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• Worried

  “Challah and Kugel for Shabbat dinner is so yesterday.”
  Are we trying to show that everyone has been “moderned up” and that the traditional Challah and Kugel are old, useless, and that we must change it? I think its a Chillul Hashem.

• toronto

  Very rice to read this!

• Jackie said it

  Rumor has it that sushi was invented by two Jews that wanted to open a restaurant but couldn’t afford a kitchen.

  Jackie Mason ’88

• To worried:

  Once upon a time your cholent did not have potatoes. Potatoes were first transported to Europe from North America. Even our “traditional” Shabbos foods have changed significantly.

  I see no mention in the article about challah and kugel being replaced. I will grant that that part could have been phrased better. However, considering that for all practical purposes one cannot fulfill ones Shabbos meal obligations without Challah it is a bit of a stretch to say that they are “old, useless…”

  I know of no halachic objection to sushi for Shabbos. Unless you can point out a halachic problem, on what basis do you say it might be a Chilul Hashem?

• RAW FISH IS FOR SEALS & BEARS & ANIMALS

  Eating raw fish {not pickled or salted) is dangerous to ones’ health, and is mentioned in Shulchan Aruch as well.

  {The Rambam also mentions that one should try to avoid eating salted or smoked fish as this too is a health risk.}

  Are we yet again bringing in GOYISHER foods and GOYISHER ideas into our minds and mouths – only to realize the damage after it’s already been done?

• veggitable

  i like veggie sushie

• Bernstein

  OMG! I feel like I live in a looney bin after reading your comments!

• Mush

  Yum, I want that tempura roll.

  Listen, why is the concept of sushi any worse than
  that of a hotdog?
  Any food eaten in a glutenous way is against the Torah.
  With a bracha and a Yiddishe attitude, I see no dilema.

• LF

  RAW FISH IS FOR SEALS & BEARS & ANIMALS wrote:
  Eating raw fish {not pickled or salted) is dangerous to ones’ health, and is mentioned in Shulchan Aruch as well.

  {The Rambam also mentions that one should try to avoid eating salted or smoked fish as this too is a health risk.}

  Are we yet again bringing in GOYISHER foods and GOYISHER ideas into our minds and mouths – only to realize the damage after it’s already been done?

  Raw fish is the least of our problems. I could only imagine what the Rambam would say about all the chazerai with chemicals,paint,MSG etc…… ,that we stuff down our kids throats.

• me

  I think we should ban all foods except for bread, meat and potatoes. Otherwise its a chillul hashem, cos we’re trying to copy the goyim

• Mom

  I think you need to clarify what you write to avoid misunderstanding:

  “The 15th Ave. Sushi Spot is so popular it’s open 7 days a week”

  Although they’re open on Motzei Shabbos, your wording is very misleading, and may lead people to believe they are CH”V open on Shabbos.

  Please fix your error.

• reply to LF

  AIEN HOCHI NAMI!
  But two wrongs don’t make one right.

• rivkie

  The truth is raw fish is dangerous! If you cook the fish it is a different story. Nobody should be eating raw fish, on Shabbos or any other time. There is nothing wrong per se with sushi but since our shabbos foods should be different than our weekday foods, if you eat sushi all week, try something different for Shabbos! (like good old gefilte fish?)

• Milhouse

  If you object to “goyisher” foods, you will eat very little. There is probably NO dish that is natively Jewish, rather than borrowed from our neighbours during our wanderings. Not cholent, not gefilte fish, not falafel. Sushi is simply the latest addition to “Jewish food”.

  The only problem I have with this article is that it’s about ten years too late. The claim that “it’s a new thing here” is ridiculous; by now sushi is ubiquitous in kosher NYC.

• To mom

  It appears that the article was copied from the NY Daily News. If the article is misleading you should contact the person who wrote it, not the website that merely reposted it (unless you want crownheights.info to rewrite articles).

• To rivkie

  Before you talk about what is dangerous and what isn’t you should consult a physician. Fresh water fish is dangerous when eaten raw, which is why sushi is never made from fresh water fish. In general salt water fish have no issues with the types of parasites that infect fresh water fish (due to the salt content of the water the live in), but it is generally advised for those who are pregnant to abstain from sushi.

  Not everyone eats sushi all during the week. Based on your logic if one were to eat sushi once a week he should specifically eat it on Shabbos. Is that what you meant?

• To RAW FISH

  Do you have a specific citation?

• sushiphiles

  If you’re worried about health risks, consider the Hg in tuna.

• veggitable

  I NEVER SAW RAW FISH SUSHI. I ONLY EAT VEGTABLE ONES.

• for goodness sakes

  pleeeeeeeeease!
  do you honestly care?

  btw get a life

• ATT me

  “me wrote:

  I think we should ban all foods except for bread, meat and potatoes. Otherwise its a chillul hashem, cos we’re trying to copy the goyim”

  if you haven’t noticed this is sarcastic and i agree 100%

• Eating raw fish is OK? Right? WRONG!

  Raw salmon dishes especially sushi can be hazardous to your health.

  That’s because a tiny tapeworm larva may lurk in the raw salmon flesh, just waiting for you to eat it so that it can take up residence in your digestive tract. Diphyllobothrium latum, carried by freshwater fish (including anadromous wild salmon, which spend their early lives in fresh water), is the largest human tapeworm. After the larva is ingested by a fish-eating mammal, it hooks onto the small intestine, where it grows to maturity, freeloading on its host for nutrients (it has a special affinity for Vitamin B12). Cooking fish or freezing it at minus-31 degrees Fahrenheit or colder for 15 hours will kill Diphyllobothrium larvae. Marinating will not. Freezing fish at slightly higher temperatures for longer periods will also kill the larvae but will likely diminish the quality of the fish.
  The irony is amazing! We take extra precautions so that we don’t drink water with bugs in it, yet, we have no problem eating fish that is KNOWN to have and cause shrotzim in our bodies!? What’s the difference?
  BTW Authentic SUSHI is made with RAW FISH – anything else is just a seaweed/rice knish!

• sushi good challa and kigel greatest

  challa and kigel are better then sushi

• Esther Hadassa

  sushi is actually a really healthy food, and is an enormous blessing to those who use it to replace pizza etc. The combination of fish, rice, ginger and vegetables is very balanced taste-wise (as the Rambam suggests), made from fresh food, not usually salted and is light.
  A wonderful way to eat healthy and stay healthy!
  Regarding risks – many foods are potentially hazardous – including the chicken in our chicken soup, or any fish, but if we keep our body energy flowing smoothly we are less susceptible to bacteria – and sushi can help to do that as it is easily digested and a good source of protein.
  Loading ourselves with oily heavy foods puts one at risk for heart disease, etc and disturbs us from fulfilling our mission in life. Being open minded to light solutions while maintaining our traditions is a great way to go.

• PLAIN AND SIMPLE

  Raw fish causes worms and parasites. It does not matter what you call it – SUSHI, SHUSHI PUSHI.

  Bottom line: If you want worms and bugs in you; EAT SUSHI. If you don’t want worms and bugs – then don’t.

• shula

  Any trustworthy sushi bar DOES freeze the fish ahead of time. Sheesh.