martin Fleur the attorney for the family. “He attacked his wife countless times, and abused the children until their blood was flowing. Justice will be served,” concluded Fleur.
The family of the wife says that they tried everything to bring about a solution; to assist Y. C.. Rabbis, doctors, therapists, friends intervened, and they even offered to help them out financially, but nothing helped. “He is ill and dangerous and nothing will help him,” said a friend of Dinah, who asked to remain anonymous.
France is known to have a slow legal system. In the USA the accuser would be arrested immediately, and put in jail. The hope is that the legal system won’t fail, yet again.
CHI Edit: If you know someone that is a victim of such abuse, the Shalom Task Force is one place you can turn to for help. You may call them anonymously at (888) 883-2323 or (718) 337-3700.
Crown Heights resident
this is a crazy story. whats his real name?
willi man
who is YCZ?
a shliach
This is the guy who sang in rfront of us at the Kinnus Hashluchim!
His name is Yoni Chlomo Zerbib.
I also heard that Rabbi David Cohen from Ohel gave a psak of “Rodef”.
this is unreal.
CH.info Thank you for reporting this story.
Yossi in CH
unfortunately, this is a widespread problem and the Rabbonim dont know how to handle this.
What happened to the Rabbonim in Paris? I understand that this is a Lubavitcher. Why cant they take care of their problems?
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HE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SING ANYMORE AT THE KINNUS
Sarah Leah
BS”D Kudos for this article. It heightens awareness, gives an address for those afflicted and victimized without the loshon hora, and keeping respect for people’s privacy. Kol Hakavod. I really respect this.
DAVID
who is this animal? who is YCZ?
WHY IS THE NAME MASKED?
Bassie from Belgium
As a women who know the girl I can only thank you for publishing this story.
I know of him and he is a animal.
Maybe now he will stop his abuse on his wife and the kids.
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his name is YSZ, however in french it would be YCZ, his stage name omits the Z…
& should be banned from singing at the kinnus!
makeovers
Guess what the moral of the story is, fellas?
You are not gonna like this…
Apart from having to be a mentch, you also have to raise your kids to be mentchlich, so that they do not turn out like this.
Obviously, the second depends on the first, which makes things all the more difficult… good luck!
someone
he looks looked like a nice man what happend
happy
a super star he sang like garbage.and for what he did someone should beat his head in a wall.
sheab
All kinnus singers should be screened for abusive behavior.
SHocked!!
i just dont believe it! its crazy that someone who sings nigunim and seems sooo eidel could be like this!! its such a shame!!! what should be done about his music? is it right or wrong to listen to it?
Miami
I truly hope that the community and government will give the best aid and counseling to these dear neshamas. What a sad and disgusting story.
People must speak out.
These things must stop!!
unfortunately these thing happen… and they have to stop, like now!! People!! If you know something say something!!
to .....wrote
he should be banned from any appearance not just the kinnus
concerned
I hope that rabbonim from CH do the same and make public cases like this
and this is going to help to prevent others potencial monsters to calm down before they raise their hands
Yoili
Did Avremi G. know? Did Moshe Kotlarsky Know?
How they hired this Behayma Gasa?
What a shame?
A shliach in France
Where is Moule Azimov? how come Levi Azimov protects this terrorist? Why is it that they hire him for their dinner and other events to sing? I am sure if this would have happened to their daughters he would be banned!
The establishment is corrupt.
poor girl!
s. s.
this story brought tears to my eyes. how horrible it is that so many men can get away with physically and emotionally abusing their wives and families! poor woman having been married to a monster for all of these years. i am glad to hear about this organization who helps the helpless. i wish this woman and her family the best of luck with a divorce and restraining order.
p.s. “happy”, banging his head against the wall would just teach others that it’s ok to hurt someone when you are upset. we do not want to create more monsters.
Not surprised at all
I am not at all shocked or surprised. Those of you who are…well…its a sad reality. This problem is very common in our communities too and its the stigma and ‘hushing up’of the problem that keeps women from speaking up and getting help. If you are a victim of abuse-there are so many of you- dont be embarrassed-you are not the problem and GET HELP. GET OUT. for the sake of your kids and yourself!
A women in tears
Why aren’t you mentioning his name? this is a Mitzva to publicize his name in order to prevent this from happening again.
We have to say ENOUGH!!!!
ENOUGH of you husbands who believe that you are higher than the law. ENOUGH of the pain and abuse some of you do to your wives.
And when you come to shul you present yourself as THE NICE and FUN guy like this peace of garbage YONI CHLOMO ZERBIB.
This has to stop.
Women, if you read this and this is your life, speak out!!!!
Raise your voice!!!
there are people who are willing to help.
You are not alone.
Thank you CH.INFO for publishing this story, you are saving lives.
A Women in Tears
TREAD WITH CARE! DANGER ZONE!!
To all distinguished readers,
Such an episode – if true, is just outright sickening. Period.Any and all explanations ban not add up to an excuse for such behavior. Period. Beware however, that there are two sides to every coin, and I am talking from experience in dealing with families in such unfortunate matters and issues. There have been cases where the female spouse has claimed abuse and torture and even had her small child sing the same song when in fact, if anything, the opposite was the truth. We just can not be too careful in finding out the real truth. One thing is for sure, that the internet is definiately not a source of impeccable truth and honesty. May Hashem have mercy.
Mrs. Laine
I know the family of the girl. Its one of the most respected family of Anash in Paris.
How did this happen?
I am sure they have tried everything to help.
After reading the blog my heart is torn. I cried!
Did you read it? this is a monster?
We need Moshiach Now. Only him can make the pain go away.
family friend
I am glad this story finally is being told in an open forum. This is only some of the horrific things that his family has to deal with on a day to day basis.
People like this should be excommunicated and not just not hired for work.
We need to set up a delegation to rescue this family. Please set up a fund and I will donate.
The rabonim in Paris,France knew about this animal for years and stood by and did nothing. Rabonim need to understand that if they take a job to be community leader they need to stand up not only for the simple jobs but for the ones like this that will save lives and might not come with a large check.
This poor poor family has little children that need help surviving. The emotional damage is unrepairable.
As for this so called singer I pray that as of today he will set his family free and get the treatment that he needs as he will never get work again. For there will be demonstrations any and every were he goes.
I just hope he get help before someone gives him the help by taking away his voice that he loves so much or puts a fist through his face.
hats off to ch.info for having the courage to post this article.
May the family be blessed with no more pain.
YN..
He should not be allowed to sing anywhere in the US and France, and Israel. His lame CD’s that dont sell, should be shoved……..you know where……..
A former fan of superstar
If Rabbi Dovid Cohen gave out a Psak of “Rodef” it means that this is serious.
Accordingly, no one has a right to hire him before he stops his evil actions.
unreal!
In the old days animals like him were hanged in the town square.
Ch.info don’t hide his name Yoni Chlomo Zerbib
Avi hakalah
I was planning to hire him for my daughter’s wedding.
Thank you crownhights.info for shedding some light onthis matter.
I will resonsider.
Broken Women
Thank you “Women in tears”
your post gave me the courage to seek help.
I too suffer from this in a very similar way.
Until now I couldn’t open my mouth for fear of retribution.
Now, I will stand up.
Thank you for your honesty and inspiration.
A Broken Women of CH.
a women from crown heights
maybe its time for rabbanim of every shul to start farrbranging on how to treat people
CH Fan of CH,info
Yishar Koach Crownheights.info for publishing this amazing story.
It will save many lives.
goya
Sickening. I hope the mother and children get therapy, care and much love from everyone to reverse the damage he has done.
Additionally, these children need to get brain scans -immediately- in case there was any trauma which causes brain scarring, leading to neurological problems later in life.
ceo
definetly ban him from everything. We make kiddush HaShem, not chillul HaShem.
We must use this as a reminder to reach out to those who might be in a similar situation, chas ve shalom.
We have organizations and we must use them….Shalom Task Force, etc.
HaShem Yishmor.
Is this true that Rabbonim were aware of this??????
Thats another HaShem Yishmor.
get the point
whats the problem put his name on the article. We are only as sick as our secrets and chabad has too many!The sooner they are cleaned up the sooner all can go back to work spreading yiddishkeit
Meir
Sad. Very Sad.
This should give the power to any man woman or child who is suffering from abuse.
Before Torah, Before Rebbe, and Before G-d first things first, be a good person,
curious
when did he sing for the kinnus?
STOP THIS!
