Two academics at an FBI-sponsored conference Friday will accuse the NYPD of cooking the books to make the city appear safer.
NYPD Cooking the Books to Make NYC Appear Safer
Two academics at an FBI-sponsored conference Friday will accuse the NYPD of cooking the books to make the city appear safer.
The claims are contained in a survey of more than 309 police officers – most of whom have served as precinct commanders since the department started using the CompStat program in the mid-’90s.
More than half of the respondents admitted to fudging numbers, according to the study by John Eterno of Molloy College and Eli Silverman of John Jay College.
The pair of criminologists will also release recordings they obtained from several roll calls that they say capture supervisors telling officers not to take reports of robberies unless the victim is willing to go to the stationhouse.
The recordings also capture officers being told not to take reports if they think the district attorney will not prosecute.
“It’s putting people in an unreasonable position,” said Silverman, adding that there is growing pressure from top brass to keep the numbers down. “The public needs to understand that crime can fluctuate.”
Silverman said the city needs to change how it views CompStat, a program that maps crime so that police can zero in on problem areas.
“It needs to be less number-driven,” Silverman said. “You can’t just measure [cities] by their crime rate.”
Police did not immediately comment.
Silverman and Eterno, a retired NYPD captain, will present their findings at the Crime Data Conference at John Jay’s West Side campus on 10th Ave.
Betwixed
Hey, I usually don’t like knocking the cops, because I believe that most of them are truly good people and often they do put their lives on the line to protect people.
But sometimes somebody has to say something, when there are some people in the law enforcement who are just not doing what they are supposed to, and therefore making the streets more dangerous.
Something Wrong
What is going on here?
Why are they going to Sperlins house?
The community just threw him out of the Vaad, why are they still dealing with him?
Are they just showing up the community?
Can you please find out more about this.
G-d Watches Us
Simonetti, your are the one precinct commander that I cant point to a single good thing you have accomplished in the 71st during your tenure!
Crime is up across the board, your officers lack courtesy and professionalism, as do you yourself, by meeting with activists from the community, not activists for the community.
We elected a body of people WE saw fit to represent us, and you laugh at us by meeting with a crony like Chanina who cant put to words of English together coherently.
I look forward to the day that we will bid you farewell, the plague that is you will pass us, just like every evil decree the Jewish nation has suffered, yet has still managed to overcome, we will overcome you and all your cohorts just the same.
To the community I remind you that it is G-d that protects us and watches over us through the protection of the police department, and when they fail while Shomrim prevails, as we have seen throughout this entire summer.
Lets be careful
When some cops do something wrong, we should still remember that these guys are the ones who ensure our liberties and freedoms.
Although there may be some who do things wrong at times, (they should be addressed), but we must always remember to respect them as a whole.
Some may be no good, but overall they are hero’s.
Eli
City officials know that Chanina knows their cell phone numbers and he will hoch them mercilessly (except on Shabbos) if they don’t take his calls. They also know that they can chap a nosh at his house and he and his cronies will snuggle up to the brass for photo ops. You can’t beat that!
fighting for peace is like
the big variable is taxes and a community that pays the goverment it’s fair share is dealt with fairly and responsibly
the taxpayer wants to feel appreciated as does the city,state and/or federal agent so remember that while most of the streets are one way it is a live a let live world that allows for streets to be closed friday night and restaurants to be up to kosher and city officials standards
so pray for the welfare of the goverment for if were not for a government everyone would be under the table
A must read for ALL in Crown Heights
I normally, take with a grain of salt, comments posted, where people feel the need to make negative statements, while not having the real facts at hand and yet, are afraid to sign their name to it.
Although, I doubt this piece will get posted, I felt the need to say my thoughts and set the record straight. Although long, it is important for all to read !
I also ask, after having read this piece, that no web site post articles that slander the police or police handling of a situation, WITHOUT THE REAL FACTS. All this does, is perpetrate further, unnecessary fear within this community.
The job of a NYC Police Officer is an extremely difficult one, let alone dangerous. We are human, like the rest. The difference, we get criticized, yelled at, spit at, assaulted, etc, just because of the job we have.
People need to understand that not everything they read or hear about is true. This form of misinformation places FEAR in an entire community. In addition, when just one person starts a “rumor” the word spreads fast. This gives the impression that not only did the one, inaccurate thing occur, but that there were many victims, when in fact, there were NONE.
