50 Comments

• ad mosai?!?!

  kol hakovod!
  you put it down A-1!

• A good point

  What a stupid Op-Ed :)

• dont think so

  the same wey chabad arguse on the not importint stuff they argue on the importint stuff. dont go seying that they have somthing bad abaghte evrything, look at the vidios befor thethe 1’ns you brught up.episod stating:Awsome show Mendy!

  BEST ONE YET, adorable video! go mendy go
  MENDY UR SHOWS R AMAZING.KEEP IT UP!!!!
  and much much more. in the vidio that you brught comments from them were 4 out of 12 bad 1’s evry one els seid NOT to be negitv.

  in short i Disagree

• me myself and i

  hey
  A good point wrote:
  your funny…

  wow im speachless
  well said ChaBlog

• totally agree

  exactly. good for you.maybe people should listen to the mothers of the world “if you have nothing nice to say, don’t say anything.” to thwe author of this article….hope this opens the eyes of the people of the world that think it is their job to be negative about everything.

• be alive!!

  Sorry, but you got to admit it. Arguing makes it all the more fun. Imagine we all got along, life would be so boring.

  Why do you think this web site is so popular?

  Because it offers us the opportunity to argue and discuss issues.

  And we like that.

  Because it’s fun.

  So I say, bring on the comments.

  Be alive, life is for the living. After 120 you can relax and be complacent.

  Now is the time to protest.

  Now is the time for social unrest.

  Just do it.

  And most important of all, shoot down this comment. Say how it sucks, is stupid and pointless.

  Because as I just mentioned, that is the point.

• CH Resident/victim of comments & crime

  I think too many people don’t have enough to do, so they spend their time attacking. That’s OK if you’re attacking an idea, a philosophy, or even anyone in public office…the last one is where the problems arise.

  If anyone runs for community office, on even a level like the CHJCC, he/she cannot expect to avoid negativity, even on a personal level. Just look at my all-time favorite victim, Hillary!!

  I personally have nothing but contempt for the officers of the CHJCC. Why?? Because they don’t do their jobs! We are not protected, and while it is obvious that they are not responsible for an incredible upswing of crime (they are not doing the muggings!!) they NEVER come out with any statements, nor do they organize any community events to help us.

  Making beautiful Purim Seudos is very nice & generous. Sponsoring Yom Tov clothing for Kolel families is admirable. But we are suffering from violence & wanton destruction of property, and I have NEVER, EVER heard any of the CHJCC officers say or do one single thing either proactively or reactively.

  Now I’m sure there will be many who are saying “But behind the scenes…” That’s fine, but we are just plain, simple folk who need to see concrete actions. Or are we just too stupid to comprehend the level of sophistication that goes into a meeting with Inspector Vega? Is that why we are not kept informd?

  Speaking of which, it is not only educational but entertaining to read Crownheights.info. And I appreciate the opportunity to be heard. No one else lets me vent!!

  So, I think that brings me to the Kuntz…people vent & yes, attack, because their voices are never heard. The greater the frustration, the nastier the comments.

  I, too, have been responsible for some “not nice” comments. Like the vast majority of posters, I curb my comments as far as possible. However, sometimes my typing finger runs away with me, especially when some posts are patronizing,or exhibit a holier-than-thou attitude. If I’m suffering, or angry/irritated about a situation, or if I’m just plain amused, supercillious comments from do-gooders, the naive, or holy-rollers bring out the worst in me, and I guess in many others too. I’ll try to do better next time.

  I hope everyone has a great day…thank you All for your comments. I may not agree with you, but I’m never bored!!

• Zahava

  CHR/VOC&C:
  Intelligent
  Articulate
  Entertaining
  comments;and it’s refreshing to read a post where SPELCHEK wasn’t necessary…

  MY RANT: why are so many posters illiterate? Why can’t Yoni READ? Or SPELL? Gentle posters; do us a favor
  take the time to do a spell check before you press SEND.

• why can-t we all just get along?

  Thank you for this article – you voiced the opinion of so many in this community who are frustrated by the constant fighting here.

  To: Be Alive!!
  Whatever happened to “V’ahavta Leraiacha Kamocha”? Just forget about kindness towards others in the name of “having fun and enjoying life?”
  What’s wrong with this picture????

