In response to a letter publicized by Moshe Rubashkin chairman of the Vaad HaKohol that the council would shortly hold elections for Rabonim, a different member of the council, Chanina Sperlin publicized a copy of the Rebbe's handwritten reply opposing any involvement of the community council in appointing Rabonim.
In a special interview, Chanina Sperlin said he was surprised about the letter (presented here) in which the council attempts to appoint Rabbis despite the fact that this was clearly rejected by the Rebbe.
Chanina Sperlin intends to send out a letter of his own to members of the community and it can be seen in the Extended Article.
‘The Community Council is not to Deal with Appointing Rabonim’
In response to a letter publicized by Moshe Rubashkin chairman of the Vaad HaKohol that the council would shortly hold elections for Rabonim, a different member of the council, Chanina Sperlin publicized a copy of the Rebbe’s handwritten reply opposing any involvement of the community council in appointing Rabonim.
In a special interview, Chanina Sperlin said he was surprised about the letter (presented here) in which the council attempts to appoint Rabbis despite the fact that this was clearly rejected by the Rebbe.
Chanina Sperlin intends to send out a letter of his own to members of the community and it can be seen in the Extended Article.
maven
The original Vadd Hakohol was set up to be a shadow government and used the Rabbonim as thier puppets. Thier original agenda was to take over Rabbi Fischer’s buildings and then to use this gelt to then take over Chabad worldwide. Thank G-d, they were not successful in reaching these goals but they created decades of machlokes in the process. The Vaad Hakohol has always functioned as a shadow government using the Rabbonim to rubber stamp their activities. It seems Moshe Rubashkin is following in their power grabbing footsteps. The Vadd Hakahol has always tried to cover its true nature as a totally corrpted self interested group in a holy mask. It’s all about money and control, not about the Rebbe or the people.
Ploni
Horav Segal Shlita
As a former Talmid of Horav Segal I can attest to the fact that he is a tremendous Talmid Chochom and a Boki B’Shas U’Poskim.
On a personal note I can say that he is a real Mentch and a truly kind hearted person. I think the community in Crown Heights would benefit greatly if he were to become our Rov.
His tact and class would bring great prestige and honor to Lubavitch as well as to the Beis Din of Crown Heights and the community as a whole.
Personally seeing him adjudicate a Din Torah, using his very sharp mind to swiftly navigate through the arguments without missing a detail, quickly deciphering the positions of the two sides and getting to the core of things in a matter seconds, has only enhanced my appreciation for him.
A Former Talmid That Would Like To See Him Rov In Crown Heights
Chaim
but the rebbe said the netzigim should be the ones to deal with the elections (and only the elections as the rebbe stated clearly at the time) and in the letter from rubashkin he clearly says that the netzigim are invovled in drawing up a list of candinates. so whats the whole shturem?
Curious...?
So why would Rubashkin do such a thing?
And why then, was Sperlin involved in R. Schwei’s appointment?
Concerned Lawyer
People must realize that Chanina got the least amount of votes and causes the most trouble. He has tried to undermine everything the new Vaad (Rubashkin and Lang) have done.
It is high time that he was put aside once and for all.
As for the Netzigim. What are they????
If they represent shuls and are spokes people for the community, why are they not paying Mas Hakohol and being good role models for the rest of us to follow???
If they are a meaningless org. (which I believe they are) then who cares what plan they are trying to formulate. Trust me the minute they have a plan that Chanina does not like he will open his mouth. Save this letter for later on down the road.
As far as I know the Netzigim have been trying for a long time to get the financial books from the previous Vaad Hakohol, (the one run by Chanina and his cronies) to see where all the money they got from government grants was spent. Why has the Vaad not given this over after many requests???
Some mis spending by Chanina and co. in lawsuits against Fischer??? ($100,000’s + spent on court cases they lost one after another)
Chanina has officially opened a can of worms and I hope this time they will eat him up
Crown Heights Shlepper
Chanina is real cute. Didn’t he and Yankev Hertzog organize the election of Rabbi Schwei to the beis din? Did he just find religion? Moshe is not seeking to APPOINT anybody, just NOMINATE. Does old Chanina understand this? Let’s just hope he doesn’t get the jokers on the netzigim in on this fraud: that gang has no standing here!
Yuckster
And haven’t Sperlin and his brothers profited from the real estate scamming? When will the feds, the city, and the state close in on this farce? Yaacov Herzog is Sperlin’s partner in all this mess. He plead no contest to the crimes he commited before he was sent to the Vaad HaKahol. At least Rubashkin cares about people, that’s this priority. what a joke Crown Heights is to the rest of the city. Get Chanina out of the picture before he takes us all down.
Lost on Schenectady
The CHJCC bylaws provide no role for the Netzigim in rabbonim elections. You can look it up! Chaim- where did the Rebbe say anything about this? Please cite to a direct sicha, etc. in it’s entirety.
Sperlin and Hertzog are a barrel of pickles, that’s all.
