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Flippin- out
B"H
Hey Webby, you sound like your having some inner strugles recently, and that some sects are having an influence on your reporting:
Just an ineresting observation:
There were 21 pic.’s of upstairs and 10 of downstairs, now as far as i know downstairs seems to me like a bigger room i mean -thats pretty obvious, and my vision seems to tell me that there was alot more people downstairs then upstairs, AND, as far as i understand, the most recent Farbrengens we had with the Rebbe, were DOWNSTAIRS, NOT upstairs, so you have 1-Larger room, 2-ALOT more people, and 3-More historically important spot (I dont know if the Spokesman for LNS will come the same conclusion, but the facts are the facts) , so 1+1+1=3.
I come to the conclusion, that from a reporters point of view, there should be more reporting (in this case-pictures) of Downstairs, not only that, but the picture that is on the homepage is that of upstairs, hhmmm’….
,so now i have all of the above, plus….When you reported the Yud-Alef Nisan Farbrengen’s, i dont think (my memory tells me that you didnt)you even mentioned that there was a Farbrengen in 770 and i do know for sure that the feature picture on the homepage for that report was the Farbrengen in BR (and if i recall correctly, i dont think the rebbe ever farbrenged there)and BTW i’m sure your aware the the all these events are all revolving around the Rebbe, and the Rebbe farbrenged in ONE place =770 E.P.-just keep that in mind.
So,from all the above, an educated guess woud lead me to think that your on the verge of becoming biased Ch’V, like some other Lubavitch news sites (eg; COL, Chabad.info, Chabadnik- may it rest in peace). what was so unique (or so i thought) about your site was that your not biased and you report-like a reporter should ie; w/o any lean or bias, that does not mean that you shouldn’t report any farbrengen thats not in 770, but at least show priority to whats right, if there’s a room with 30 people and another with 800, i’d think a reporter would report more about the room of 800, or i can take the benifit of the doubt and say that in both cases above, you were ummm’ lets think, maybe …in a rush, and that’s why you couldn’t take more pictures (or in the case of BR, that you didnt take pictures or report at all of 770, but it just happen’s to be that i did see you at the 11 Nissan Farb’ in 770, so…), but the point is that just in the future please be ehemmmm’ if i’m allowed to say, a little more realistic, and in that way you can make everybody happy, which is why i think your site became in the first place, so succesful, so thank’s at least for reporting what you DID, and keep up the good work!
Another observation:
I see that most of the pic’.s of upstair’s are centered around either of 2 pepople-R’ A. S. and R’ Y. K., hhhmmm”..are they the new "leaders"???
Anyways,i, just like anybody else am sick of all the political conundrom, and hate the constant "dirty laundry" (which most of it is unfortunatly planted by selfish Lubavitchers themselves who only care about their PR), but i just had to write this comment-although i did try to keep as unpolitical as possobile, but thanks webby for entitling the public to voice their opinion—That’s blogging.
~n’eNow!~
Bochur
Avremel – welcome back to 770!
whoa
whoa
heshel mangel
i just have a question how do you take pictures an yom tov? if anybody knows the answer please send to me at yhm1995@aol.com
eli
how come R’ Yoel is not in the main Farbrengen?
What?
in the downstairs pictures, what was everybody looking towards one direction for?? what were they looking at?
1o
nice pic’s webby, but how did you take them on yomtov?
It-s Me
What’s up with Avremel’s Brisker payos?
question....
Stupid question people about how the pictures were taken on yom tov…use your imagination:)
stam a bochur
iy"h next year in (yerushalayim) the upstairs farbrengen will be downstairs with the rebbe and the donstairs lunatics
i.e. the tzfatim will have seudas moshiach in baghdad teikef imiyat mamash now amen
bibirkas didan notzach & moshiach now
MFH
The pictures seem to be taken at around 9:00 PM, which was a little bit after motzei y"t
They aren’t brisker peyos – if you think that they are, then you haven’t seen REAL brisker peyos – don’t know, all his brothers have them too (Although i’m not sure if mendel had them so thick, if at all)
gruntig
to flipping out, it’s not about more people or history it’s about the truth.