• anonymous writer

  Where is the name of this person that wrote this article?
  He complains that people just post negative comments anonymously can you tell me what this person is doing if not doing just the thing he is complaining about in his article….he is complaining anonymously about something, if you feel SO STRONG PUT YOU NAME ON YOUR ARTICLE AND DON’T BE A WHINY WIMP that write an article criticizing everybody for doing what your doing just like everyone else anonymously just as I will remain anonymous.

• To CH Resident/Victim

  Well said! We love you!
  Love,
  DD#2

• Meir

  You see even this letter agrees that this site beat shmais

• Op-Ed

  This Op-Ed is just making more hatred to each other

• thats funny

  Well, looks like the author of this article is indeed the “king of arguments”, his whole purpose in writing this to begin with is to stir up more arguments, and open up more cans of worms. Doesnt anyone get it?

• proud

  yes, we argue and complain, kvetch and question. and we are proud of it. that is why sometimes people avoid us.

• Negative

  The only way these negative comments will stop is if Webby does not post them

• Chana

  This is just ridiculous. <i>Obviously</i> people will have different views that they want to express if a website allows the readers to post comments.

  And another thing: why are specifically Lubavitchers the subject of <i>your</i> attack. If you’ve ever stumbled across a blog from Williamsburg or the like, you’ll find well over 100 comments on each post.

  If you don’t like what you read, then lobby for the comments to be disabled. End of story.

• to CH Resident/victim

  Thanks for pointing out nother “talent” of the Lubavitchers – the ability to turn any discussion or issue into a discussion about the CHJJC or the Beis Din etc…

  What does the fact that you hate the CHJCC have to do with the content of the article?

  Perhaps someone already mentioned the Community Council in a previous post, however the terrible spelling, grammar and lack of punctuation make it rather difficult to decipher many of the posts.

  This of course is also a talent that we have – we seem to be incapable of stringing words and letters together in ways that make sense to the average English speaker. See the post by “dont think so” above for a prime example of this.

• Agree

  Agree that comments are often senseless and simply immature — lowers the caliber of the entire site.

• English speaking, anyone?

  Some of you really need to learn how to spell….

• possut on seychel

  i think you have little exprinece with comments, go to israeli web sites or any web sites where you can comment you will see everyone comments about the dumbest things.
  nothing to do with chabad you obviously have something aginst your chabadnik inside of you.

• The Editor - ChaBlog Lubavitch

  I DID NOT WRITE THIS FOR CROWNHEIGHTS.INFO I WROTE IT FOR MYSELF AND SOME FRIENDS WHO READ MY BLOG. CROWNHEIGHTS.INFO ASKED IF THEY COULD POST IT AND I SIAD YES. I ASKED THEM TO LINK TO MY BLOG SO THAT PEOPLE COULD KNOW WHO I AM BUT I DID NOT WANT/NEED TO PUT MY NAME ON IT SO THAT EVERY YUTZ THAT COMES ALONG AND DISSAGREES WITH WHAT I HAVE TO SAY HAS ISSUES WITH ME.

• Don-t forget to put on Tefillin

  “The most basic and powerful way to connect to another person is to listen. Just listen. Perhaps the most important thing we ever give each other is our attention…. A loving silence often has far more power to heal and to connect than the most well-intentioned words.”
  –Rachel Naomi Remen

• Boruch ben Tzvi HaKohaine Hoffinger

  B”H
  I didn’t read any of the comments because they lose strength since they are anonymous.
  I think this anonymity weakens Crownheights.info and hurts the Jewish character of this community. It makes it seem that many of its residents aren’t connected to others and they live in fear, not brotherhood/sisterhood.
  WE ARE ONE FAMILY. ONE BODY-ZOHAR

  To me, if a Yid (Unless it’s definitely dangerous) doesn’t state his/her name, they don’t believe in what they are writing, are NOT proud of themselves, and it, therefore is not healthy/worthy enough to be read. The writer loses impact and his/her statement becomes wishy-washy and insignificant. If the writer doesn’t want to be pestered, don’t write!
  I’m certain, after a search, that I will find in Pirke Avos a teaching condemning anonymity.
  The Bal Shem Tov’s father told his son not to fear any person, only G-d.
  bhoffinger@aol.com

• NanoJew

  To ‘thats funny’ who posted at 9:36am:

  You obviously don’t know Chablogger at all. I am positive that his blog post was how he really felt and that he is not trying to stir up any controversy. Shkoyech for the article Chablogger.