Rubashkin is trying to do good. He says day, Sperlin says night. Rubashkin says licht, Sperlin says shvartz. Who’s the Chosid? Who’s the lamplighter? Who is the real Lubavitcher here?
Lost on Schenectady
Rubashkin is a lamplighter. Sperlin just sees schvartz and messes up. WHo is the real Lubavitcher?
Lost on Schenectady
I heard that Rubashkin gave a report on the books to most of the Netzigim at a meeting of about 19 of them and they were all happy about it. Sperlin and Hertzog never gave over a report and many think they profited for their businesses, all personal real estate. At least Rubashkin is in the meat business, and we all never get sick from Aarons best!!
maven
The Vaad Hakahol, the one that Chanina comes from spent hundreds of thousands, if not millions, over a twenty year period, in a fight against a fellow Jew, all for personal gain. This fight divided the community, created no results except for sinas chinam. Chanina and his cohorts will NEVER open their coffers because that would be a pandora’s box that would bring down a whole house of cards. He will continue to use the oldest trick in the book–when you are a gonif, accuse the other guy of being a gonif.
Chaim
Lost on Schenectady:
First off all do u think that everything the rebbe said is in a sicha? are you a closed minded meschist?
Second, there is clear written answers of the rebbe that the nitzigim are the ones to be involved in the appointing the rabbonim, and the rebbe told them to disband the netzigim after the elections.
if you want to see these letters, u can look in the kovtzim that came out during the hard years right after gimmel tammuz, i think it is in the kovetz haemes vehoasholom 2 or 3. its all in ksav yad (or groners copying of ksav yad – as it was the policy then that he would rewrite the rebbes answers).
if i get hold of a scan of the kovetz, i will forward it to the site admin for him to post.
get ur facts straight
att lost on schenec….
#1 get ur facts straight. i think u really r lost on schenec….u have no idea what goes on and rubashkin didnt give the netzigim any books cuz he doesnt consider them a group….maybe if u would read letters written by the other community members and not be blinded by rubashkin’s dictatorship ways u would realize u dont know a single thing going on!!!! rubashkin i hate to say this is the one who is looking for power gain and money in this whole disaster. yes he looks very good to the whole community but u obviously dont. u have no idea what the other community council members do day and night for this community. guaranteed if rubashkin wasnt on the board maybe ch would be a little safer cuz the chjcc could focus on that instead of trying to keep themselves their families and businesses still in ch. the rebbe has told the chjcc members countless times in the igros that they must run for the board because they can do something meaningful. and believe me i see waht they do…….it doesnt really make a diff how i know all of this but what im saying to all of u is if u really think rubashkin is such a great guy tell me this…….why r ppl against him???and dont say jealousy or money cuz that does not even come into the minds of the other members-just rubashkin
fellow crown heightser
why dont everyone just be happy that people care about our shchuna?
Moe
"get ur facts straight"
please dont say such blasphemy that the rebbe answered them from the igros. at best you can say that answers from the igros are hahsgacha pratis, but dont convince yourself anyhting!
(bifrat that the rebbe writes in a haaro in likutei sichos that nowadays it is not proper for us to get answers from seforim)
confused?
att: get ur facts straight
You make a good argument… but you don’t say much… all you do is make unsubstantiated allegations… Most ppl see the things Rubashkin DID do for the comm. for one shalom… no more two SBH… etc.
Under Chanina tenure not much good happened… I think he’s at the end of his game and is like fish out of the water in a last futile ditch effort flopping around in the mud… Chanian is just out to make the other guy look bad… If someone is doing good just stay out of the way… Chanina couldn’t even figure out how to do that!
TRM
As far as I know the nitigim should have been disbanded 20 years ago, right after the first election of the rabonim
Straight Shooter
Somebody writing earlier got it right on the target: Moshe says day, Chanina says night. Chanina has no life outside of thinking about how to get in politician’s photos. Moshe, for whatever faults, does want to help the community and has….Pesach helping bochurim…summer camp…keeping people from going under….Chanina’s Vaad was corrupt…they stole the leadership from Noochie Gross with the vote of the gonif Hertzog. Rabbi Osdoba’s regret was not to have the nietzigim impeach Hertzog.
It-s all Bube meises
Moshe Rubashkin "ran" on the platform that he will bring shalom to the Bais Din……. Has he done that yet!?!?
There are 3 Rabbonim…… I think if we needed more then 3 the Rebbe would have seen to it when we had the "original" elections. How does this work? you keep on electing Rabbonim untill you find ones that will "give" you the answer your looking for?
someone who is againts machlokos
one thing is for sure that what is happening here isn’t helping the situation what we need is moshiach and through sinas chinam and talking loshon hora definantly isn’t helping him come.
so if anybody really cared they would shut up and do whatever is in their power to correct this problem by doing acts of good deeds and kindness to help bring moshiach.
for the -hood
lets get Noochie Gross back in and Chanina out!
OT Bochur
Ploni,
as a curent student of harav segal, i second all that you said.
Yukel
Chanineh Chanineh..oy vey