Why is everybody asking how did webby take the photos? obviously it was after nightfall and he said hamavdile.
true it still might be a small issue about taking pictures of people while they are still in yom tov.
ohlei torah`nik
TO WHAT
I will bring you a anser from this sicho(vol. 32 pp.24)the rebbe brings a story from the frierdiker rebbe about his father after the rebbe mahrash had past away that the rebbe rashab would go inside the rebbe mahrash`s room and it was still setup the way it was in his life time and he would go in there stand by the table and lips were moveing and he was crying
If you still do not have you`re anser i`m sorry i c`ant help you
NOTE:This is only a short part of a power full sicho
Fllippin- out
My dearest Gruntig,
I dont want to satrt talking about truth, I’m afraid i might be offending people like you and those main actors by those upstairs pic.’s, afterall we are on the Worl Wide Web, and like those folks, i’m afraid for PR, it won’t sound so nice for Lubavitch!
Second of all, Yasher Koach, i know-the truth (sorry, there’s too many opinions on that to list), we can argue about that for too long, and i dont realy have the time for that, i was talking about, from a journalistic point of view.
~n’eNow!~
Chosid
That was only the Frierdiker Rebbe who was able to communicate with his father. How can you compare us to the Frierdike Rebbe?
Extreme Anti Mishichist- Pro Chabad
To Flipping out:
First of all don’t flip out, take it easy, you do what you have to do and others will do their part. (If you are a Bocher GO LEARN. If you are a Bal-Habose go work, make money, and Support your family.
Thank g-d we are in a free country (Democratic country) Which means free speech to every one (of course with respect for each other) like you mention yourself there are other web-sites, so you have the free choice to go to any site at any given time you want to get all the different points of views and therefore come to your own decision.
And like someone farbragend on Shabbos (not getting in all the Details and not Tafhka about the mishichist issue) there is no such thing being in the middle (i.e. Chilled out) either your right or left, right or wrong. If you believe in something it has to be 100% you most be so sure of yourself that if someone calls you "BLATANTLY BIASED" you don’t get offended.
"And the children struggled together within her… And she went to inquire of the G-d… And the G-d said to her: ‘Two nations are in your womb.’ " (25:22-23)
QUESTION: Rashi explains: When Rivkah passed a house of Torah learning, Yaakov struggled to emerge. When she passed a place of idol worship, Eisav struggled to come out. This perplexed her, and she went to inquire about it. A message was conveyed to her through Shem that she was carrying two children.
Why did this information calm her?
ANSWER: The prophet Eliyahu held a debate with the false prophets of Ba’al during which he challenged them: "How long will you waver between two opinions. If Hashem is the G-d, follow Him! And if it is the Ba’al, follow him" (1 Kings, 18:21). One may wonder, how Eliyahu was able to utter such an option?
Eliyahu realized that before confronting a person, it is important to know what his convictions are. As long as a person is ambivalent, it is impossible to deal with him and guide him to the right path. After having his views clarified, then one can debate and endeavor to convince him.
At the outset, Rivkah thought she was carrying one child who was confused, unable to distinguish between right and wrong, and thus, G-d forbid, capable of running in a different direction each day. Informed that she would give birth to two children, she was relieved, because she could now hope to convince the other child to emulate his righteous brother.
(Very interesting Sicho on this.)
Know who you are (or trying to be) and what you stand for.
Don-tGetOffThePoint
It-s Me wrote:
"What’s up with Avremel’s Brisker payos?"
First of all what diffrents does it make?
What diffrents does it make what type of Yamika he is wearing, what type of hat etc…
What is your point?
And second (which really sould be first)
The Rebbe had the same "Brisker Payos".
{by the way I hope people don’t start takeing out there rulers to messer how big the Rebbes payos really wear, (just watch a video of the Rebbe and see for your self)
poshut bepashtus
Flippin-out writes:
‘Another observation:
I see that most of the pic’.s of upstair’s are centered around either of 2 pepople-R’ A. S. and R’ Y. K., hhhmmm”..are they the new "leaders"???’