A SHAME TO LUBAVITCH. MEN, TAKE CARE OF YOUR WIVES! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. NO MORE ABUSE!
Dovid K.
I too would give money to help the kids.
Please let us know where to send the funds.
Thank you.
Not the right place
This story is old news to many who know the families. it is very sad. However, I do wonder what is your motive and purpose of bringing this story on this website? Is there no difference between “public news” and “domestic issues”? I would understand if it would be the wife writing, and even then I am not cinvinced that this is the right forum. I am not saying in any way to “cover up” and hide these stories, NOT AT ALL!!! They should be addressed! But by the appropriate channels! I really don’t think that this forum is the place for a SPECIFIC case, and I don’t see what you accomplish by this. To discuss the issue in general – OK. To write and report about a specific family – NO, this is not the place for it. The fact that he is a singer who performs to the public, doesn’t justify that all the issues of his life have to be dscussed on a public forum (c’mon he is not such an important figure…) I wonder if you consulted with an authority (besides relatives..) if this is right. If so, I would like to know who they are.
Renegade
if he’s really a “Chasidic superstar” why have I never heard of him until now?!
i dont understand
what wa the point of putting this on……..if u were to put it on y are the names not there……………….
pointless
Yoni Zarbiv
Thank you for posting this.
Poor girl!
Charity starts at home
“Yossi in CH” lambasted the Rabbanim in Paris for not preventing this situation. Tell me, Yossi, are their leaders in CH actively preventing such situations? CH has its fair share of behaimos, in case you never knew, and I am sure that there are currently tens of suffering women and their children – suffering in silence in those few tree-lined blocks. Moreover, I see some of the guys and just know their wives won’t be having fun.
Privacy!!!!
What’s with privacy???? This is not you job we have robbonim for it…… Vedal
simple person
maby be there should be more then how to have kids in a kosher way (taras hamishpacha)
some thing like sholam task force should be an obligation
just as a rabbi wont marry a couple off if they have not learnt with and chassan and challah teachers
simple person
maby be there should be more then how to have kids in a kosher way (taras hamishpacha)
some thing like sholam task force should be an obligation
just as a rabbi wont marry a couple off if they have not learnt with and chassan and challah teachers
chresident
there was obviously a reason why his name was not posted being to protect his wife. why are people posting his name so that it should come out in the open and he will kill her G-d forbid? yes he is a monster but we can talk about it without using names.
there r a lot of people in abusive situations. some of them do not even realise that they r being abused while others r afraid to leave. it’s a no win situation and yes these men r monsters and we have to do everything in our power to stop them and let them know that they do not desserve to be married to a loving wife if they r going to abuse her
to PRIVACY !!!
PRIVACY ????
Apparently Rabanim werent doing much …
Its amazing how some people are so stupid
T0: privacy
privacy!!!! wrote
some times we need a situation like this to wake us
up
how many familys are living in fear when you in your privacy
are able to sleep well
one time is to many time to be hurt the rabbanim should not be quite about this nor about the other sick things that are going on in the shchuna
Some discretion please
Horrible as this is, and it is horrible, I don’t see how the family is served by publishing this story on the web. If the man is indeed guilty as charged, there are effective ways of punishing him while not compromising his family and their dignity in this manner. I think it is wrong to post this story, and all the comments about who he is only hurt his wife and children more. She obviously went to the right address with this problem–and it wasn’t the media!
been there..
its not a matter to publicize i agree
it doesnt mean you need to hide what happened, just
deal with it in the appropriate way
She can be getting more abused because of this..
abusers will continue to abuse, they will just change thier tacticts..so if he is not living with her, he will abuse her emotionally, and mentally and verbally!
he need to go for therapy..lots of it and im sure
that this can be taken care of in an open manner,just
not on a public website!
????
Not only should this scumbags name be posted his address and phone number should be posted as well. And furthermore anyone that employs him including his manager and producer.
do the right thing
this is a big problem within the jewish community and more often then not, when the wife goes to get help she isn’t taken seriously. If the husband comes from a big family and can discredit her calling her crazy, and a liar he and his relatives will get away with it. Frum chabad members of a family that ignored a pregnant woman who was calling for help as her frum husband punched her repeatedly in the stomach. When rabbanim were told about it they shrugged their shoulders and blamed the womans family.
Members of the community continue to say what a wonderful person he was – yet if someone wished them a son in law like that they quickly say chas ve shalom.
Abuse won’t stop until people really care and open up their eyes, and make these abusive men account for their actions and not support them and their followers.
not a coward
any man who has to hurt a woman is a coward
set a good example
agree with ??????
we need to take proactive action, if bochurim and young boys see that this kind of behavior isn’t acceptable , you can bet they will get the message that its not going to be tolerated and its wrong
This article is biased
This article is biased. I can only assume that it was written with information provided exclusively by the wife’s relatives, who reside in Crown Heights. I’m sure they mean well, but in these cases of Shalom Bayis, regardless of the abuse claims, they need to step aside and leave matters in the hand of the experts. This happens to be a long story and Rabbonim and professionals alike are actively involved in this case, while ensuring the safety of this family. This smear campaign, driven by hatred will only cause increased strain, especially financial to an already struggling family trying to patch things up and survive.
jessica green
Unless today’s Rabbis take a more active role in protecting our women and children – ppl will have everything settled in civil courts and loose all hope in our jewish courts. Its time the Rabbis WAKE UP and SHOW THEY CARE
Nigritude Ultramarine
>We have to say ENOUGH!!!!
>ENOUGH of you husbands who believe
>that you are higher than the law.
Get a grip! There a women who are the abusers as well.
When your finished with that broad brush, I’d like to borrow it to paint a barn.
omg
omg this is crazy!!! my heart is crying fo rthat women altough i dont know her- and the kids will be tramatized for life
NIQ
I would like to commend ch.info for being proactive and sensitive in regard to this subject.
We must do something
Have you any idea how many women & kids in the Frum veldt are abused by their husbands & fathers? EVEN IN CROWN HEIGHTS???
I have had contact with some & I can tell you, it’s a drop in the bucket. The real number is staggering.
There are only a couple of shelters for frum battered women & I want to start one here….I have been saying that to my friends for years. We need a safe place for frum women to run to.
I told my daughters right before they got married that the first time a hand or even extreme anger (verbally) is raised against them, they have their keys & they should get out. But not everyone knows that. B”H my sons in law are the sweetest guys & my daughters and their children are very happy. Not everyone is so lucky. A lot of viciousness is hidden during the Shidduch process, & some (mental illness which may lead to violence, for example) may only come to light after marriage, when new stresses arise.
I agree with everyone who says this man is a monster. We read Erev Shabbos of the Chassidishe man in Israel who beat his infant daughter to death. What are we waiting for? Another tragedy?? BATTERED WIVES: I beg you, leave!! NOW! Before you & your kids are permanently damaged, not just physically, but emotionally. I have offered my home countless times to you, but you never once took me up on the offer.
The time has come for another 10 frum shelters. The time has come for all Askanim to stop the violence toward women, & for all Rabbonim in every community to put these men (they know who they are, Rabbonim are often the first port of call in these situations) in Cherem AND PUBLICIZE: name & shame!!
To the family making the wedding who are considering hiring this creep: If you do, you send abusive husbands everywhere a message that such behavior is acceptable & NMB. Do you want to taint your Simcha by hiring someone to bring joy to your family, knowing he will return home & beat the daylights out of his family? What kind of a Simcha would it be? Your daughter starts off her new life with this example of Sholom Bayis front & center at her wedding?
BTW…this is not a new story in France. But it isn’t new here, either. Just the names are changed.
I am determined to open a shelter. There is money for everything else, I will get the money for this. Somehow.
123
I’m not sure why this has to be publicized. Of course it should be reported to the police and the family should be protected, but why put it on CHI?
Yanky,Crown Heights
Ahah!!!
Now I know why comments were banned on the “other” Chabad sites!
Some people don’t like sunlight!!!
Kudos to CrownHeights.info for not giving in to the Taliban!!!
Some one who knows the story frim inside
I can tell you guys that all this story is not true.
The case is not easy, but as a person close to him and to several Rabbonim, I am very shoked buy the way that this untrue story his going on a public place like thise website.
It’s not only Loshon Ara but it’s Motsi Shem Ra.
Maybe the guy who sent you the case, has personel interest…. check thise out and you will understand better what is going on here…
You should take this post donw the ebsite and apologize publicly.
Stam a question!
Can I ask a question?
