
A Farbrengen Of “Achdus” in Downstairs 770
After the closing of the Banquet in the Hilton, Shluchim, Anash and Bochurim gathered in 770 for the traditional Farbrengen in 770, which R. Berel Lazar described as “The real Kinnus”. The Farbrengen started at around 1am and lasted to the Rebbes Minyan at 10am.
More Pictures in the Extended Article.
chani
HEY YITZY!!!
moshiach now
may this be a good start.
miki
btw, i dont think it was achdus, i think it was only one side.
Zuravitzer
WEBBY thisis ur big break, u have the scoop on the biggest story in Lubavitch for the past decade, all chabad website are posting ur pictures with the right credits. Continue bringing us the news as they happen. Mazal Tov to u and Mazal Tov to the Rebbe for this great simcha.
Zuravitzer
Rabbi Yisrael Deren said Shehecheyanu bechem umalchus, the place was packed, everyone was pushing, and happy, and felt that this was the place to be… only the shluchim can accomplish this way to go
anti
and a good end to the Mishechistim.
yankel
i whish i knew about this last night i would of shouly gon to 770
want to know
could anybody post some excerpts from the farbrengein? what was the topic about?
a shliachs child (in c.h.)
achdus is the only way to go put aside the diffrences lubavitch is the shluchim not what you see in crown heights
HirshelTzig
nice pics, Binyomin. I could kick myself! I was in CH at 4:15am and knew nothing about this, so I left.
MN
wow!
i think they should do this more often and show them whose in charge, not just when it comes to discipline but also when it comes to peulos
UNofficial shliach
Once and for all. The way it was is the way it should always be.
We need some more shluchim in C.H.
Shmerl
This is a great start! But after all the Shlucim leave – we are back with the same Tzaftim crackpots running the show!
MSM
Where is everyones Ahavas Yisroel?
David
BH
As a first hand wittness to last night’s fantastic event in 770, I can testify how beautiful it was to watch all stripes of chassidim sitting together as "sheves achim gam yachad". Halevy, this kind of conduct should continue on a steady basis. And as the occurences of the event prove, if only we stand in unity, without any iota of any sort machloikes.
Yes, I see the potential as long as we just respect each others "emunah" and "hiskashrus" to the Rebbe. . There was absolutely no violence from anyone, other than an isolated act where one bochur from a certain political persuasion, chose to rip down a sign that refers to our dear Rebbe as Melech HaMoshiach (oy vey!) and that indeed did ignite the spark of violence amongst thosde who wish to consider that the Rebbe can possibly still be the Meshiach. After the sign was reposted, the fighting stopped.
So, as you see, without starting machloikes we can enter a new stage in Lubavitch history of ACHDUS. In my humble opinion, that can only happen if we respect other’ views and opinions.
If "anti’s", who by the way, caused all this havoc to themselves by isolating themselves from 770 and hiding in their upstairs inclaves, would only start coming back into the Rebbe’s shul, afterr so many years of avoiding it and (ad kdei kach that I recall some "lefty" friends warning not ever go down there because it looks like a kindergarden and all sorts of other childish excuses with which they brainwashed their kids, etc.) would start to daven there without trying, all of a sudden, to conquer the treeitory and remove all the posters and signn, then perhhaps there can once again be true unity amongst our brethren!
mendy wal
They let Rabbi Shemtov and Rabbi Krinsky in to the zall in 770 ?
This is realy Moshiach time
Des Moines Iowa
This is truly moshiach times
it gives me so much more Emunah that ot ot Kumt Moshiach!!
curious
this looks gr8,
btw what happened to the windows of the womens shul?
speak up
David, what happened when yudle krinsky came downstairs a few years ago? That’s right he was almost killed. (If not for avraham fried who the tzfatim look up to (as most Israelis do) and stopped them)
And as far as I can remember David, he was not taking down any signs from the wall.
And if when there was a test given in 770 zal by the "vad hatmimem", an organization that happens to disagree with some of these individual people, and eggs come flying from all directions. Could you imagine what would happen if yudel or avremel or berel shemtove etc decided to come down stairs?!
If there was mace sprayed in "kolel" where reb yoel was farbrengin, could you imagine what would happen if he farbrenged in 770 zal?!, in their own tora bora mountains r"l (it’s the rebbes shull, but that’s what they turn it into).
Basically you’re a little bias with your opinions, & talking about brain washing, I think you should give yourself a close look in the mirror.
& BTW anti’s do come down stairs all the time, it’s just that they don’t make enough noise for you to relies.
