Over Shabbos there was lots of talk regarding the quote from Rabbi Elyashiv, in the Israeli media, regarding his recommendation of not wearing Crocs because “they are too comfortable.” Others wouldn’t wear them simply because they look silly, but CrownHeights.info spoke with Crown Heights Rabbonim to see what they think, and the majority contested.
“Is it Ok to Wear Crocs on Yom Kippur?”
Over Shabbos there was lots of talk regarding the quote from Rabbi Elyashiv, in the Israeli media, regarding his recommendation of not wearing Crocs because “they are too comfortable.” Others wouldn’t wear them simply because they look silly, but CrownHeights.info spoke with Crown Heights Rabbonim to see what they think, and the majority contested.
Rabbi Avrohom Osdoba said “sneakers are also comfortable so I don’t see what the difference between the two are” and added that “you must wear the strap behind your calf otherwise it can be considered carrying should they fall off.”
Rabbi Boruch Dov Lesches said plainly that according to the Alter Rebbes Shulchan Aruch its fine and Rabbi Yaakov Schvei added that “as long as its not made of leather [Crocs] isn’t considered a Beged.”
Rabbi Yosef Heller was the only one on the fence saying “that I don’t know what [Rabbi Elyashiv’s] reasons for prohibiting them are, its all just hearsay.”
yid
thank you for posting this
Rabbi Pupick
the real answer is you have to ask a misnaged and do the opposite.
gemar chasima tova.
A Melamed
To Rabbi Pupick:
I don’t think showing the opposite of Ahavas Yisroel on Erev Yom Kippur is the real answer.
The order of things is #1) Investigate whether he really said it, or it was just said in his name for whatever reason. #2) If he did say it and your Rav says differently than follow your Rav. #3) Name calling is always OUT OF PLACE especially to a learned person. If we don’t want Misnagdim to make fun of us and our Rabbonim we should set the example by not making fun of their Rabbonim – This madness has to stop.
Gmar Chasimah Tova to all!
nsz
rav elyashiv never said its ossur, he just said its better not to. stop making up what one said, and then say see whatb a misnaged
kst
I am not a Misnaged and neither am I Lubavitch, but I do not appreciate the comment of Rabbi Pupick because its simply is showing the opposite of ahavas yisroel. Comments like that do elevate Sinas Chinam.. which is awful especiially at times such as these.
Rav ELyashiv’s comment should be researched and the Rav does not say anything for no reason.
And as for the Melamed .. i do appreciate your comment .. may you be granted many years of learning without financial difficulties and health.
Gmar Chasimah Tovah to all!!!!
approach to din = personality/lomdous
This is a great artile!!
Each Rav TOTALLY gives an opinion according to their personality.
Rav Osdoba – right on, humorous & halachically informative.
Rav Lesches – straight to the point, gives halacha.
The other 2 also give their opinions according to their personality.
How is it not being leather, not a beged. So my cotton white shirt is not a beged? Am I not tznius now? Maybe I should buy a leather kapote?! mmmmmm
so according to R’ Heller, what exactly is the din for Crocs? We are still wondering… ?
child
use commen sence
Rabbi Pupick-s friend
i didnt know that calling a misnaged a misnaged is name calling !
but on erev yom kipur you can remember that if the shochet is a misnaged YOU cant eat from his shchita but that misnaged could.
Let it be known..
It’s still all hearsay! There were a few notable instances recently reported of hearsay said erroneously in the name of Rav Elyashiv Shlita. What seems silly to me is that, when an opinion is heared, hearsay or not, there are some that have to somehow show that their rabbonim, (chabad rabbonim) are more learned by asking them what they have to say, knowing that the the opinion in itself is vague and needs clarification, as well as authentication from the source! being so, other views are automatic, especially in regards to the halacha of the matter, which the quoted opinion does not contest. So if anything, the quote should be authenticated before reporting on it. How amateur and unprofessional of crownheights.info news service! (along with other jewish news services equally!) It like going around saying look what I heared? Let me tell you about it, as well as what others had to say on it too! How incredulous!! And another thing, please have kavod to the rabbonim and dayonim mentioned, it is fit to add shlita.
Gmar chasima tova to ganz klal yisroel.
drh
Why do Lubavitchers always have to call out “Misnagid”? I have always found this offensive and really dont think it helps in bringing redemtion. It’s not achdus, there are always “other” groups to point fingers at and there always will be. That’s not what life as an eved Hashem is about. Moshiach will never come (whoever he may be) if we cant stop blaming others!
moshe
the rebbe already allows all as he says in sefer haminhagim “UDLO KEHAMACHMIRIM BOZEH”
shimon,CH
According to the Vosizneias quote of a question to Rav Elyoshiv he answered that technically it’s ok but better not to.
The same would apply to sneakers, because the question was about shoes that one wears all year long if one may wear them on Yom Kippur IF they are not made of leather.Apparently this was not made clear to Rabbi Osdoba as he apparently thought this was only a psak regarding Crocks only.
Apparently the rationale was that according to some Rishionim no shoes even non leather are allowed so here were non leather shoes are just as comfortable it’s ro’uy to be machmir like these shittos.
This is just my undersatanding
Rabbi A.
Honestly,when i first saw this article,i thought to myself the issur of n’elas hasandal,isnt really much to do with comfort.is has to do with leather.if not, sneakers will also be asur like Rabbi Osdaba Shlita said.
and yes plz stop the sinas chinam!misagdim rabbonim we are all bnei avrahom yitzchak and yaakov!!
gmar chasiva tovah !
confused
Rabbi Yaakov Schvei added that “as long as its not made of leather [Crocs] isn’t considered a Beged.“
— sounds a bit odd. I assume what he really said is that it isn’t considered a ”shoe“, rather a ”malbush”. A malbush is a beged, I believe. Only wooden shoes have the issue of not being a beged at all regarding carrying on shabbos.
chani
so can u wear crocs yes or no
wtvr
you say lubavitchers always call them misnagdimg well….. they gave themselves the name firstly as they were opposed to chassidus and gave us the name chassidim/ lubavitchers
talk about name calling
wants an answer please
acc to the opinion that u can wear crocs but the strap has to be put in the back. What is the halacha of wearing any other slippers????
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why do we always have to get to this point…. stop fighting all the time!…
and whats the poblem of wearing crocs???.. its a day of tshuva not the day of suffering!!!!!
me myself and i
The old misnagdim were true Masmidim, and knew shas baal peh…
todays misnagdim just are ones that keep upto the name of that song from rappaport… anyone remember how it goes,
i Ech Ey Ani Yesh I…
What are crocks?
Im surprised, did anyone have to explain to the rabonim what crocks are. like i cant believe that they all knew what they are…
Chaim
It’s a load of Croc!