If the half of the story is true and the family knows it why is she stying with him?
Thnik about it…
chana
you guys have know ideas what a woman can go through when underthis kind of abuse .Those woman become dependant of the abuse .One day he will abuse following day buy a gift.
they are totally manipulated
Familly side or not the facts talk for themself
And maybe that was the only way fam can do, to have the animal go back to the zoo
Rochel
Im a very close friend to the family and to the girl and I can tell you that things are even worse than that. He totally controls her mind !The family did everything to help but unfortunately the guy is seriously ill and he mentaly and physicaly damages his kids and his wife!
And wait! In the past he has forced her to write things to deny all what he did to her and under the threat of physical abuse she was forced to do it!!!
I wont be surprised if he tries again now to force her to write something that would contradict all of it.
Shes manipulated.
anonymous
Here we go again, judging – it’s amazing how you guys believe everything you read, no matter what it is, good or bad. You should all know by now that you can’t believe everything reported by the press, that they twist stories to make their “story” sound good. That’s not to say that abuse is acceptable, I’m in total agreement that we should have shelters here in CH, I’m willing to support one since those parents of their mentally disturbed children are so focused on getting them married that they hide their child’s illness, but then there are many more illness created by the marriage and the cycle doesn’t stop. PARENTS, take your child for HELP don’t send him off to his marriage, that’s isn’t help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JJ
Im french but I will write in English..
This is horrible story.
Yosef Taieb, stop protecting this pure evil man.
J. Benahim stop befriending this animal? Why are you with him all day long? Do you need him for a Chamach? I will work for you. Stop harboring this guy.
Levi Azimov, stop taking him for your sma’hot.
Moule Azimov, do something for this sad girl
CH Women Who Care
We can start by having his CD’s banned from the Crown Heights stores.
Judaica World, Hamafitz, Kehot and JCM store, this is a call for you to remove the CDs from your shelves.
Explain to whoever wants to know the reason. It will set a good example.
Yes, united we stand. The only way to prevent this from happening again.
And you guys in CH or elsewhere who believe that you can get away with it by hiding behind your beards (though cut and trimmed), your time will come up as well.
You will be on this site (or others), and hopefully this time, your picture and full name will appear.
Watch Out!!!
Ban
Ban his Music!
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A friend
Yes, I’m a friend of the family too.
YC forced her to write a letter that he is a good husband and the best father, under the threat of physical and emotional abuse.
He even wrote a letter by his own handwriting and forced her to copy it.
Maybe someone can publish that too!
ANONYMOUS
The article is not well traducted, this guy did HORIBLE things to her, and i understand that CHI cant translate everything (you will be OVERshoked).
She went to the police, she told them everything, and they signed. (it was signed by the police)
That guy is a jerk, there is no words to describe him…
Rabbis in Paris are corrupted, they wont do ANYTHING for the girl, that guy should be on cherem!!!!
Thank CHI for posting the article, it is the ONLY chabad website were we can see it ….
Concerned member of neshei chabad
Unfortunatley I am not surprised by this article. Being an active volunteer in the UK’s organisation Jewiish Women’s Aid as well as having been a worker within a local domestic abuse organisation.
It has been known for a long time that these heinous crimes are being committed within our own communites.
Mothers, we are all very concerned about shidduchim for our children, however not confronting this issue if you are CV a victim only makes the situation much worse and you are failing in your responsibilty to nuture and protect your children Now! Hashem will look after the future!! For various reasons they are not being dealt with. However, like with a very serious an infection in the body, if they are left untreated they will deteriorate until very serious damge is caused. Our prominent accepted rabbonim in the UK are reluctant to speak out, hopefully now things will change!
there are children here!
he’s no super star, please!!!
very sad!!!
how does this public dirt help the kids?
and the wife
or even the husband to
after such a public embarrassment to the kids, etc.?
did the professionals, shalom hotline, rabbis whatever…
recommend this public lynching?
how does it help?
yes, take care, speak to the proper authorities etc.. police …..
but why add salt to the wounds of the children?
Wake up Mendelson
Maybe Mr. Mendelson and his narrow minded goons can take up a new mission and use their energies for the good. They’ve got plenty of time on their hands being that they don’t work or go to seder properly. Take up a new cause that actually needs volunteers. Go get the “Rabbonim” and all your other “choshuv” community members to sign petitions to rid our neighborhood of these vile scumbag cowards. Mendelson, abuse in any shape or form brings shame. Go spend your time on real issues and stop hiding behind religion like the taliban do!
expose the mosters
RAbbonim should establish a takana , that “every man who abuses his family is going to be made public”
this is going to help a lot to reduce the cases,a t least
Stop and expose the monster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
exposing the monster is going to help a lot
good work chi
excellent that is was this story was published. now it will motivate the woman to leave him now that is it in the open. very often people dont want to leave an abusive relationship because of shame and guilt. now that this is public the shame part has been taken care of and now she hopefully will leave him and move on with her life.
France?
“On average, almost three women die each week in France after being assaulted by a partner or ex-partner.” – BBC worldnews.
Horrified Mother
Is there a fund to give money for the kids and wife?
Please post it if there is one.
thank you,
POURIM
DEAR READERS
I CANT BELIEVE THAT A LOCAL CHABAD WEBSITE COULD WRITE SUCH A LIE STORY
I KNOW THE FAMILLY FOR YEARS AND ANYONE WHO LIVE IN FRANCE WOULD TELL YOU THIS IS NOT A TRUE STORY THE FAMMILLY ARE HAPPY AND THEY PROBABLY HAVE SOME ISSUES LIKE MANY OF US NOT TO SAY EVERYONE ITS ALL ABOUT A MONEY ISSUE BETWEEN YONNI SHLOMO AND IS BROTHER INLAW MENDY COHEN THE BROTHER OF YONNIS WIFE WHO IS BEHIND ALL THIS HORIBLE ARTICLE
AND ITS A SHAME THAT YOU PUBLISHING SUCH A CRAP
Mendel from CH
Reply to Good Work.
You are so on target!
expose abusers
All abusers should be exposed in the early stages, not when their kids are old enough to feel the heat of the situation… Men that abuse should not be given aliyas in shul or any other kavodike position. Of course therapy and counseling by rabbanim should be tried. but if there is no improvement and physical and emotional abuse persist, get out while kids are young. No one should live with abuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i feel sick
i have just gone of the blog. iam sick to the stomach. i know the girl and her family. i cant believe that it took so long to get taken care of. part of this can be due to the frum society that we live in. noone wants to admit that there are problems. everything is shoved under the rug.
i cant believe the rabbinim knew about this and did nothing. what kind of rav are they by ignoring the plight of an abused pregnant woman. that is not torah, that is cowardice. unfortunantly many rabbanim behave in this manner scared of upsetting the cart. as for those people who say there are two sides of the story maybe they should go on the blog and read the wifes statement. any woman that makes a statement like hers is speaking out of desperation, do u think she appreciates having to tell the authorities intimate details about her life? a frum lubavitch woman. imagine the shame involved. no there is no two sides, this man is very sick in all areas and now has ruined four lives. the oldest daughter who wants to commit suicide at eight years old. how awful
its time to support these abused women, and time for us to tell the rabbanim that we have had enough and we wont tolerate this laissez faire approach to abuse. and its time to teach in the yeshivos how to respect a woman and how to treat her.
what a tragedy
IN SHOCK! after reading the singr blog
…I AM IN SUCH SHOCK AFTER READING WHAT THE WIFE COMPLAINTS ARE ON THE BLOG!!!!! I CANNOT BELEIVE THIS IS REAL! I hope I will not have Nightmares from this!
….this does not have to be a chillul lubavitch, this RL happens in ALL Jewish circles. Look out there how many LUBAVITCH Husbands R THE most amazing Ppl.
BH, I AM BLESSED WITH THE BEST and greatest husband I could have ever wished FOR!!!!!!
AshMan
My mother was victimized by my stepfather. I was a teenager. JUST LEAVE. Mom had the sense to get out right away and had a loving family to run to. Many women actually stay for 1, 2, or even 7 years before they LEAVE. Rachamono, some never do.
GET AWAY, any trusted Rav or Mashpiah can tell you where to go if you need a place. Call the police, if you need to. It could start with the wife and then involve the children. It could even get worse than hitting.
PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR KIDS. Get out and don’t look back. It will NOT get better.
esther
the reason why this needs to be publicized is to help others who are being abused. isn’t that obvious?