I have been a Police Officer and now Sergeant, for approximately 21 of my 25 year career at the 71 precinct. Keeping in mind it is easy for someone to get transferred, simply by filling out a request for transfer form. Like many post here say, just like the police, the vast majority of residents are good law abiding people. Unfortunately, however, even some of those feel the need to complain when having had a bad encounter with the police. I’m referring to something as simple as getting a summons. Please keep in mind, we don’t enjoy giving them out but it is a part of our job. That part is to keep all safe and sometimes that means reminding someone of the law, via a summons. I have yet, in my 25 year career, heard someone say to me they actually did commit the crime or violation for which they were arrested and or summonsed for.
I can speak from experience in saying that the 71 does NOT “fudge” numbers as many of you think. If that were the case, why is crime up??? Crimes are classified based upon statements made by the victim and the results of an investigation don at the scene. Everyone has access to the NYPD website where they can view current crime statistics, by precinct, Borough or city-wide and updated weekly. Currently, crime in this command is down 0.4% for the year. Let me further explain. Although Burglaries are up 10.2%, you should understand that only represents 17 more than last year. That’s 17 more too many, BUT, in a command of approximately 110, 000 +, not a truly significant number. You must also keep in mind the NYPD is down somewhere in the area of 6,000 officers. Auto thefts are up by only 10 crimes for the year while Grand Larcenies are up 7 crimes. This is a SIGNIFICANT, overall reduction in crime from years past. The NYPD is constantly trying new ways of policing, in an attempt to continue this downward trend.
As for the alleged “fudging”, the NYPD has a special unit called QAD (Quality Assurance Division), whose job it is to look at everything we do, including crime stats. They not only read but will also call complaints up, to ascertain if a crime was classified properly. If not, the precinct fails and the precinct commander is held accountable. The Police Commissioner would never risk the good name of himself OR the NYPD by allowing this to take place and would never promote a Commanding Officer who would do such a thing.
This precinct is transparent and we have an open door policy. We encourage ALL, to call and or visit when you hear of something and need to either verify an incident or to get the REAL FACTS as they occurred.
It’s unfortunate that good, hard working Officers get beat over the head, because of stuff like this. As much as we are supposed to be “above” the average citizen, we are human beings inside and feel exactly the same as everyone else, when bad, inaccurate and slanderous statements, of this great Police Department, are made.
It kind of makes it very difficult for one to continue to give above and beyond.
I hope all took the time to read this, in its entirety. Stop, take a moment to reflect, take responsibility for what we do and the consequences. Say hi and thanks to an Officer when you see one. I guarantee, it will make their day AND give them the strength and or rejuvenation to give “above and beyond”.
Sergeant Robert Troise. 71 Precinct Business Conditions/Community Affairs
Victim Twice
Sgt. Troise, I like how you say things like ‘open door policy’ and ‘real facts’. Allow me to share with you a real fact;
A year and a half ago I was assaulted and mugged on Eastern Parkway, on the side that is governed by the 71st, and had an expensive piece of jewelry ripped from my possession along with my purse and cell phone. I ran home and called 911 immediately and the police came, heard my story, and asked me many questions. The most important one was about the value of what was taken, which was over $1500, all factored together. A week later I called up the precinct to get my report number and asked what was the status with my case, I also asked who are the detectives handling my case, which I was told by the officers that given the properties value a detective would be assigned to it, and the response I got was quite shocking.
“Ma’am, detective don’t handle cases of this sort if they are less then $500”
I was stunned! I heard a lot about downplaying crime, but never would I have believed that I be the victim of this. Trust me, I filed complaints with the internal affairs, and the complaint board, I even called the district attorneys office. You think that helped me?
So Sergeant, please be careful when making accusations of misinformation and attempting to instill fear, the only people that were sympathetic to me was our volunteer patrol Shmira, while you and your band of self covering officers ignored and victimized me a second time.
Policing isn’t politics, and don’t think we the community are fools.
Sgt Troise
To # 8, victim twice. First off I am sorry you were the victim of a crime, but, why wait a year and a half to express your dissatisfaction on how it might have been handled?? I would’ve been more than happy (and still am)to talk to youand get things straight back then. For what it’s worth, if an Officer gave you that information it was WRONG, there are many more factors to a crime in determing when and if the detcetive Sqd will handle a case. Had you signed your name, I would have called you to discuss it with you. Mine, should you desire to call, 718 735 0528.
