CROWN HEIGHTS, Brooklyn [CHI] — The harrowing message came down the wire early this morning, at around 8:00am, that there was a victim struck by a train and killed L”A in the Kingston Avenue Subway station.
Hatzalah, Shomrim and Chesed Shel Emes all arrived on scene along with NYPD ESU and FDNY EMS and tended to the victim, who was killed instantly.
More in the Extended Article.
TRAGEDY: Bochur Killed in the Subway
CROWN HEIGHTS, Brooklyn [CHI] — The harrowing message came down the wire early this morning, at around 8:00am, that there was a victim struck by a train and killed L”A in the Kingston Avenue Subway station.
Hatzalah, Shomrim and Chesed Shel Emes all arrived on scene along with NYPD ESU and FDNY EMS and tended to the victim, who was killed instantly.
More in the Extended Article.
The Manhattan and Brooklyn bound 2, 3, 4 and 5 subway lines are all experiencing heavy delays, please plan your ride accordingly.
The name of the victim is being withheld until all family members are notified.
Baruch Dayan HoEmes
At this time, we encourage anyone with a friend or family-member who is grieving about this news, or who needs counseling for any other reason, to speak to a professional for help. One such location in Crown Heights is Interborough Counseling, which has a number of Jewish religious counselors, both male and female.
They are located at 887 East New York Avenue, between Utica and Schenectady. Contact Gerry Abelson, 718-778-0485.
Craziness
What in the world is going on? Baruch Dayan Haemes
CH-er
Please do not post before you have a name.
This makes every mother, father or friend around the world, who has a loved one here in Crown Heights think that this may be their story and they were not contacted yet.
It is frightening.
YL
BARUCH DAYAN HA’EMES
AD MOSAI!!!
HISGALUS NOW!!!
Parent
A private counselor whose specialty is dealing with R"L traumatic death, especially as it affects young people, was called in & is on his way to CH as I write this. Moshe Borowski can be reached 646 673 5909.
Crownheights.info is to be commended for this important advice. Please seek support if you need it. May we only hear simchas.
chaim
Baruch dayan emes. KEEP AWAY FROM TRACKS AT LEAST TEN FEET. Better be safe than sorry.
Eli
How do we stop this? Something HAS to be done. We can’t ignore and hide the community problems anymore. Pretending is over.
nm
boruch dayan haemes!!! enogh is enough hashem we need moshiach!
hillel paretcher
thanks CHI for bring us breaking news, this news breaks our hearts, but we need to know,and nobody keeps us informed as you do. I resolved today in the light og these tragic events to reach out to people whom need love,attention or just to extend a good word. let us increase in ahavas chinum…perhpas inviting a single girl or boy or a older person who doesnt have a place to eat shabbos or yom tov.so these boys didnt die in vain….a guteh bebentchteh zisseh yuhr to all,….
malca
baruch dayan haemes
we definately need moshiach now
Yossie
ANYONE WHO NEEDS COUNSELING SHOULD CALL NEFESH A FRUM HELP ORGANIZATION. AT
PHONE: 201-384-0084
FAX: 201-384-0018
Dr. Nosson Solomon, President: nas1@optonline.net
Debbie Rapps, Executive Director: deb.rapps@gmail.com
CO
The one thing WE can do, is to reach out to other people.
This includes:
saying Hello
sharing a pleasant hello
if someone looks lonely or stressed, invite them for tea or get someone to invite them for shabbos or any time.
offer advice to get help (counseling).
and most of all,
THINK ON YOUR OWN OF WAYS TO DO AHAVAS YISROEL.
Haim S
Hashem Yerachem!
Still grieving from the others
Please G-d this is beyond enough. Please stop. Baruch dayan haemes. Hashem the point was made a long time ago. Have mercy on Your children.
WE ALL CARE. THere are simply no words any more Hashem. I know You hear the sighs from the core of our souls. So answer us.
lets learn from it!!!
if u see something, say something!
ie.
if u suspect that someone may need help…
better be safe than sorry!!! and be politically incorrect and speak up! its worth-it!!
dont be guilty of "a blind eye" (egla arufa, lo saamod al dam re-echa!)
passive apethy enables bad to escelate! vda"l
if u need help, there are very effective solutions!! (if you fear the stigma, go outside the community for treetment)
put your pride aside! and seek help!! … for your sake or at least your loved ones!!!