Nachman
Is it possible that his “Fame” got to his head? I find his singing pretty mediocre, and am surprised that people are so impressed with him.
Chasid @ heart.
Bs“D.
I know the family and I have been involved somewhat. On the one hand its a Chetzi Menucha because this ordeal is not over yet. On the other hand its still a tragedy that such achzarious was allowed to continue for such a long time. May Hashem bring a full yeshuah to Deena and kids B’mihera.
To: Yoni Shlomo
”Yesh Din V’Yesh Dayan”.
Tate Ad Masai ????
A french guy
You are juste unfar.
I post a comment before to tak Yoni’s defense, since I know the story from inside and I know that it’s totaly untrue and you didn’t publish it….
it’s a shame to this website.
You guys in CH are juste talking from far, not knowing the story at all, you are juste potting yourself in a big Loshon Ara and it’s not a big surprise to see that a lot of people in CH have nothing to do then that.
From where have you taken the right to publish this? even if it’s true? did you ask a Rov?
Are you publishing all the durt that is going on in personal life of every individual in CH? NO!
So you realy need to take this post down and apologize.
A shliach
Crown Heights.info thank you for posting this story.
This is a big help to the community.
Strengthen Our Support System!
“It is hard to believe that such a man, who is ultra orthodox and considers himself a religious man, is capable of this kind of cruelty”
What has being ultra orthodox got to do with the capability of inflicting harm, if anything it serves as a great cover. Long black kapote, bushy beard, saintly quiet demeanor and perfect disguise. Raw human nature does not bend under cloth. The mind of a sadistic freak will inflict harm to his wife and kids in any community in any part of the world. Thus the only hope for the abused is the community itself.
DrumIntellect
Spousal abuse is not exclusively a male on female issue. Men, if you are being abused, don’t put up with it. Get help!
Abuse is not exclusively a physical issue. If you are being degraded, nagged, put down, yelled at, or emotionally tortured you are being abused and you need to get out of the situation as soon as possible.
Anonymous
Although I partially agree with those who feel the post is an invasion of privacy, this public “dirt” can help the family if there was an address to send money, gifts and notes. It depends on the reader. Some will read and do nothing. Some will share the news. Some will want to do something POSITIVE about it which can help the healing process.
It seems a lot of people knew about the abuse but did they offer the wife help? If someone is a victim and others know what’s happening and offer nothing, do nothing, it doesn’t help her situation and reinforces her feeling of having nobody to turn to.
Ch girl
The guy is known so his life is know thats when u wanna be famous!! everyone has to know who they deal with!!!!!!!
S.T.
ITS A LIE!!!
HASHEM YISHMOR THOUSE ANYONE THINK OVER HERE??? I KNOW THIS FAMILY VERY WELL YONI IS A GOOD GUY YES HE HAD SOME PROBLEMS OF SHOLOM BAIS BUT NOTHING LIKE THIS THIS STORY CAME OUT BECAUSE OF ONE GUY, “MENDY COHEN” HE’S YONI’S BROTHER IN LAW, THE COHEN FAMILY ALWAYS HATED YONI SHLOMO AND NOW THIS SHMOCK DECIDED TO ACT!!!
TODAY YONI’S WIFE CALLED HER PARENTS TO FIND OUT WHATS THIS ALL STORY ABOUT AND SHE GOT UPSET SHE SAID THAT ITS ALL A BIG LIE AND THAT SHE DOSENT TO SPEAK TO HER FAMILY ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THAT… SHE WROTE A LETTER THAT WILL SOON ARRIVED TO THE BEIS DIN SAYING THAT SHE LOVES HER HUSBUND AND SHE’S DENYING ALL THIS STORY YONI IS A GOOD MEN WHY DO YOU WANT TO KILL HIM!
YONI THE TRUTH WILL SOON COME OUT DONT WORRY!!!
CROWN HEIGHTS INFO IF YOU ARE A REAL MEDIA POST MY COMMENT PLEASE SAVE THIS GUY ITS A LIE!!!
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Im wondering if any of his compositions were inspired by his sadistic way of living. Usually, a person makes music based on his emotions. well, what if your a disturbed person? What if you are violent? Does this show in any of his songs? or are they all “ayayai ayayai” songs, like all the other people that want to be singers but dont have the talent to compose songs???!!
its sad for KLAL Isroel
i dont see why he help to said the peoples name
its just nakes more loshon hora and its discusting
if he heart his kids and wife
YOU ARE KILLING HIS KIDS AND ALL HIS FAMILY
its ture that its very important for ppl to know about it etc…
but WHY the NAME
and some ppl like mrs laine dont care to put theire name and adding more LOSHONE HORA withe the blog
and I personnaly belive that there is a lot of exaggeration on the descreption of the abuse
it dosnt jutified but be carefulle with you article
its sad for KLAL Isroel
her family are Kohanim but not tzadikim and they blowing up storry
just to kil him since its easy bcs he is a CHASIDIC STAR!!!
Saddend
Thank you for publishing this……this is the start of more sadly!!!
We have been brushing things under the carpet for way too long!!!!!
I know personally of people who are just as messed up if not more and are still getting Aliyahs in shull and are even Gabboim!!!!!!!! What has our world come to???????????
Crownheightser
well, to see if the story is true, why dont people / rabbanim do some research? call the doctors that she wrote down on her paper that she handed to the police? see if her daughter really did go to the hospital? and then we will know if its true. FOr those that are saying that Dinah said its a lie – it might be him threatening her to take away the accustaions or else he will kill her. Eventhough it is very hard to believe (and even if you know the family soooo well) you dont know the person until you live with them. The wife might be aftraid to say the truth for fear of her life! I dont believe that they would write all those intimate things about her just to destroy yoni’s career! why would she agree to it?
please, helppppppppppppp
All ppl who are trying to cover up this story, is b/c they themselves are monsters and are affraid to be uncovered
and this is the argument“ it is untrue” “she is going to clarify writing a letter” (she is being force to do this)
“it is a lie” says the liar, when there are police reports and evidence
“they need 2 eidim” and the kids do not count, they want to hide and threaten their wives and kids: u r going to be alone for ever“ ”noone is going to married you“ ”you are ruining your kids life“ ”shidduch“ etc etc
and the they make a present, and then they start again and again and again, they are use to this
Expose these monsters NOWWWWWWWWW! you are helping the monsters to get treatment, their kids from traumas, their wives, you are makinf many ppl to think about their xconsecuences
you should tell your husband ”I will talk to the rabbis and the police” scared them, really
dont get carried away
Abuse certainly exists but it is NOT rampant in our community. There are MANY emotionally healthy couples out there. Most people who are brought up in functional stable homes will not be abusers or recipients of abuse. I know that if any of my siblings or friends were to marry someone abusive they would leave. No questions asked. Most functional people are not emotionally vulnerable as to become dependant on an abuser. I am raising my own kids to know how to stand up for themselves.
Also, let’s not forget that abuse can be two ways- I know of two women that abused their husbands. Sadly,lying about your spouse and making false accusations of abuse, is a common tactic used by disgruntled and ABUSIVE women to cause harm. Instead of physical strength they can be conniving, manipulative and dishonest. I don’t know this case at all but I do know that people have to know that many different situations can exist.
good work chi
i dont believe this to be a lie. if you read her police statement it rings true. a woman would not be willing to divulge such intimate details of her life to the authorities for no reason other to discredit her husband. there are many other ways she could have done it.
i believe that the people that are vouching for him are his french friends who either refuse to see the truth or think that by defending him is some kind of misguided loyalty on their part.
unfortunantly this is the exact attitude which helps abusers to do what they want and get away with it too. they discredit the wife and like that everyone can look away and ignore the problem. much easier to do that than to deal with the problem itself.
and yes he could be threatening her to write this letter. who knows and yes it is a good idea for the rabbanim to do a little research into the matter. maybe finally they will start moving.
i am in full agreement with crownheightser about u really dont know the person until u live with them.
Chanshie F
How can it be a lie when you see a letter written by Dina describing the abuse?? Die he force her to write and describe the physical abuse???Why do you think the family will risk to expose intimate details if it wasnt true??? Unfortunately Yoni Shlomo falls into the category of a theses typical abusers. And Mendy Cohen the brother of Dina is actually acting to save his sister. I give him a lot of credit. Im sure its not easy for him and his family but they are doing the right thing. Mendy is acting like Shimon and Levi acted in the Torah to save their sister Dina from the hands of another abuser.