Sgt Troise
poetic sgt troise
poetic sgt troise
i have much more respect for you now that i see you are a good writer and i would listen to some of you BOBE MAISES.
but i walked today on kingston ave at 1:30pm the time that drivers move cars from the duble parking position.
as i see NYPD lady officer ready willing and able to give
a duble parking tiket. on the other side me and the officer see a men running to move the car. but the lady officer will not think as a person but as a real nazi. after the men
moved the car and parked. i see that lady put a tiket on the car . i was curious to see the tiket. so i walked over to look .
what do i see? yes she have given the tiket for $115.00
and the time on the tiket is 1:31 pm
after seeing this you will never convice me of any
“good cops” even if it was 1:33 pm i would not change my mind .
if you want the citizens to accept you as human being who are entitled to some mistakes you have to respect the community and the people .
and as you very well aware that crown heights is filled now with that many people. if you are going to act like this who will respect you ?
i do not belive any of your lies and i am here mor than 25 years. you only suck up to the fat pig simonetti only contributing to the fights and divisivness in this community you and mr engry bist toghther with chanina will not do any good for this community.
p.s.
did you know that a new vaad hakohol was elected and not engry bist nor chanina are part of that ?
Another answere to the great sgt troise
this is just a small exaple who and what are the NYPD.
enough to read the DAILY NEWS to see all about how corrupt are the NYPD . but since the fat simonetti came to 71 you know what bacame good in Crown heights ? NOTHING
Staten Island, NY – Two sisters are suing the NYPD, saying Staten Island-based plainclothes detectives stopped, handcuffed and arrested them – simply because they got lost on the way to an engagement party.
“We had never experienced anything like this,” said Bracha. “We were treated like criminals for no reason.”
The women asked that their faces not be shown, and that they be identified only by their middle names in this article.
Bracha, 26, received a master’s in social work from New York University in June.
Miriam, 23, got a nursing degree this year from the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey.
At the time of the July 7, 2009, incident, the women were living with their parents in Suffern, Rockland County.
They were in a rental car – Bracha was at the wheel – and lost on Willowbrook Road on Staten Island about 9:30 p.m. when they asked a passerby for directions.
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“He said, ‘You’re just around the corner,’” Bracha said. “Turn around and you’ll be right there.’”
After turning around in an apartment complex driveway, Bracha had stopped the car at a stop sign when an older-model car pulled up behind them. A man got out and knocked on the driver’s side window.
“He said, ‘Where you guys going?’” Bracha said. “We said we were on the way to a party on Willowbrook Road, but we’re not sure where it is.”
Miriam said the man reached in the car over Bracha and snatched a sheet of directions she was carrying out of her hands.
“Why would someone do that?” she said. “We started getting nervous.”
Bracha said the intersection was too heavily trafficked for her to drive off.
The man then pulled a badge from under his shirt, said he was NYPD and asked for her license and registration, Bracha said.
Bracha said she asked the man if she could use her phone to call 911 and verify that he was indeed a police officer.
“We were two women alone; it was late at night,” she said. “But he said absolutely not, snatched my phone and threw it in the car. Then he opened the door, pulled me out and handcuffed my hands behind me.”
Seeing what happened with her sister, Miriam said she tried to call 911 but was pulled from the car by another man and handcuffed.
Terrified that the men were not policemen, the women said they screamed at the drivers of passing cars to call the police even as the men jeered at them.
“We didn’t trust the badge because there are lots of stories about women being stopped by unidentified cars driven by people with badges who end up raping them,” Miriam said. “They laughed at us and said, ‘Fool, we are the police.’”
She said the officers accused them of being on drugs and threatened to confiscate the rental car if they did not quiet down.
Hustled off to the 120th Precinct stationhouse, the women were issued a summons for disorderly conduct, which a judge dismissed a month later.
The Police Department had not replied to a request for comment by press time.
“What is outrageous is how these young women responded was consummately reasonable, and to penalize them for asking a question such as, ‘Show me some credentials’ is ridiculous,” said their attorney, Ameer Benno.
Notice of claim has been filed.