It’s just the big names that have not been down stairs in years. & rightfully so, for "venishmartem meod linafshosaichem" is written in the torah.
dont forget
BTW the real Chidush is that R’ yoel (even though the pictures dont show it) was there too. He hasent been downstairs in several years
achdus rosh chodesh kislev
Now lets see if we can all attend the rosh chodesh kislev farbrengen downstairs and show them that without the shluchim here we still out number them.
yankel
col.org.il has some other pictures, & a video clip.
A Chosid Darf Zein B-simcha-Hakoe-s....
To "Speak Up":
The only ones the Tzfatim hurt-if they come downstairs, are R’Y Krinsky, A.Shemtov and some "Moisrim", all beacuse in their opinion Rabbis K & S are ordered to appair before the BADA"TZ and they dont and many other things (like not accepting certain people as Shluchim), and the "Mosrim" b/c K’shmo Ken Hu (at least according to them), NOT that i am agreeing with them but rather quite the opposite-I am just voicing their opinions. Re. R’Yoe’l, i am almost sure that i have seen him downstairs a couple of times.
Re. the test, eventhough you dont like the fact that they unfortunately control 770, if you know somthing is going to cause a fight-dont do it,there is no point, dont try to show Balabatishkeit if you know you won’t win, it’s just a silly waste of time and blood, practice some ‘Moi’ach Shalit Al Halev’. Again, i DONT agree with the animalistic traits of these (yes, they happen to be humans too) people, just pointing out their views.
BTW, i think there is a "ze l’umas ze" over here, Tzfatim-Detroit, which are just as bad-in the other direction.
It just hurts when people get so "Farbitert" over this issue, and they get so passionate-and start throwing slurs and all kinds of derogatory names that if someone was listening to the coversation with out hearing the word Tzfatim-they would think your talking about the Nazis, this is such stupidity, there is nothing wrong if there is dialouge, but quit the crap of getting so bitter over it. Argue, but like Chasidim not Misnagdim. You know, when it comes to other people that we disagree with, then we argue with love and calmness and normalcy, all of a sudden-mit a mol- it comes to are own that we disagree with-BOOM-their animals, terrorists-you name it. C’mon.
hello wake up
moshiach now by the way very nice but why did this smekel decide to take the sign down
that behaviour belongs on lee ave yes LEE AVE WILLIAMSBURG NOT crown heights these few bocurim low lifs could go to ponewitz.
ok now lets all respect another you dont want to say YECHI then dont say it but who r u to say he is chossid he isnt chossid
some one who knows
let me explain evryone something i remember the times when evry one and anyone was allowed downstiars with out any problams its not not that rabbi krinsky wasent allowed to come downstairs or he was sceard he just choose not to becuase of the pepole in wiech i will not mention ther name but u all know who they are
to top it all off if these pepole wher sain enough they would not go to court
c-mon be dan likav zechus!
i would not call him a shmekie. he is a brave hero!
he did what he felt the was the right thing to do. as many others fell.
give him credit, he risked his life to do the rebbes rotzon, (in his view at leas). like in the old days in russia!
speak up
To: A Chosid Darf Zein B-simcha-Hakoe-s….
All this, that you say that it’s only those two men & only because of the reasons you gave. That’s all excuses.
These people that want to hurt them physically don’t listen to the rabonim when “they” are told to do so! An example of this, when the rabonim said not to say yechi after “shema, boruch-shaim & hashem hu hoelokim, on yom kippure” so not to mix malchus hashem with malchus bais dovid. how well do they listen there?
So, so much for “their” kanois for the rabonim.
And what ever the reasons may be physical violence is never allowed an option.
However my point before was not, if one is right or the other. I was specifically responding to David (who said that if "anti’s"… by isolating themselves from 770 and hiding in their upstairs enclaves, would only start coming back into the Rebbe’s shul…”) that this is not practical, simply for safety reasons (regarding those chasidem atleas).
But regarding the test I strongly believe that being nispoel from them is the wrong way to deal with terror. Never give in to terror!
However I do agree that no matter what the opinions are there must always be sholem. And I want you to know that although my strong words may tell you different, when it comes to maseh bepoel, I try very hard to practice that.
ps; i am besimach! how could i not be after all this, (including this blog!).
:p
curious: wats the diff??
what?
KOTLARSKY RUNS THE KINUS, SHEMTOV IS BUILDING MOSDOS, WHAT DOES KRINSKY DO FOR LUBAVITCH?