I hate to break it to you, but these two individuals have been leaders of opinion amongst chassidim for decades. No one can doubt their credentials when analyzing their track records starting from their being chozrim as bochrim (being called in after Purim 5718 to repeat the farbrengen to the Rebbe) and going on through their myriad accomplishments in their respective fields and unique relationship with the Rebbe during decades (all this ‘besides’ the Rebbe appointing RAS as Yoshev Rosh Vaad Hapoel of Aguch).
(I mention the fact that both were chozrim because it shows the trust the Rebbe had in their ability to ACCURATELY capture the Rebbe’s words.)
It is obvious, then, why their farbrengen is more relevant and representative of the Rebbe than the circus that has invaded the Rebbe’s shul.
leible
To flippin out:
First get your facts straight, then complain.
Quote "There were 21 pic.’s of upstairs and 10 of downstairs" do you know how to count? there are 18 of upstairs and 12 of downstairs, now webby may have been there for a longer peered of time bec. it was more interesting, and then gone downstairs, I don’t think the moshiach seudah went on all night.(it just shows that when you want to prove a point, you cange fact, this time a small one, but for example the sicha wich is posted on the left wall in 770 about “yechi hamelech”, so they come to you with complaints how come you don’t say yechi, lechurah its a clear sicha of the Rebbe? however if one would sit down and learn the sicha they would shut-up and start saying ad mossay, the Rebbe says, that "YECHI HAMELECH" adds chayus,and "AD MOSSAI" includes “Yechi Hamelech" but cahs veshalom to bring the Rebbe’s words in context!)
Quote: "if there’s a room with 30 people and another with 800, I’d think a reporter would report more about the room of 800", but I must tell you that its a whole lot easer to report that of a room with 30, and if the with 30 was more to his interest, you cant have a grudge.
yosef
Dear flipping out – leave webby alone he does a good service for the community – and instead of counting pictures – perhaps you should do something productive to help klal yisrael instead of counting pictures…
Flippin- out
B"H
Hey Webby, you sound like your having some inner strugles recently, and that some sects are having an influence on your reporting:
Just an ineresting observation:
There were 21 pic.’s of upstairs and 10 of downstairs, now as far as i know downstairs seems to me like a bigger room i mean -thats pretty obvious, and my vision seems to tell me that there was alot more people downstairs then upstairs, AND, as far as i understand, the most recent Farbrengens we had with the Rebbe, were DOWNSTAIRS, NOT upstairs, so you have 1-Larger room, 2-ALOT more people, and 3-More historically important spot (I dont know if the Spokesman for LNS will come the same conclusion, but the facts are the facts) , so 1+1+1=3.
I come to the conclusion, that from a reporters point of view, there should be more reporting (in this case-pictures) of Downstairs, not only that, but the picture that is on the homepage is that of upstairs, hhmmm’….
,so now i have all of the above, plus….When you reported the Yud-Alef Nisan Farbrengen’s, i dont think (my memory tells me that you didnt)you even mentioned that there was a Farbrengen in 770 and i do know for sure that the feature picture on the homepage for that report was the Farbrengen in BR (and if i recall correctly, i dont think the rebbe ever farbrenged there)and BTW i’m sure your aware the the all these events are all revolving around the Rebbe, and the Rebbe farbrenged in ONE place =770 E.P.-just keep that in mind.
So,from all the above, an educated guess woud lead me to think that your on the verge of becoming biased Ch’V, like some other Lubavitch news sites (eg; COL, Chabad.info, Chabadnik- may it rest in peace). what was so unique (or so i thought) about your site was that your not biased and you report-like a reporter should ie; w/o any lean or bias, that does not mean that you shouldn’t report any farbrengen thats not in 770, but at least show priority to whats right, if there’s a room with 30 people and another with 800, i’d think a reporter would report more about the room of 800, or i can take the benifit of the doubt and say that in both cases above, you were ummm’ lets think, maybe …in a rush, and that’s why you couldn’t take more pictures (or in the case of BR, that you didnt take pictures or report at all of 770, but it just happen’s to be that i did see you at the 11 Nissan Farb’ in 770, so…), but the point is that just in the future please be ehemmmm’ if i’m allowed to say, a little more realistic, and in that way you can make everybody happy, which is why i think your site became in the first place, so succesful, so thank’s at least for reporting what you DID, and keep up the good work!