Anonymous
The names and Levaya times were posted.
http://www.crownheights.inf…
TAKE HACHLATOS!!!
OUTRAGE!! HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN???!!!
WHATS GOIMG ON?!!!!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!
V’HACHAI YITEN EL LIBO!!
I UNDERTAKE:
A) TO BE A BETTER FREIND TO THOSE WHO MAY BE LONLY OR POSSIBLY DEPREST!
B) TO BE CAREFULL WITH TZNIUS!
MY GOSH!! WE GET IT PLEASE END THIS MADNESS!!! GEULA NOW! NOW!
co
you said: At this time, we encourage anyone with a friend or family-member who is grieving about this news, or who needs counseling for any other reason, to speak to a professional for help. One such location in Crown Heights is Interborough Counseling, which has a number of Jewish religious counselors, both male and female.
There should be an addition to this message and that is that if anyone sees a person depressed or at all lonely or uncomfortable, try to extend yourself to them. If they continue to seem very depressed, you should call the community council or someone to bring it to the family/friend’s attention
TAKE HACHLATOS!!!
LETS FACE IT!! WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING DIFF!!!
EVERYINE THINK… WHAT THAT MIGHT BE!
TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE A BIG DIFF! EACH IN WHATEVER WAY U CAN!
IMAGINE IF EVERYONE INCREASED IN AHAVAS YISROEL!
ESPECIALY PUT ASIDE TIME 1HR AWEEK TO HELP THE SHIDUCH CRISSES!!! WHAT A DIIF WE CAN MAKE!!! HASHEM WE’R TRYING!!! AD MOSAY!!
chayale
How do we stop this?!?!
I posted several times after the last tragic incident because I was so utterly horrified that anyone in this community could come to such a state (regardless of them being considered 100% mainstream or not) and do such a thing, that no-one else might have been aware of their state, and that they felt they had nowhere to turn and had come to a dead-end (no pun intended)!
It is a start at least to see help information being posted here and on Shmais for any needing it. The community needs to take an active, PUBLIC, and strong approach to dealing with and preventing such things! That means the community in terms of INDIVIDUALS being aware and paying attention to people and what is going on around them, and the community as a WHOLE in terms of the governing authorities, committees, etc., needing to bite the ‘keep-things-quiet-and-they-dont-exist’ bullet and get to work on dealing with things.
I gave suggestions (http://www.crownheights.inf…
), but everyone else reading here should be emailing and calling the ‘powers that be’, posting suggestions, and trying to put pressure – in case this last incident isn’t enough!
S
concerned CH
the community needs to wake up and see what’s going on inside: depression, eating disorders, bipolar/manic depression, only to name a few mental illnesses that afflict members within our community. It is an absolutely tragedy that there is a stigma here in Crown Heights against anyone that decides to seek help, be it through medication or therapy. Look at what it’s brought us to. Our schools should have counselors on staff to help our boys and girls with their problems. the Community Council should have options readily accessible to our members. HaShem, no more tragedies, but *we* must do our part to alleviate this .
to still grieving
we’re all grieving… we’re all screaming AD MOSAI… but screaming isn’t enough, we need to take action in ahavas yisroel and ahavas chinam:
if someone seems lonely or depressed, welcome them into your home! take action– show you care! especially single bochurim and girls in crown heights who aren’t living with their parents and aren’t married yet so they don’t have wives/husbands to notice… please notice, please love, please be there and maybe then our davening and screaming ad mosai won’t be empty– it will be filld with and backed up by our actions!
MOSHIACH NOW
boucher from oheli torah 73------75
b-d-e- i cant say more ,that has already been writen ,, i knew him, he was a good boy ,very friendly . what a shreack !!!!!! moshiac now
Hashem have mercy
this is so so sad i knew this boy since i was a little girl
hashem yerachem
enough is enough
Chezzy
"if u need help, there are very effective solutions!! (if you fear the stigma, go outside the community for treetment)"
This comment shows what the problem is. STIGMA!! Why can’t we celebrate our differences? Why does a boy or girl that doesn’t fit into ‘the typical mold’ need to be or feel ostracized? We need ourschools and programs to deal with such kids, not kick them out!! THEY ARE NOT WIERD! They are just different! By ignoring this and sweeping it ‘under the carpet’, we are all guilty of ‘Shfichas Domim’!!! This includes our ‘rabbonim, mechanchim, community leaders’ etc.
a fellow loving Jew
baruch dayan haemes
CH GIRL
baruch dayon haemes
MOSHIACH NOW!