Its very sad. Good luck to the Cohens family
good work chi
LOSHON HORA?
maybe if u studied the laws of loshon hora u would know that it is permitted and yes even advised in the case of SAKONOS NEFOSHOS.
this is clearly the case here. this man is dangerous and people should be aware of this. the wife and kids are crying out for help and are obviously not getting it sufficiently. we as a community are now aware of this problem and are now emporwered to help this poor woman and her children. how else could we help them if we didnt know about it.
who knows what the future holds? we should all know what this man is capable of to warn any other poor innocent women who might become ensnared.
NO THIS IS NOT LOSHON HORA. THIS IS A MITSVAH THAT CHI ARE DOING,PROTECTING THE LIVES OF THE INNOCENTS.
VERY CONFUSED???
I TRULY HOPE THAT THIS INFORMATION IS TRUE BECAUSE IF THIS ISNT THIS IS THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO TO HIM HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN
THIS FALSE INFORMATION COULD LEAD TO A LOT OF BAD THINGS AND COULD DESTROY ALL THEIR LIVES
AND IF IT IS IT SHOULD BE DEALT IN A PROPER WAY ( POLICE-RABANIM- ECT … )
WHY PUBLIZISE THIS ON CHI IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A POINT THEN WRITE AN ARTICLE ABOUT ABUSIVE HUSBANDS BUT WHY TAKE THIS SPICIFIC CASE AND THIS SPICIFIC FAMILY AND EXPOSE THEIR PROBLEMS TO EVRYONE
EVRYONE HAS PROBLEMS IN THEIR FAMILIES SOME WORST THEN OTHERS IS IT EXPOSED ON CHI ??
UNLESS SOMEONE IS REALLY TRYING TO RUIN THIS GUY AND HIS FAMILY THEN THIS WOULD ALL MAKE SENSE
Protect yourself
I am not fit to pass judgment on this story. I do not know all the details or the people involved. However, after reading the posted story and the comments posted thus far, I feel an important point needs to be made.
Abuse is real and unfortunately happens daily in our communities. We are not immune from the problems of the world. Years ago, Rabbi Twerski wrote “A Shame Born in Silence,” pictured above. How many men and women have read it?
As a Mother, Mechaneches and Mikvah lady, I implore each and every married couple to read it. Every Chosson and Kallah should read it. Learn the signs of abuse, you may be saving your own life. Girls and boys who are going into Shidduchim should read this book. It is well worth it.
We have Rabbi Twerski’s book in the waiting room of our mikvah. Look for it in yours and if its not there as the Mikvah Lady to order it.
I hope that this comment inspires all it’s readers to obtain a copy of “A Shame Born in Silence” and read it. May we be zoche to healthy homes, marriages and the final guelah, bkorov, mamash.
am
almost all the comments are really low !!
please let’s try to give a look to what is going on here:
Even if it’s truth what is exposed here but it’s not the right way to do it.
In ALL the divorce cases the familys wants to bashmuts toe other one .
In OUR RELIGION Loshon HORO is forbidenn , and for those who thinks Pikuch nefesh etc…. they should better ask a Rov about it.
And if anyone who took part of this discussion means sincerely and lemann haemes should really ask a Rov.
I am sure that all this article is all wrong and what is done here it is a big avlo.
And the first who have the ask himself is the guy who’s incharge of this site.
This is a big chilul shem Lubavitch !!!!
i have a felling thats all this is only an expression of the bad and evil part of the human being and not part of the konous to protect someone.
Concerned member of neshei chabad
This problem is rampant in every community not only France, Crown Heights or the UK. the statistics are reported to say, that a woman will suffer violence at home 35 times before reporting it, and within the ethnic comunities even more, and I would imagine within the frum community many many times more. What this post has done has brought a previously taboo subject out into the open, kudos CHinfo. After reading the various comments it is clear that many people are BH totally ignorant of the workings and trappings of domestic violence, it is all invasive. To begin to get an inkling about it, there are good authentic books and resources to research. You need to research this to protect your own kids. It is important to let our daughters know how to act and what to do at the first signs of an unhealthy relationship.
Our children need to know ‘derech heretz kodim latorah’.
Also neither should not stay in an abusive relatioship, get out and get help immediatley, for your sake your spouse, and kids. Forget about your hangups save your marriage and family at the very first signs of trouble, get help, from your Rov, mashpia, and if that doesn’t help, get profesional help, there is too much at stake to ignore and hope it will go away on its own, because it won’t!
CHR
BS’D
A POLICE REPORT DOESNT LIE, NU?
TO THE PERSON WITH THE CHASENA?
“YOU WILL RECONSIDER NOW?” My goodness, what does it take to get it in your head, woe.
all the people who are standing by him. we are going to check to see you aren’t abusing your wife and children!!!
CHANA
MRS. LAINE,
WHAT DOES ABUSE HAVE TO DO WITH RESPECTABLE FAMILY?????
IN FACT IT’S BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY’RE SO RESPECTABLE THAT IT HAPPENED.
IF THIS STORY IS TRUE THEN THE ONES TO BLAME ARE OBVIOUSLY HER SICK PARENTS WHO CONVINCED HER TO STICK AROUND (GD FORBID “GETTING DIVORCE” NEVER!!!!!) NOT HIM: HE’S OBVIOUSLY AN ILL/MENTALLY SICK GUY WHO BELONGS BEHIND BARS.
BUT HOW DO PARENTS LET THEIR DAUGHTER SUFFER FOR 10 YEARS???
SHOULD I TELL HOW? BY LISTENING TO YOUR VEEEERRYYYY RESPECTIVE MECHUTANIM THE AZIMOV WHO’VE ADVOCATED 4 YEARS TO PHYSICALLY ABUSE KIDS IN THE NAME OF GOOD CHINUCH, AND MADE “DIVORCE” THE BIGGEST DEVIL….
I’VE GROWN UP WITH BOTH YONI & DINA. HE’S NO BAD GUY, HE’S JUST A PRODUCT OF THE SYSTEM HE’S GROWN UP IN: YONI WAS REGULARLY BEATEN UP BY HIS FATHER: O BOY I REMEMBER LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY!DINA SAYS IT HERSELF!!
I’M NOT DEFENDING HIM AND I FEEL TERRIBLE FOR DINA, SHE DOESN’T DESERVE THAT AND NEITHER DO HER INNOCENT CHILDREN.
BUT LET’S STOP POINTING FINGER AND CALL THIS GUY A “MONSTER”, WE’VE FABRICATED THOSE MESHUGANAS……….
gods right hand man
the price of fame isnt simple to calculate
to a shliach in france
why do you mix “the azimows” in ? ma hakesher?
Lawyer and not rabbi
We see statements from the lawyer (who is one sided) where are the statement from the Rabbis?
No one is immune.
This problem exists all around. In my community I am aware of two families who moved away, and the rabbis were relieved so they didn’t have to deal with the abuse in those homes. They just passed the buck to the next community. I find rabbis are afraid or inexperienced to handle these situations (what would a 26 year old shliach new to a city know how to handle domestic violence in his shlichus?).
Rabbis- you help perpetuate the problem, you don’t confront the abuser and you don’t call abuse for what it is.
abuse hurts us all................
Boruch Hashem thanks to the inventions of cellphones, telephone, email, fax machines, twitter,facebook,chats, your inlaws and outlaws mouths,coventions, weddings etc… it doesn’t matter if you posted it here or not.
PEOPLE TALK TO EACH OTHER.
And they spread whatever they want, be it true or not true.
This too is a form of abuse.
An Abuser will Use friends, relatives to spread lies about the abused spouse.
R“L those who do this
have know idea what kind of harm they are really causing both to their own families as well as to others.
ABUSE HURTS US ALL/
EMOTIONAL,VERBAL,AND HITTING .
It doesn’t stop.
And many fine ”UPSTANDING“ people are currently actively involved in doing it.
Chances are that you wouldn’t believe it, because they seem so joivial and nice and funny, and ready to give .
But for the families that are suffering untold hurts, you can never imagine.
And you probably would refuse to believe.
So, for the abused spouse that finally gets away , the release is filled with degradation, embarresment and suspicion, and no one really wants to know.
Very often they are virtually left with nothing and live below poverty level, because the abusive spouse will find a way out of supporting the family and probably go on to find another ready made family or restart one.
The abused spouse during the abuse will have gone finally for help and the rabbanim will try to ” work out the problems for sholom bayis sake“ never really taking into account that if the abuser comes after the spouse and children and hurts them ch”V shalom seriously – they are not protecting the people that need protecting.