MAYBE THE ZFATIM CAN HIRE HIM AS THE REBBES DRIVER?!
Yeka Staff
wow this is huge!!! We have to plaster these pictures all over the place as the start of a new world in lubavitch!!!
This is what’s gonna bring Moshiach!!!!!!!!!!
ps… I’m so glad there were no fights!
KING
COULD THE GABOIM AND KRINSKY MAKE SHOLOM? THAT IS THE REAL DEAL!!!!!!
Born Again Tzfasnik
To: A Chosid Darf Zein B-simcha-Hakoe-s….
Why do you say that detroit is just as bad as Tzfat? What instance do you know of that would compare to the violence and vildkeit of the tzfatim.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, as extreme as it may be, but to use hands or any other type of warfare????
Emes
I’m sure when Krinsky will "find" the Rebbe’s Tzavoah which he "lost" there will be true Sholom.
lol
Emes:
What Tzavooh? THE REBBE IS ALIVE!!!!
anti Crise,Anti terrorist,anti mishichst
A Chosid Darf Zein B-simcha-Hakoe-s… wrote:
"i think there is a "ze l’umas ze" over here, Tzfatim-Detroit, which are just as bad-in the other direction."
That is one of the many lies the Mishichistem like to fabrecate.
it’s over for the mishichistem.
12 years later were are all those that started up with the Rebbe/Aguch. If people would just know there history.
ha
to:lol wrote:
oy vey!
anti Crise,Anti terrorist,anti mishichst
HEAR WHAT I SAY/WRITE HERE TODAY:
"IT WILL BE THE MISHICHISTEM THAT WILL TAKE DOWN THE SIGNS IN 770. IT WILL BE THE MISHICHISTEM THAT WILL DESTROY THEM SELFS, AS THEY HAVE UNTILL NOW."
THAY HAVE BEEN OVER ALONG TIME AGO.
WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW IS JUST EMETH GOING TO RELIZATION.
mr coffe
pepole should just mind ther own busniss in crown heights and maybe the place would be more normal and all the tzfatim should be deported and if i my self have to call the ins i will
Krinsky number 1
The only problem is that if the rebbe is alive, then
Krinsky have to go back to work, and i don’t think
that his going to get a new car…
emes
lol:
As usual, evading the point. But then again, what are we to expect from people like you.
hi
wow!
lol
emes:
I am not sure what point you are talking about.
jack levitz
ok peeps get this stop worrying and get a life ok pepole need to just shut up in ch and live ther own lives
:)
and if i may ask, why are you all trying to find solutions for the issue at hand? and why are you bringing up even more issues… im sure that R’k and R’s can find their own ways to deal with this. and i trust and hope that one day we’ll farbreng, sheves achim gam yochad, together, as ein mishpocha.
jack levitz
ok now i have an idea who ever is in post lest go to 1414 with the ins and get rid of all the tezfatim once and for all and stop the hole kevutzah thing and let ch live in peach with out these wahckos
bored OT bochur
to:jack levitz
peach? i like peaches!
i dont get it, the letter "e"is THREE letters apart from the letter "h".
well i geuss Clinton happens.
& BTW i do agree with your comment!
mike bloomberg
ok everybody get a life!
extremism is a problem in any direction.
you can all go on blasting A Chosid Darf Zein B-simcha-Hakoe-s but we all know hes 100% right. theres no reason to start listing acts of terror but dont fool yourselves!
what lubavitch needs is for everyone to start minding their own business!
do i say yechi? non of your business! if i want to, i do if not, not. simple as that! when anyone comes along and attacks or makes fun of me for my opinions than they are NOT doing their part in being us all closer to the redemption.
MOSHIACH NOW!!!!!
bored OT bochur
to: mike bloomberg
four more years, four more years.
after your term is over, run for president.
however you most tell us be for election day if you’r a mishechist or not. otherwise you’l be misleading some of your people.
jack levitz
bored ot bochur so why dont u start by calling the ins
emes
To lol:
I’m referring to the point I made about the Tzavoah. There was a Hebrew Tzavoah which the Rebbe made besides the secular one.
In the Tzavoah the Rebbe clearly states the manner in which he wants the Mosdos to run after Gimmel Tammuz.
After three Eidim, Rabbis Mindel Chodokov and Pikarsky signed the Tzavoah, they gave it to the Rebbe. The Rebbe kept it in his room for a while until he called in Krinsky and told him to hold on to the Tzavoah. The Rebbe said, in Krinsky own words, that “I don’t want it to sit around here".