STEP OUT OF THE BOX!!!
i think its time to step out of the box.CH needs a 800-hot line for teens. somthing has to be done.
CH GIRL
boruch dayan haemes
MOSHIACH NOW!!
chanie
what makes everyone think issues are being ignored and these victims have not sought help? its a lot more complicated than that.
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AD MOSAi????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE NEED MOSHIACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reb Yisroel L
How fitting I remember way back when in ULY Ocean Parkway…..He used to spend lot of time running on the tracks…..maybe he was chasing some old memories back on the tracks the place he loved spending more of his precious time.
AD MOSAI???
Every week…again and again…ad mosai???? Why is Lubavitch being hit so hard???
Former CHer
What a sweet guy Gershy was…
Keep Posting and don-t wait
To CH-er: If you have a friend or family member that you feel might have been the one that jumped, and it is only till you see the posting with the name of the person only then can you relax. You should get to that person now, and get them help they need and don’t wait till you do hear that the friend or family member of yours jumped.
Don’t make believe that you care if you really did care you would get them the help they need.
resident
I agree with every one.If you see someone needs attention or even if they dont look like it just give it to them .its free .say hello ,BE GENERUS on compliments .so many youth are suffering and need YOUR attention.
There are people that care!
If you or anyone you know needs someone to talk to – get help!
Mrs. Chana Ginsburg is an amazing Lubavitcher you can speak to. She has helped countless individuals, families and marriages. Her tremendous care and wisdom can be life-changing!
You can call her at (718) 756-1485 or email Chana@KabbalahofLife.com.
out of towner
the second one in only a few weeks!!!
DISSTRESSED
HASHEM
AD MOSAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BLEI YISRAEL, UR BROTHER PASSED AWAY!!!!!!!!!
Karen Ohayon
what a shame to loose such a good bacur we will remember his great smile
may hashem rest his soul in piece
Its not so pushet
What ‘Chanie’ wrote earlier deserves to be repeated loud and clear.
The care and help available today by professionals and community and family is not always enough – there are many conditions for which there is no available treatment, and there are challenges in life that sometimes cannot be overcome – without the help of the Creator himself. There are many conditions, situation and problems for which even after we try our best – HASHEM STILL HAS HIS WAYS and we may or may not understand those ways. There are challenges to be overcome, but there are those challenges that for reasons beyond us are not in our hands.
There is a 6 year old boy in crown heights suffering from a degenerative muscular disease for which there is no cure. His parents do not know how many years the child will live. There is a mother Shlucha who underwent successful chemo therapy for thyroid cancer. We do whatever we can, but in the end, some people are lucky, others are not. Sometimes we understand Hashem’s ways, sometimes we don’t.
Many of us seem to reason that all problems can be prevented, be it medically therapeutically or even financially. This is a total widespread misconception that plagues our community as well as society. There are many conditions which doctors cannot heal. Problems exist IN SPITE of all the means employed to alleviate it. It’s a lot more complicated then you’d think.
where is the leadership
Re: AD MOSAI??? wrote: Why is Lubavitch being hit so hard???
BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY OUR COMMUNITY HAS NO LEADERSHIP AND GUIDANCE THEREFORE PEOPLE FEEL CHAOS AND LACK OF DIRECTION. Even if you’re not depressed, think about where we are going. Moshichistim and Antis are ignoring the reality that there are no leaders for us to hear/see. Obviously we need the Rebbe and the Geulah, but in the meantime regardless of how short, we NEED to do something before we end up like hippies or Breslov or gei veis?!
yossi
oy! baruch dayen emes! Hashem, kel rachum vichanum!!!! have mercy….
ad mosai!!!
we need moshiach
I don’t think this happened b/c they did not get help, I’m sure the family tried EVERYTHING possible to help them. What we need more is to ask hashem for Rachmonis, daven and learn Torah, and beg for moshiach, from all these comments it sounds like with a smile they would have ben helped I don’t beleive that is true, I’m sure EVERYTHING was done.we just need moshiach
S.S.
Some ppl. unfortunately have medical issues and all the love and attention is not gonna cure their sickness. We should all daven for a refuah shleima. (I’m not knocking ahavas yisroel, that is always important! But saying these things make family members who did everything possible to help, feel worse…)
Lubav teen
I agree with "out of the box" ch needs an 800 hot line for teens. I am an average 17 Lubavitch girl and i can say there were so many time where that could have helped me. Thank G-d i have a loving and caring family and good friends.