Instead the abuser will talk the talk and work around the community so that the abused spoused will never be taken seriously.
If You haven’t seen it with your own eyes,
Please believe that these people are not really being shomer the mitzvos and that their families are suffering, most silently and while most of us turn a blind eye to what is happening- because it suits us to not become involved .
Family support is necessary as an abuser seeks to seperate the spouse from friends, family or any one who can lend support or bolster confidence.
The metal abuse can break a person down where they are unable to help themselves. Because theyve been told that they aren’t smart, not intelligent and that if they are hit or called names they have done somthing to earn it.
Just as water wears away at stone so does verbal and emotional abuse and ofcourse hitting etc.
Talk away a persons selfconfidence and give them constant berating and you’ve broken their spirit.
This is so sad.
And wrong.
Being frum- we are expected to follow the Torahs guidelines of behavior. Bain adom lechavara.
People who feel they need to hurt others in any way need to seek professional help.
chani
unfortunatley the Rabonim are to blame to some extent.
they are not equipped emotionally to deal with such things – perhaps we need to give them a support system, so they have the strength to deal with it.
on the other hand,
i know of one situation where a rov made a woman feel pretty bad, even to the point where she thought she was being made fun of. this is not the first time.
i have heard such stories.
if someone considering becoming frum wd hear such things, OMG!
it is the opposite of mentschlechkeit.
shmzi
First off, I want to give kudus to CHI for having the brazen courage to publish this article. And for having the tact for not outright publishing the names. No doubt, bringing this to the open has given hope to many of the unheard voices who cry out.
Second; I work in public relations. Based on my background, I want to raise several points: (my apologies for any misspellings; I’m typing this on my blackberry)
1. In any lible suit, there’s always the question of motive. What possible motive would this woman have in fabricating this story? The accused isn’t a billionaire she’s seeking monetary damages from. So, again, why in the world would this lady be inspired, not only to concoct this story, but to go to the police?
2. In any text book case of “wrongful” defamation, the accused party will always issue a statement of some sort, categorically denying the “false claims”. Yet I have yet to hear a single utterance emitted by the accused. In the public eye, silence in response to such an accusation is almost “perceived” as an admission to guilt.
3. Now, to address the accused himself, who I’m guessing is checking this post frequently; hiding in silence will not make this go away. Come clean. Be a man. Step up and declare your flawed humanity. Express your regret and the fact that you will be going to therapy. Apologies sincerely for what you’ve done. The sooner you follow through, the quicker this story will fade away.
SHMZI
Omeyn, No one is immune
Dear “No one is immune”,
You are so right when you say, “Rabbis- you help perpetuate the problem, you don’t confront the abuser and you don’t call abuse for what it is.”
A well-known self-proclaimed Crown Heights “couples mashpia” failed in both of these ways in the case of a couple I know very well — too well. The wife’s mashpia actually confronted this “couples mashpia,” who didn’t seem to think it was any kind of big deal that the husband was punching the wife sometimes, spitting in her face, calling her “mentally ill,” in anger, etc.
Also, this same couple went to a local (Crown Heights) therapist. This therapist — a female — basically flirted with the husband, totally taken in, hook-line-and-sinker, with the same charm of the husband that had deceived the wife when the two had been going out on shidduch in the first place. They stopped seeing this counselor when they realized they both felt far worse after every expensive visit to this quack!
Fortunately, this couple got other help, and slowly things seem to be improving. Thanks to the wife’s mashpiah, who dared confront the esteemed “couples mashpiah” with the “news” that the Torah never condones a man raising his hand, etc. to his wife. In fact, a husband and wife are two halves of a whole, so if a husband does this to his wife, he’s also abusing himself, so to speak.
But this couple is healing in spite of the esteemed “Couples mashpiah,” and the “wonderful” female therapist. Not because of their “Help” — in spite of it! They used a combination help from:
1) The wife finally threatening to leave if the abuse ever happened again;
2) Both partners doing serious work with their individual mashpiim;
3) Counseling for the wife from the Jewish Board of Family and Children’s Services in Boro Park (which they found out about through the Shalom Task Force — kudos to both organizations!!!);
4) Some other self-help measures.
Someone definitely needs to re-educate these Rabbis, mashpiim, and even private frum therapists. Shalom Task Force, or Jewish Board — any possibilities of doing this? (I know, unfortunately, you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink….)
ye
Human Nature is actually a contradiction in terms. To be “human” means to think speak and behave in a rational, reasonable manner. To follow “nature” is simply to think speak and behave like an animal: instinctual, primal, and visceral. To be sure, our Rebbes have taught us for centuries that the alef-bais of chassidus is the concept of “mo’ach sholit al ha’lev”. Mind over matter. Intellect over emotion.
This whole issue is heavily charged with emotion, and rightfully so. Name calling is ineffective. Mud-slinging in the name of self-righteous delusions of who should be held responsible and what should be done, and whether or not CHI was right or wrong in publishing this article and the subsequent threads of thought posted above, does not fulfill a higher end.
However, “cooler heads” must prevail. Unless you are a family member or intimate friend, you are quite hard-pressed to provide truly meaningful insight or comment on this tragic, unfortunate situation. As one who fits both categories, I feel qualified to voice my view.
1) Mendy is doing what any loving sibling would (or should) do for another who is in distress.
2) His parents raised a large family and have spent their adult lives being moser nefesh not only for their children but also for others — to be mechanech them in the Chabad tradition of warmth and kiruv l’vavos.
3) Every effort has been made, prior to the posting of this article, to explore every avenue of acceptable recourse. The subsequent posting of the article was not intended to slander or defame the character of the individual, but rather to shock others into action to help, for up until this point there has been “no joy”.
4) The facts speak for themselves, so any feeble attempts by his “friends” and associates to defend this individual echo their own delusions and ring hollow.
5) We have an obligation — m’d’oraiso — to publicly ostracize this man who has clearly removed himself from the klal of “amise’cho” and undermined one of the fundamental underpinnings of Yiddishkeit — the family. After all it says “hochei’ach tochi’ach es amise’cho” and he has blatantly denied/rejected any attempts to remedy his situation and to save his family.
Rather than aggravate an already convoluted issue, think twice before commenting. Constructive criticism and comments are always welcome. But if anyone’s desire is simply to throw in his/her two cents worth of drivel simply for promoting debate, side-track and deviate from the ultimate problem, or slam the involved parties without having a true, clear picture of what is accurate and what is inaccurate, “better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt.”
We Want Moshiach Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
everyone likes someone elses problems. You hear them at shabbos tables or in whispers so loud that even if you tried not to listen they were said. I think that this family has suffered enough! WHY did you have to publish their name. sorry to you so called friends, what bussiness is it of yours to tell us what was happening. the problem is out there we need to be able to help not hurt. this whole article is why people don’t talk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What should have been written.
example article: there is a problem in the frum community that needs to be addressed!!!!!!
Zalmans
Rabbis are just that, Rabbis.
The Rabbis jog in a case of domestic abuse is to get the couple into therapy. If the rabbi is qualified to handle issues regarding domestic abuse then he can counsel the couple along side the therapist. However, the therapist must be the one in the lead.