• be alive!!

  To-why can-t we all just get along?
  Firstly I would like to thank you for demonstrating my point.
  Now you see for yourself how easy it is to get drawn into disagreement.
  However I fail to see your logic.
  You mention “what happened to “V’ahavta Leraiacha Kamocha”?”
  And the connection is????
  Never did I mention that we should hate each other.
  Never did I mention that we should not love and respect each other.
  All I said is that arguments and discussions are fun.

  For example: I can say that apple juice is the best juice in the world. You can argue with me and maintain that orange juice is superior.
  We can spend days arguing, each trying to prove our point.
  Yet we can still be friends. Best friends. We can love each other.
  And we can have a good time debating our opinions.
  Just because you have a different opinion, and just because you choose to voice it, does not mean you hate your opponent.
  Take both of us for example. I don’t know you. I probably never will. And you likewise don’t know me.
  We apparently disagree. Yet I don’t hate you.
  In fact, I like you, you have done me a service, a favor.
  I have had an opportunity to brush up on my writing skills.
  I have just spent an enjoyable half an hour coming up with an appropriate response to your critique.
  Thank you.
  I remain, anonymous.

• Anonymous...and proud of it!!

  I stand corrected.

  I live amongst illiterate, hateful morons who can’t see the wood for the trees.

  Up until today I was able to see some redeeming features in our local Yukelach; not many, but some.

  Obviously I was wrong. There aren’t any.

  Is that nasty enough for you??

  I can get more descriptive if you like.

  And no, I won’t sign my name.

  Lots of respect to R’ Hoffinger. However, I believe in self-preservation.

  LOL :)

• start the peace

  I agree with the Op Ed, it is sad that we are fighting about the fact that we fight.

• anon

  Forget the Op-Ed……
  Whats up with the spelling??!!!

• hmmm

  EVRYONE WHO JUST WROTE “COMMENTS” PROVES THEIR POINT (stupid comments, arguing back & forth, seeing olny negitive in episodes etc. etc.)

• still waiting for my say....

  Please publish this:

  We see loshen hora – it was all published, no questions asked

  The pleas to stop loshen hora – they don’t make it to the blog – apparently not worthwhile publishing. Perhaps considered ‘boring’

  And we worry about the readers?

  Techie, Webby, you need some integrity and discretion when approving your posts.

  Come on guys, please publish this.

• Comments

  Ya Webby & Techie the easiest way to stop this fighting is to simply not to post bad comments.

• Cohen

  To add to the previous comment, this website should also not post any comments that have lashon horah in it.

• Underpaid Teacher Looking To Make A $

  Oh, get a life, people!! Stop taking yourselves so seriously!

  Loosen up, enjoy yourselves, and take written English courses so you can spell AND punctuate correctly. Scholastic has some great grammar books available.

  I’ll tutor anyone who’s interested..for a small fee, of course!

• nobody impotant, but opinionated anyway

  This site is a wonderful news resource, it keeps those of us who live out of the schuna updated on the goings on, and keeps all of anash up-to-date on mazal tovs. Yasher Koach!
  I don’t read all of the comments posted, but the writer of ChaBlog does seem to have a good point.
  Maybe the comment option should be removed from the site. People have the right to say what they want, first ammendment and all… but does it have to be in writing for all the world to read? Comments, especially directed at specific people, can come very close to being avak lashon hara.
  I suppose, though, that one who reads the comments, knowing their nature, would be persuing lashon hara, which equally prohibited, as he is reading it willingly. Pehaps ChaBlog shouldn’t read the comments, as so many of us manage not to?

• CH Resident/victim of crime & comments

  WOW!!!

  Did I use the word “hate” when I wrote about the CHJCC? Or did I even mention the Bais Din?

  If posters actually READ the articles to which they respond, their comments may have more credibility.

  Obviously you have massive chip on your shoulder. Perhaps the backache you suffer from as a result makes you so cranky you can’t concentrate to read properly.

  I could say more, but as I said before, I’m trying to be nice. Of course, it’s not always easy, especially when dealing with irrational people who get information wrong & respond to things that aren’t there.

  Now THAT’S a big part of the problem.

• CHT

  I have two points for this article:

  1) crownheightsinfo should probably be cutting any insult, if it does not do so already. Insult is not acceptable and against Torah.