There were so many points in the past few years where i was so confused, frustrated, angry and didn’t know what to do. Luckily, they were just small things and everything was resolved. I have so many friends though that i know who need help. I try to be friendly to others but sometimes its beyond my control. We need professionals. Us teens also need someone who is going to tell us that its normal to be going through what we do.
I’m not sure if you know or not… but IT’S REALLY HARD BEING A TEENAGER IN TODAYS DAY AND AGE!!!
BE NICE
As a community, we need to stop "labeling" people!!! The schools put way too much pressure on the youth to be a "hoibt" bochur and "such a great" girl. How many mandatory hours of extra chessed are required? Night seder and farbreingens that go on till after midnight, and then the boys have to be back at minyan at 7:20 AM, and if not… they get labeled. Why? Are you so perfect? Are the hanholos and melamdim so perfect? Obviously not, because our community has NO proper leadership.
The Beis Hamikdosh was destroyed because of sinas chinum, not lack of tznius. Wake up and smell the coffee, people, it’s high time we stop judging others and just BE NICE & let live!
K’siva Vachasima Tova.
LEAH NEMON
Ok I am NOT going to keep my mouth shut this time. I knew people would take a bad example from the Tzfasman suicide… People with problems saw that he pulled it off and the community covered it up and still got buried ina Jewish cemetery. No they know they can pull it off too… This is insane!!! People need to stop "talking" about it and actually do something… get counselors to those in need.. People that will not judge them based on their actions, history, "unfrum’ issues etc… I am sick to my stomach!
girl
i don`t even know what to say,all this is crazy! we really ned to beg hashem for moshiach!and really reach out to those who are around you!weather you think it or not!and by the way about the leadership you just need to look around you and find someone there are so many peaple here who can be mashpias i`m a teenage girl here in ch it did tamee me awile but as soon as i became serios about it i found there to be somany peaple who are real!as long as your looking to find the real ppl. and are not looking out for the ppl. who are hipcrites!good luck
Your neighbor
The HOTLINE is a great idea.
Let’s see who (which organizations)will
take off on the idea- similar to the Yitty Laibel hotline i-718-435-7669
On another note, there are adults that are very stressed out today dealing with combinations of difficult children,
very tight on money and both parents working. We all need to have Ahavas Yisroel and give l’chaf zcus.
I was walking the neighborhood on shabbos noticing how many people said Gut Shabbos—-very few. This is plain sad. . . . . .
It doesnt cost money to be NICE and a
friendly hello/gut shabbos Can make a BIG difference.
Wishing you all a gut gebenched yor/
ksiva vchasima tova
Rabbi Yisroel
Why Does This Happen?
Because Lubavitch INSISTS that everyone be a tzaddik. The demands to be a person who doesn’t do any wrong are overwhelming. To be a normal functional Jew is ossur.
How many beautiful children have been thrown out of school for decades? How many beautiful children have been thrown out of their homes, treated as a cancer, that the community shouldn’t know that we are not perfect?
This is not about WE NEED MOSHIACH NOW!!!!!!!!!!!. This is NOT about we have no leaders. This is not about davening more and saying more tehilim.This is about distorting what the Torah requires of a Jew. Incompetant teachers, violence in schools and at home, anger, in schools and at home, choosing "what will the community think" over one’s precious children is a Chilul Hashem and is me’akev hamoshiach BIG TIME!
If EVERY Jew is precious then how can any person who thinks of themselves as
Chabad turn a blind eye, for decades, to the social problems that exist in the Chabad community?
chutzpah
Reb Yisroel L wrote:
How fitting I remember way back when in ULY Ocean Parkway…..He used to spend lot of time running on the tracks…..maybe he was chasing some old memories back on the tracks the place he loved spending more of his precious time.
All I can say is how dare you say such a horrible thing about a person who was niftar! May HaKodesh Baruch Hu have Rachmanus on you and your family so that nothing so tragic should ever happen to you and yours! May your family be blessed with the understanding of the precious neshomas you have in your home should one of them be different and possibly not have the zitsfliesh you want them to have or if they show that they are different from the perfect cookie cutter mold you expect them to conform to!
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can somebody please tell me who is the bocher???? What is his name???? Im really nervous, im in israel and i have a friend in c”h…im really worryed….