This was all common knowledge and yudel doesn’t dispute any of it. The problem started after Gimmel Tammuz, when there was a meeting about the Tzavoa and Krinsky said that he "Misplaced" the Tzavoah and he does not know where it is.
At another meeting, when this same issue came up, Avremel Shemtov stated his opinion that even Torah allows us to change certain things LeMaan HaSholom, thereby implying that not neccaceraly obligated to follow the Tzavoah.
Now, since the only copy of the Tzavoah which was seen was the copy which did not have the Rebbe’s signature, they claimed that the Tzavoah is not Halachichly valid.
At that time, the above mentioned individuals were summand to Bies Din, when they refused to appear, a Siruv was placed upon them as is usually done when on does not comply with a Hazmanah.
There claim was, that the Beis Din of Crown Heights has no jurisdiction over these matters. At that time there was a request that there be a Zabl"a, they refused, and that is where we stand now.
ANTI CRISE-ANTI MISHICHIST
all lies, the people that strarted the story you write above have long done there Tishuva and ask for Michela from the Rebbe/Aguch.
Were you there.
DID YOU SEE OR DID YOU HEAR???
emes
Dear Mr. Anti.
Obviously the most convenient way to avoid the facts is to say that they are lies, but it aint gonna fly here.
I don’t know who you are referring to when you say that "they" asked Mechilah, who are "they"?
As to what I saw and heard, I saw a Tzavoah which was signed by three Eidim (if you would like I can send it to you) and I also saw Yudel say explicitly that the Rebbe gave him the papers and he lost them (I can send you that as well).
I also heard from people who were at the meeting.
I don’t know how old you are, but you might not be old enough to remember the big meeting which took place in 770 after Gimmel Tammuz when they were planning to read the Rebbe’s Tzavoa (I think Rabbi Herson was the one who was going to read it) and some individuals who were present did not allow him to read it.
Just one piece of advice, before you say anything check up the facts.
(Btw this has nothing to do with Yechi or not Yechi; this is a different issue entirely)
Anonymous
EMES:
How about you send it over to me, and we can let the whole world know.
webmaster@crownheights.info
jack levitz
knic tamer
bored ot bochur
to:jack levitz
b/c i don’t have their number.
& besides i dont want to take away this great deed from you!
Anonymous
Thank You EMES I received your email;
Now about that email, there are 2 “will’s [Tzavoas]” one in English (secular) and that is approved by the courts, and another in Hebrew which we would have taken on our self.
BUT there is a very big problem with the Hebrew will, it is not signed by neither the Rebbe or the three witnesses, so in my eyes the Rebbe did not end up approving it, now until anyone is able to provide PROOF that there is another will which has been signed by the Rebbe then all this turns into speculation which is meaningless and non admissible in any court or any from of anything.
What I see here is an attempt to make a Machlokes, why not just take what we HAVE and KNOW and use it and not fight over SPECULATION???
And according to the will which was signed it says R. Yehuda Krinsky is the sole Executor and in event of his death R. Abraham I. Shemtov and R. Sholom M. Simpson “to serve singly and in order named as alternate or successor executor”, so even those who claim R. Simpson has anything to do with this, he dosent till the first two die C”V.
bored OT bochur
i think "EMES" better change his name.
if he eds help finding a new one, i could help>
bored OT bochur
intresanteh mayseh! webby, post the letter.
bored OT bochur
BTW, if anyone was wondering why "bored OT bochur"
is home so early, it’s because there was a test tonight so we finnish early.
( yes i’m realy a OT bochur!
bored is for real too?
maybe, you’le have to figure this out by yourself.
answer seeker
Good here some one else took the test!
By chanche would you know the answer to the 8th quetion?
mike bloomberg
those who had a hard time finding "antis" going extreme:
have you been reading this? since when do frum jews even joke about maseing to the ins?!?!?
Achdus seeker
B"H
Why are we those who decide to which Tzava we should follow, 11 years ago there was a Bais Din that was called upon
to resolve the issue, but one of the partys
refused to show up.
bored OT bochur
to: answer seeker
im not sure which test you took. there were a few diffrent ones. but takke the 8th question on my test was the only answer i didn’t know.
oh and also the last one (or last two, depends how you look at it), the one that says you should learn a mamer pal peh. does anyone else skip that, or im the only grub-yung that refuses to learn a mamer by heart?
sense
mishechistim and ztfatim are tottalytwo seperate things