  2) I am sure Mendy greatly appreciated critics – as far as it was not an insult. I think, as any creative person, critics is what makes him shape and become better. He can always ignore it if he wants. For instance, he always shake head left and right and let’s say someone criticize it. If he intended this to be part of his fun image, he will ignore critics, if not he will listen to it.

• Oy Vay

  after reading this blog and the 30something comments all i can say is that these comments bring out his/her point even better that he/she was able to.

  to Zahava: your 1000% right

  To Techie or Webbie: is there any way you can add a spellcheck to the comment box??

  either way keep up the great work.

• CHT

  Oy Vay, switch to Firefox, it takes care of spell check automatically.

• bahchur from o. t. 73--------75

  B. H. well said and well writen , we all have are oppinion , thats what make us people with a head on our
  shoulders , benny keep up the good work . lots of naces to yr father ,
  and one day with the right girl

• Fan

  The ONLY way to stop this hatred to each other is if the editors of this website only post good comments & they should not post mean comments.

• Sara

  Everyone has their own opinions of things, which is fine, but ONE thing is not fine! and that is to argue and fight, noone can justify that at all, if people fight or argue or speak bad about others, or put others down, is because they have nothing to do in their life,and obviously they haven’t internalized the Torah in them. arguments dont bring any good. we must all learn have to have Achdus and respect others opinions, and doings.
  if we argue and try to show others that what WE think is right, its because of our own Gaava, becasue we cannot stand the fact that not eveyone is agreeing with us!! so we start fighting.
  but what we have to know, is that not everyone thinks like us, not everyone acts the same etc…we must respect everyone for who they are, even if they do something wrong, only rebuke if you know they will listen to you. dont heat up arguments for ‘fun’.
  when I was visiting Crown Heights, what was I hearing most of the day? speach aout others, look what shes wearing, oh you know what she did yesterday? it was disscusting what she said to that one..etc..lashon hara and more ….. there is no justification for any of this according to the Torah. noone can argue with that.
  I hope we will all have more Ahavas Yisrael and get along, for after all ‘kol yisroel arevim ze laze’.

• Old Resident

  I defenantly disagree. Is there anyone arguing on Croown Heights.Info?

• Old Resident

  To Zahava (8th post):

  MY RANT: why are so many posters illiterate? Why can’t Yoni READ? Or SPELL? Gentle posters; do us a favor
  take the time to do a spell check before you press SEND.

  Now that Google has a spell checker on IE7 (Free to download), I pledge to always use this tool before posting comments.

• Convince

  You guys are all missing the point we can take care of this problem with out arguing all we need to do is someone (if I would have Webby or Techies phone number I would) should speak to either Webby or Techie & convince them to not put on the comments that argue & are not nice.

• anonymous

  this was soooo entertaining!

• people will be people

  i don’t know what this has to do with lubvitchers. i think it’s just people, regardless or despite of their learning chassidus.

• OOT

  This article was great, and to all those of you who complain that you like to lighten up and have some fun with senseless arguments, what bothers me is that it’s such a negative peanut gallery. I remember there was an article a few weeks ago, and a certain picture of a siddur and a out of focus girl won an award. There were comments a mile long about how it should not have won an award, how other pictures were much nicer etc etc. Come on? Who do you think you are? Peanut Gallery. The judges of the contest decided which one deserved to win, they chose that one, good for them. Who cares which one you thought deserved to win. That’s just an example. Come on, it’s fun to argue if it’s an issue that pertains somewhat to you, but if not, why write? Who cares?

• CH Resident/victim of crime & comments

  Seems like you are the victim of yet another comment.
  “Did I use the word “hate” when I wrote about the CHJCC?”

  “I personally have nothing but contempt for the officers of the CHJCC”

  Sorry. Hate was the wrong word. However, in my opinion, the fact that you have “nothing but contempt” is close enough.

  It seems like you also have difficulty READING peoples post. I was merely pointing out that a vast number of Lubavitcher have the ability (and it seems, the need) to make all discussions into something they are not – you turned the original article into a CHJJC bash fest, it is inevitable that someone else will turn it into a Beis Dis bash fest.

  “Obviously you have massive chip on your shoulder. Perhaps the backache you suffer from as a result makes you so cranky you can’t concentrate to read properly”

  Eloquent. This statement is filed away for future use. Thanks.

• Carefully

  I say that this site should check each comment very carefully & only post the normal ones.