The reactionary answer to the above mentioned argument is usually “buy not every therapist is good. Some make things worse.” Well, that’s the rabbi and communities job, to find qualified therapists.
to SHMZI
1) the man doesn’t know about this article and he doesn’t know English
2) this is the side of her family that trying to make a big Schmutz on him since they apparently getting divorce any way and she maybe want to ruin his life for the same price
3) a lot of ppl getting divorce and its not becoming the big article on the chabad or any web site
i know few ppl that where abused and choose to get divorce very quickly and they did the right choice but they didn’t go all over the world to make a big propaganda and Loshon Hora
we don’t need to hear all this story
who ever needs to head should hear it but its not the place to advertise it
if they have family and shalom bais issu its not internet and any sort of media its not the place
is not gonna help their situation
if is for other ppl that have problem WE should not be the KORBAN of Loshon Haro
and also is addng more hate that the non chasidc gonna hate the Chassidc and the non religious gonna hate MORE the religious and the Goyim gonna hate more the JEWS just bcs ppl get excited to read gosip
A very shock resident of CH
To Mrs. Laine
To Mrs. Laine:
Your comment that she is “from one of the most respected families in France” begs for some clarity. What does being from a respected family have to do with this story being a tragedy? Why is the fact that she’s from a respected family even relevant? Do you mean that the story is credible because it has a reliable, “respectable” source? What of people who have the same story, but do not have the advantage of coming from a “respected family” (which unfortunately may be the case in other abuse cases). Do people from less “respected” families deserve any less when it comes to dealing with abuse? Unfortunately, when it comes to dealing with a Beis Din, there may be a disadvantage in not coming from a “respected” family, with a huge burden placed on the woman in order to be believed by Rabbonim. From what I know of you, I am sure you did not intend any harm in your comment, but I think a bit of clarification would be in order.
yerachmiel schneider
B“H
No offense kids, but the Lion’s share of the so-called D.V. in the United States is 52% Female on Male– 48% Male on Female. a 50/50 split
If you do not believe me, go to Google or the F.B.I.’s web site and search for the Strauss and Gelles Study. For the last 35 years radical Jewish feminists, some Orthodox, have promulgated these lies. Believe me the REWARDS Women receive from false reporting of D.V. is huge (instant Section 8 housing, Food Stamps,free Clothing grants, free Education Grants, Free counseling of how to portray their soon-to-be ex-husbands as Frankensteins’s, free mortgage advice with help with closing costs, Free 1st months, last months and security deposits on apartments, free furniture, all under the auspices of making women ”self-actualize“ and ”break the bonds from those evil black hatted Chassidic Men,“ then every so-called ”Jewish“ Social Service agency, from Ohel to Yaled v’Yada, ad infinytum, line up to scarf up Federal dollars from the V.A.W.A, the so-called Violence Against Womens Act. I myself and at least 3 other C.H. men have been falsely accused of perpetrating Domestic Violence against their spouses when anyone with 1/2 a brain knows this is nothing but a cynical attempt to get the upper hand in the ultimate ensuing custody battle which lies ahead. And if the bare truth were to come out from just asking around, most of the Women are actually suffering from Post-Partum Depression which is being painted with the broad-brush of D.V. when really what is supposed to happen is that women need treatment–not men—exampleIn late November Catherine Pierce, Acting Director of the Office on Violence Against Women published a memo (see below) in which she suppressed all information about victimization of males and all information about perpetration of domestic violence by females. Pierce’s memo was the subject of RADAR’s Dec. 2, 2009 press release. (http://tinyurl.com/yaqk6bg)
In his directive, President Obama also said:
”By this memorandum, I assign to the Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy (Director) the responsibility for ensuring the highest level of integrity in all aspects of the executive branch’s involvement with scientific and technological processes.”
Today, RADAR is asking you to kick off the New Year by notifying Dr. John Holdren, Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, of the violation of scientific integrity by the Acting Director of the OVW and requesting that Dr. Holdren instruct the OVW that under President Obama’s scientific integrity policy, any future communication that fails to emphasize the scientific result that women’s physical aggression against their husbands and boyfriends is at least equal to that of men constitutes suppression of scientific findings, and thus puts the OVW in violation of President Obama’s directive. Please also send a copy of your letter to Catherine Pierce.
PLEASE CHECK UP!
YONI SHLOMO (ENGLISH MISTAKES) WROTE HIMSELF THIS COMMENT OF THE “ NAME ” POURIM!!
THAT THE GIRL DIDNT KNOW ABOUT THAT …. SHE KNOWS EVERYTHING, AND THE FAMILY IS TRYING TO HELP HER IN ANYWAYS!
FRENCH GUY
Moule Azimov and Levi Azimov knew all about this story!! and about all details but are still protecting this guy!
How is this possible????
How could they make farbrenguen to every chassidic dates, and leave a poor girl of their community in danger, with kids, knowing this for yeeears all details and more about this REAL STORY!!!
Moule Azimov during yud tet kislev, bring this guy to sing in front all the community! Do you think this is right???
Do the Admur Azaken will allow such a guy to sing???
Let me tell that Yoni Chlomo is asking ppl to defend him on this website!! Yes he is scared for his name only, not even his wife or his kids!!! He forced his wife, after knowing of this blog, that she shouldnt talk anymore to her family!!!!!
TO ALL THE PPL WHO DEFEND HIM!!!! MAYBE URSELF ARE ABUSERS I WONT BE SURPRISED!!!!!
The truth finally came out and he has to pay for what he did!!!!!
R.L
I bet the abuser wrote the post with the name S.T! the english is bad and he knows too many details of what happened yesterday at his own home! think about it!
sara
would everyone for one second stop judging. THIS IS WHATS WRONG WITH OUR COMMUNITIES< stop judging the family, the girl, the boy. The facts are the facts and the police reports and bloody noses prove it. And the point of putting up this post is to help other women in similar situations speak up. Not to sit by and let men abuse them….and yes, where are the rabbonim, the leaders of the community?
Mrs Klein
I must admit its the first time I feel the urge to respond to some of the posts here on the web!!
I know the parents of the girl and as some of you said its a very respected and great family.They did everything to avoid this scandale! Unfortunately, the guy is mentally ill and needs to be seen to. They cant win against illness. Please never ever judge a person or family if youre not in their shoes. Theyre begging for a divorce. They never convince her to stick around . They want freedom for their daughter.
Yoni not a bad guy? Did yo write that? you must be an abuser as well!!!! How dare you!After you read what he did you have the chuzpah to say hes not a bad guy?If hes a product of his sick family. let him get a therapy which he refuses for years!!! You re not defending him??? reread your post and ask yourself questions!! Dinah says it herself that he comes from a dysfunctional family ! I bet she does! With all what shes going through ! If youre such a good friend with him so put sense into his small tiny brain to get some therapy. Her and her family has gone through enough. Lets support the family together.
LEAH
IF IT IS BAD- JUST LEAVE
GO TO YOUR ROV AND TELL HIM YOU ARE LEAVING
THERE MIGHT BE NO SECOND CHANCE
HE COULD KILL BY ACCIDENT
HOLD ON...
As much as I hope this story isn’t true, I think we all have to think about this story being published. If for whatever reason it had to be published (ignoring Loshon Hara etc.), then I hope that CH.info got all the information from a reliable source, and made checks that it is true. Otherwise, even if half of it is true, Yoni Shlomo can sue for defemation of character. Just something to think about.
Disillusioned
of course this family needs help. we used yoni for our simcha a few years ago and now i feel sick. My heart goes out to the wife, those poor children and the extended family.
Perhaps once this is being dealt with in the way it desperately needs to, we can turn our attention to, and our wrath on, forgive me, the (hopefully) small minority of “mechanchim” in various towns and cities who are DESTROYING some of our innocent children with their antiquated and ineffective chinuch methods. Look at some of the youth all over the place to see some of the results.
This is not the forum to bring this up in at length and I don’t want to take away from the urgency of the Yoni Shlomo case, but i plead, on behalf of those too young or not knowledgeable enough to plead themselves, for guidance for our children’s teachers and supporting staff . At the very least, the children who r”l see turmoil at home deserve to have a sanctuary at school for a few hours and can even access desperately needed help from professionals at these schools.
Tragically, there are children in our midst who suffer unimaginable pain at home, only to have it heaped on them at school, under a different guise perhaps, by worn-out, underpaid, unhappy and uninspired teachers. And of course this is all part of the same package – you can’t always hire the best staff if you don’t pay them well, and for this there’s no quick fix. Personally, I’d rather my kids were home schooled rather than watch them wither in front of a teacher who should follow a different career path.
Not to say that the vast majority of our mechanchim are dedicated, warm and talented. But one incapable teacher is one too many.
concerned member of neshei chabad
Positive action needs to taken.
We need to teach and ingrain within our youth from the earliest age a respect for each other, especially for our family members. It’s not OK to lash out at home because one had a bad day at school/work etc. I would dearly love to see an ongoing system within our mosdos, where youth are encouraged right through their formative years and beyond, to show respect for everyone. This must be started immediatley, and include our young men in yeshivos, and girls in seminary as well. Also, we must teach them how to insist on having respect, and that there are certain things that are not allowed even in fun!
Someone has to answer Yerachmiel Schneid
Dear Mr. Schneider,
If your wife is physically attacking/assaulting you, I suggest you call the police and get a restraining order against her.
Then, go to the hospital and get treatment for your injuries, which will also document their occurrence.
For you to say that, “women need treatment–not men—” is doing a BIG disservice to truly abused women AND to their male abusers. You are saying that “most” abused women brought it on themselves (or are making it up??? Come on, now!). Yet Torah does not EVER advocate husbands using physical violence against their wives.