Another observation:
I see that most of the pic’.s of upstair’s are centered around either of 2 pepople-R’ A. S. and R’ Y. K., hhhmmm”..are they the new "leaders"???
Anyways,i, just like anybody else am sick of all the political conundrom, and hate the constant "dirty laundry" (which most of it is unfortunatly planted by selfish Lubavitchers themselves who only care about their PR), but i just had to write this comment-although i did try to keep as unpolitical as possobile, but thanks webby for entitling the public to voice their opinion—That’s blogging.
~n’eNow!~
Bochur
Avremel – welcome back to 770!
whoa
whoa
heshel mangel
i just have a question how do you take pictures an yom tov? if anybody knows the answer please send to me at yhm1995@aol.com
eli
how come R’ Yoel is not in the main Farbrengen?
What?
in the downstairs pictures, what was everybody looking towards one direction for?? what were they looking at?
1o
nice pic’s webby, but how did you take them on yomtov?
It-s Me
What’s up with Avremel’s Brisker payos?
question....
Stupid question people about how the pictures were taken on yom tov…use your imagination:)
stam a bochur
iy"h next year in (yerushalayim) the upstairs farbrengen will be downstairs with the rebbe and the donstairs lunatics
i.e. the tzfatim will have seudas moshiach in baghdad teikef imiyat mamash now amen
bibirkas didan notzach & moshiach now
MFH
The pictures seem to be taken at around 9:00 PM, which was a little bit after motzei y"t
They aren’t brisker peyos – if you think that they are, then you haven’t seen REAL brisker peyos – don’t know, all his brothers have them too (Although i’m not sure if mendel had them so thick, if at all)
gruntig
to flipping out, it’s not about more people or history it’s about the truth.
Why is everybody asking how did webby take the photos? obviously it was after nightfall and he said hamavdile.
true it still might be a small issue about taking pictures of people while they are still in yom tov.
ohlei torah`nik
TO WHAT
I will bring you a anser from this sicho(vol. 32 pp.24)the rebbe brings a story from the frierdiker rebbe about his father after the rebbe mahrash had past away that the rebbe rashab would go inside the rebbe mahrash`s room and it was still setup the way it was in his life time and he would go in there stand by the table and lips were moveing and he was crying
If you still do not have you`re anser i`m sorry i c`ant help you
NOTE:This is only a short part of a power full sicho
Fllippin- out
My dearest Gruntig,
I dont want to satrt talking about truth, I’m afraid i might be offending people like you and those main actors by those upstairs pic.’s, afterall we are on the Worl Wide Web, and like those folks, i’m afraid for PR, it won’t sound so nice for Lubavitch!
Second of all, Yasher Koach, i know-the truth (sorry, there’s too many opinions on that to list), we can argue about that for too long, and i dont realy have the time for that, i was talking about, from a journalistic point of view.
~n’eNow!~
Chosid
That was only the Frierdiker Rebbe who was able to communicate with his father. How can you compare us to the Frierdike Rebbe?
Extreme Anti Mishichist- Pro Chabad
To Flipping out:
First of all don’t flip out, take it easy, you do what you have to do and others will do their part. (If you are a Bocher GO LEARN. If you are a Bal-Habose go work, make money, and Support your family.
Thank g-d we are in a free country (Democratic country) Which means free speech to every one (of course with respect for each other) like you mention yourself there are other web-sites, so you have the free choice to go to any site at any given time you want to get all the different points of views and therefore come to your own decision.
And like someone farbragend on Shabbos (not getting in all the Details and not Tafhka about the mishichist issue) there is no such thing being in the middle (i.e. Chilled out) either your right or left, right or wrong. If you believe in something it has to be 100% you most be so sure of yourself that if someone calls you "BLATANTLY BIASED" you don’t get offended.
