Jewish and Black Teens Pen Cookbook
The New York Daily News ran an article in their paper about Jewish and black teens in Crown Heights teaming up to write a cookbook.
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A Crown Heights Female Resident
I’m very happy these girls have a successful project, but by printing this article CH.info is only encouraging and implicitly giving credence that it’s perfectly acceptable to (and even something to aspire) a) be a “less observant” Lubavitcher and b) to go around dressed as un-tsnius as the women in this photograph.
I am shocked that B’nos Chomesh has students who walk around dressed this way. If your school is named for the Rebbetzin Chaya Mushka, how can your students live up to that when they are not dressed as a chassida of the Rebbe should be dressed?
I am disappointed in CH.info. Surely you could have run this article without the photograph or cropped the photograph more appropriately.
sickatating!!!!!!!
i cant even tell which ones are the jews!!
Don-t be so quick to attack!
The first girl to the left is dressed perfectly tzniusdikly. Maybe she’s the one from Chomesh. Ahavas Yisrael first, tznius second = al tadin et chavercha – you don’t know their situations in life.
Supporter
Wow. “Sickatating” isn’t even a word – but if it were, the “sickitating” thing is the lack of tolerance for our African-American neighbors that exists in Crown Heights. Yes, there have been several incidences of crime perpetrated by African-Americans in the community, but there are also crimes perpetrated by Chabadniks and Jews in general anywhere. I think that most CHers lump all of our non-Jewish neighbors into the same category as the criminals and treat them as such. I always make a habit to say hello to my Jewish as well as non-Jewish neighbors – and I’ve been met with surprise by the latter group on many occasions. We need to follow the example of these girls and engage with our neighbors to form a stronger community. It doesn’t matter how “frum” the girls are – if they are happy, secure, kind people (and adults, by the way, at 18) and are bolstering the community by setting an example of the importance of peaceful, productive coexistance, who are we to judge them? In fact, who are we to judge them at all? That is not our place. Our job in this world is to love one another – and that applies to everyone. Yes, some people feel it important to encourage others to be stronger in their observance – but if these young women are educated in Jewish observance, raised in a frum community and aware of the demands of a chassidishe life and still choose another path, it’s not worth it to try to push them, ostracize them or denigrate them. Focus on the good that they do. Yasher Koach to all of them.
Some people are never happy.
It’s a shame how quick people are to complain. I think it’s a great idea and am going to but the cook book once available just to encourage ideas like this.
Old Bubby
To #1: Talk about judgmental! Wait till you’re older and more mature to make such pronoucements. Hopefully, you’ll mellow. By the way, don’t believe everything you read in the press.
Dont believe what you read.
Mariasha Jacobs does not go to Bnos Chomesh.
Proud Teacher in Bnos Chomesh
Bnos Chomesh does not support a program like this is any way. If Bnos Chomesh would have known about this, the administration would have never ever let them be a part of it.
It is true that Mariasha does not go to our school.
ybs
The girl on the left is the program coordinator and not only dressed tzniusdik but also overflowing with love and dedication for these girls and many thousands of other women she has inspired over the years.
It is because of people like her who don’t attack the girls who – for whatever reason- are not on the same level as others, but embrace them with love and show them a living example of how you can be ‘good’ and happy that we keep these children.
If only there would be more people like her the world would be a better place.
Bnos Chomesh isn’t a mainstream school but a school that would have prevented a lot of heartache if it would have been around 30 years ago.
? who cares
I agree with 1. and 3.
This is for Crown heights.info, you are helping along with our problems when you don’t pick and choose what you print.Please think more carefuly not every story of interest needs to be here and not every part or picture etc. We need a more safe place to read our news.
long term reader reader of this site
Read about bnos chomesh here:
http://www.crownheights.inf…
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tznius is not about ahavas israel its about Halocho. Is she respecting the halocho? Would you berpoud to present your soldiers not dressed properly to another king? I dont think so.
Think about it.
DFFFSDFSDFSFSD
You all need to REALLY GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anonymous
To comment #1 & 2 -Who are you to judge these girls? Are you G-d’s personal judging assistant. Were you directed by G-d to judge. Doesn’t it say in Perkei Avot “Don’t judge until you have been in that persons place….”
I am not writing to justify these girls but rather as a response to the consistent judging done here in every article which features people from our community that don’t fit a particular “profile”.
As a chosid of the Rebbe, I take to heart what he taught us about Ahavat Yisroel – that we should love our fellow jew just because and that includes not judging them for what they are or not just celebrating them for the fact that they are one of us!