If you’re saying that most women reporting abuse are lying due to psychosis, halevei! Perhaps this is rarely the case, but that’s pretty easy to prove — i.e., forensics on the injuries.
Meanwhile, your “Post Partum Depression” analysis might apply to some situations, R“L. But there are many women who are abused long before pregnancy or the birth of children, R”L, and long after the partum period.
Obviously you have an axe to grind, but please don’t generalize your specific experience to all of the abuse situations in frum marriages, R”L.
wrong attitude
I think all of you atre missing the point what destroyed sholom rubashkin exactly what you are all doing now.The matter is being dealt with why is it necessary for all of you to publicise this.It should be kept between the family.Not one of you commented this way showing the insensitivity of people.You will cause more damage your way.Do we want to be compared to the goyim who act this way.Whoever publicised this in the beginning should beg mechillah now as ben adom lechaveroi is super serious.If we were publicising what the rebba asked us to publicise we wouldnt have falled into this quagmire.
stop defending monsters
This makes me sick to my stomach. I know Dina to be one of the sweetest girls. Her brother is obviously protecting her, isn’t this something we would all expect? He’s doing the right thing and what needed to be done long ago. The guy is a monster, how can he call himself a man let alone a superstar???
Robin Hood
Hey you “S.T.” !
Know what ? It doesn’t take to be an FBI profiler to know who you are, you “S.T.”. You signed your piece of crap. Anyone knowing this poor wife’s family can spot you in a snap.
Now to the lucid hanging around.
For sure, this poor wife is not innocent *just because* she comes from a noble family. But it happens that the writer of these lines does know both the wife and her family and shouts out that the family is a most honorable one and that their daughter’s sole blunder is not having taken some karate lessons and knocked this guy’s block off a fairly long time ago.
This is not the end of the story because a great deal of blame is to be attributed to a few so called “Rabbonim” or you name them who knew full well what was going on in this house. These guys who shine at collecting money and droning on what the Rebbe asks from us as but who are shivering cowards when dealing with critical community problems when children’s well being is at stake. These irresponsible wreckers of the L-rd’s vineyard are also to be dealt with baseball bats.
Honestly
Olam milashon elem veester
the world is not black and white
u never gonna know the truth
Hashem is the real Dayan !!!
Frenchy
Help this family instead of juging them…
Guilty until proven innocent
He has been charged. Therefore he MUST be guilty. I hope none of you ever get charged, because then you too will be guilty until proven innocent. Dumkops!
…Besides, maybe she deserved it!
(ha, now I got you angry, therefore I must be guilty too).
in response to robin hood
to robin hood. u r right on target. u got straight to the point with a very unique style. write some more
to guilty until proven innocent
do yourself a favor, close your eyes and put the face of your daughter in the place of this woman and now try to say maybe she deserves it.
if u dont have children yet. hashem should bentch u with more brains and common sense then u already have.
ps. i am not angry, i just feel bad for u and your family
Quite Bewildered
After reading many heat venting comments, I ask myself if the Rebbe isn´t saying (in Hayom Yom) “either it´s true and feel bad for the situation, etc.”
I wonder if we hand´t forgotten hoe to react (and publicize!) in unfortunate cases…
faigy
Is posting this on a website going to bring any kind of solution? I am confused as to why this article would be even posted here? Unless anyone has personally been behind the closed doors with this “terrorist” and his wife, I find that when an article is written with such venom, there is obviously a very angry person behind it…What has happened to dan lchaf zechus? why are we so ready to judge someone and potentially destroy his life as well as his family’s when we are given nothing but an article written by a nameless person?
her sister
faigy i have one question for u
You have a sister or a daughter who comes to u crying for the last !0 years of her life that she is daylly abused that her children going to continual abuse.And i could very well here gives u details that are not published .but i wont.This story would not of be published without proper proofs
Ans as you know or might not know we talking here about a respectable family who tried EVERYTHING.
The Rabbonims refused to help He refusued therappy
He refused every solutions we offer him for the last 10 years
WHat do you do ?????
Its because of pepole like you that he feels so strong he knows that he is untouchable someone who can carry on like that for such a long time is obviously mentally sick
And those are the worlds of Doctors
So i can only tell you as a sister I M FAD UP TO SEE MY SISTER AND HER CHILDREN SUFFERING.Trust me i hate watching my landry getting wash in public.But when i see my sister she is less that the shadow of herself When i hear that her daughter few weeks ago tried to drauwn herself under the bath or go over the window of her 5 floor appt i m scarred for their lifes
And when you have this “star” who getting applaused at his so called concerts each applause is an encouragement for his behaviour.If our sister would of choose the voice of silence we would of respect her choice but that is not the case
AND lets not getting carry away of the problem
TODAY RABBONIM MASHPYIMS are doing ZERO for situations like that.
YES it might not be an immediate solution but its time to let YOU GUYS KNOW THAT EACH WORDS OF PITY or each applause you give to this SUPER STAR you are encourage him to follow his sick methods of satisfy his sick mind
The same way all his friends are manipulated by him he uses all his trecks to manipulated her everytime she is ready to get a divorce and i m sure many many woman will reconize the situation
disillusioned
To “her sister wrote” – i cannot truly understand as I’ve never been in your shoes, but reading this, I do feel your family’s pain. I wish I could help in some way, but we don’t live in France. Know that my heart feels for your situation and I wish you only healing, and strength to overcome this nightmare.
If you are able, please try and look forward to the good times ahead iy”h, which will certainly come to such a deserving lady and her kids, when this will be history and your sweet sister will enjoy much naches and emotional health together with her precious children.
You have our support and love
faigy
To her sister wrote: I am not in any way trying to deny your feelings nor the feelings of your family who must be terribly devastated and hurt and I apologize if I sounded insensitive in my previous post. But for the sake of your sister and her children….how is posting all this to the public going to help them? With everything they have had to endure during all these years, don’t they deserve a future? How will they feel growing up, knowing that their privacy has been taken away from them and the whole world has had to know the humiliating details that they are trying to forget and put behind them? I understand that you are trying to defend your loved ones, but how do you think you would feel if your own aunt announced to the internet world that you tried to drown yourself in the bathtub? I’m sorry if I’m sounding insensitive (again) but i really do feel for you and your family and I really hope that we will hear only good news from now on.
A very good friend of Dina-s family
Dina, Dina!!!!!!
I am so sad and horrified.
Why so many years under silence??? It should end and right now!!!!!!!!!
To all of you my fellow women that suffer from abuse, you or your kids: please don’t be afraid to ask for help or divorce.
If your husband is an animal, better live by yourself.
PLEASE DO NOT KEEP QUIET.
all my thoughts are going to you Dina and your beautiful kids.
Don’t let yourself be manipulated, save your children and yourself.
I also send my thoughts to one of my classmates, a real eidel girl that went through this nightmare.
And if some of you husband animals are reading this article and recognize yourselves, start making tshuva and go for a therapy today! Why should your pour kids and wife have gehinom on earth????? isn’t there enough tsaros in this GOLUS????????????????????????????
STOP PUSHING MOSHIACH AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STOP DESTROYING PURE NESHAMOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STOP BEING A TERRORIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STOP BEING AN ANIMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAKE THE WORLD INTO A BETTER PLACE FOR YOUR WIFE AND CHILDREN! OR LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NECHEMYA
YONI SHLOMI WONT BE THE FIRST OF THE LAST BEHAYMAH GASA TO SING OR SPEAK AT THE KINUUS.
AND PLEASE DONT INSULT HASSIDIC SUPERSTARS BY CALLING HIM A HASSIDIC SUPERSTAR.
99.9% OF THE FRUM VELT HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF HIM. HE IS A 2 BIT 3RD RATE SINGER AND NOW WE KNOW WHY. TOO BUSY ABUSING TO WORK ON HIS SINGING…………..THE RABBONIM NEED TO APPOINT A TASK FORCE TO WEED OUT THESE ROTTEN CORES AMONGST US AND EXPOSE THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE….GARBAGE EXCUSES FOR FRUM YIDDEN.
ruchama
unreal unreal unreal just saw that blog on the guy horrible
Him there are many like him
BUT RABONIMS WHERE ARE YOU?????????
I live in Israel and let me tell you in i know two abusers that have been convicted by rabbis andjudges and sat in jail
What is the interest of those Ravs to do nothing
Its 21 century why divorce is so shamfull today why they can not do anything