"And the children struggled together within her… And she went to inquire of the G-d… And the G-d said to her: ‘Two nations are in your womb.’ " (25:22-23)
QUESTION: Rashi explains: When Rivkah passed a house of Torah learning, Yaakov struggled to emerge. When she passed a place of idol worship, Eisav struggled to come out. This perplexed her, and she went to inquire about it. A message was conveyed to her through Shem that she was carrying two children.
Why did this information calm her?
ANSWER: The prophet Eliyahu held a debate with the false prophets of Ba’al during which he challenged them: "How long will you waver between two opinions. If Hashem is the G-d, follow Him! And if it is the Ba’al, follow him" (1 Kings, 18:21). One may wonder, how Eliyahu was able to utter such an option?
Eliyahu realized that before confronting a person, it is important to know what his convictions are. As long as a person is ambivalent, it is impossible to deal with him and guide him to the right path. After having his views clarified, then one can debate and endeavor to convince him.
At the outset, Rivkah thought she was carrying one child who was confused, unable to distinguish between right and wrong, and thus, G-d forbid, capable of running in a different direction each day. Informed that she would give birth to two children, she was relieved, because she could now hope to convince the other child to emulate his righteous brother.
(Very interesting Sicho on this.)
Know who you are (or trying to be) and what you stand for.
Don-tGetOffThePoint
It-s Me wrote:
"What’s up with Avremel’s Brisker payos?"
First of all what diffrents does it make?
What diffrents does it make what type of Yamika he is wearing, what type of hat etc…
What is your point?
And second (which really sould be first)
The Rebbe had the same "Brisker Payos".
{by the way I hope people don’t start takeing out there rulers to messer how big the Rebbes payos really wear, (just watch a video of the Rebbe and see for your self)
poshut bepashtus
Flippin-out writes:
‘Another observation:
I see that most of the pic’.s of upstair’s are centered around either of 2 pepople-R’ A. S. and R’ Y. K., hhhmmm”..are they the new "leaders"???’
I hate to break it to you, but these two individuals have been leaders of opinion amongst chassidim for decades. No one can doubt their credentials when analyzing their track records starting from their being chozrim as bochrim (being called in after Purim 5718 to repeat the farbrengen to the Rebbe) and going on through their myriad accomplishments in their respective fields and unique relationship with the Rebbe during decades (all this ‘besides’ the Rebbe appointing RAS as Yoshev Rosh Vaad Hapoel of Aguch).
(I mention the fact that both were chozrim because it shows the trust the Rebbe had in their ability to ACCURATELY capture the Rebbe’s words.)
It is obvious, then, why their farbrengen is more relevant and representative of the Rebbe than the circus that has invaded the Rebbe’s shul.
leible
To flippin out:
First get your facts straight, then complain.
Quote "There were 21 pic.’s of upstairs and 10 of downstairs" do you know how to count? there are 18 of upstairs and 12 of downstairs, now webby may have been there for a longer peered of time bec. it was more interesting, and then gone downstairs, I don’t think the moshiach seudah went on all night.(it just shows that when you want to prove a point, you cange fact, this time a small one, but for example the sicha wich is posted on the left wall in 770 about “yechi hamelech”, so they come to you with complaints how come you don’t say yechi, lechurah its a clear sicha of the Rebbe? however if one would sit down and learn the sicha they would shut-up and start saying ad mossay, the Rebbe says, that "YECHI HAMELECH" adds chayus,and "AD MOSSAI" includes “Yechi Hamelech" but cahs veshalom to bring the Rebbe’s words in context!)
Quote: "if there’s a room with 30 people and another with 800, I’d think a reporter would report more about the room of 800", but I must tell you that its a whole lot easer to report that of a room with 30, and if the with 30 was more to his interest, you cant have a grudge.
yosef
Dear flipping out – leave webby alone he does a good service for the community – and instead of counting pictures – perhaps you should do something productive to help klal yisrael instead of counting pictures…