The Guy with the Dog
Get a grip, people. There were some nice things in this article as well.
aholom
to all you complaining about the article and pic: you completely missed the point. these girls should be commended for reaching out in an attempt to erase racial divisions that exist amongst neighbors. for all our differences we’re actually remarkably alike. we all eat and we all have grandmothers. so to all of you so offended then i suggest you just keep moving because no one suggested that its ok to dress a certain way. your children shouldn’t have free access to the internet and newspapers and if they do then believe me you’ve got a lot more to be worried about. its time you taught your children what these girls are trying to teach you. tolerance despite differences. were more alike than you can imagine.
ch mother
what is the purpose of this article?
to encourage our kids to do what?
this is not what we want from our kids
the photo should not have been published
I don”t think the Torah approves of publishing such a photo
Shmuli
To number 1 & 2:
What are you doing to make the world a better place? Oh, I am sure that you do lots of Mitzvos and daven with lots of Kavana. Oh, and you learn Chitas, 3 Perokim Rambam, Inyonei geulo umoshiach and Chassidus every day. You probably also find some time every day to do Mivtzoim and make a Kiddush Hashem (which btw these girls are actually doing). You can also invite these girls to your house for Shabbos, although I’m pretty sure they have better homes to go to.
My point being, if you are trying to make the world a better place, you’re not doing a great job! Find another way to do it.
Mushky Pinson
I’m shocked. To commenters 1 and 2, you are sadly defeating the Rebbe’s whole attitude of Ahavas Yisroel.
Bnos Chomesh is a school for girls who are “out of the box” and if they read your hurtful comments, they will not only be “out of the box”, but out of the Schunah, as well.
Please don’t chase them out, bring them in, whether super-tznius or not.
“Oihev es Habrios”, “love the creations” before you “u’mikarvan La’Torah”, “bring them close to Torah”.
Message to the girls: Great Job! Don’t let these comments get you down.
pessimests
why do u people alwys have 2 see the bad in stuff.
to #1 & #2
what in the wide world of bigots is wrong with you people?! Why do you HATE on people who are not like you? Get a grip and get a LIFE.
Relax
The point is these girl did a great mitzvah and made a great Kidush Hashem. Dont criticize u nvr know there story.
Himmel Geshrey
Even though I truly admire the idea of these girl’s having a focus, They are an embarassment to their families,and schools. It would be a good idea to remove this article, orat least block out the extremely not tzniusdike picture, if you are putting this on a frum crown heights website
mother of 12
wow this is so nice!
very surprised & dismayed
#1 says it as it is. I understand B’nos Chomesh doesn’t teach secular subjects (only Math, their English curriculum is heavily sanitized) but collaborating on a cookbook (tasting the recipes???) is OK?
not frum from birth
Modesty is not only a matter of dress but about how we guard not only our eyes and ears, but our thoughts. Are we constantly condemning and judging others in our minds or are we spending our precious life-energy working on our OWN midot and our OWN modesty of character?
Surely these girls will flower far more successfully with your love. Your judgment will only make them run away.
It’s a beautiful thing these girls did and important for the safety & success of Crown Heights. I say yasher koach to them! And I hope that I can also accomplish something as bold as that to bring shalom to the world and to bring Meshiach closer!
Happy they did it, too bad only them
Nice aritcle, Nice idea, too bad only the non-tzniusdick of Crown Heights had such a great idea.
great idea.
but if we had more-tzniusdike girls we could feel better represented. (i’m not putting them down as people!)
chasidit
you know, these jewish/chabad girls will be very hurt when they see most of your comments. Thats really what counts.
Would the Rebbe say some of those hurtful things? Do the mothers really want this? At lease they are doing something productive, not like some girls who are really off the derech.
YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY IN PUBLIC BUT NEGATIVE CRITICISM ON OUR OWN GIRLS?
The next girl who is having trouble with their yiddishkeit could be your own relative…..
oh, but you’ll give her alot of support. Not like these girls, who you don’t know, so with your lack of Ahavas Yisrael you can easily detach and just put them down.
Well, thats an interesting way to deal with this.
I would not say its productive though.
Pathetic People
I am ashamed to live next to pretty much everyone who commented. Bravo to the girls, maybe a little “soul food” will help you bitter commentators.
Anonymous
All this obsessive talk/focus about elbows and knees is NOT modest. Why? Because it’s materialistic and it’s objectifying. It’s shameful and immature to point out these things and says more about those who notice it than those they’re talking about.
I wouldn’t have even realized what the girl was wearing but for the comments.
Girls: You did a GREAT job. :)
Proud Chabad (=Tzniusdig) girl !
No one is condemning the girls, we love them care for them, and pray for their returning fully “Lavihem Shbashomayim”
But girls who are one that level should not be hangin out with gentiles, no matter what color, mitzvah goreres…….
Chabad cares for all, but please do not try to assimilate our holy neshomos.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
VDAL
To number 26
Why are you so shocked that the girls might have tasted the recipes? For all you know the recipes were made with Kosher food. As BT my wife and I have taken MANY non-kosher recipes and most shockingly of all simply made them with Kosher ingredients. Or are you more upset that our girls might have eaten with non Jews vs. being served by them?
ohev habrios
WAY TO GO MUSHKY AND MENUCHA, WE ARE ALL SO PROUD OF WHAT YOU’VE DONE. CAN’T WAIT TO GET MY HANDS ON A COPY OF THE NEW COOKBOOK.
P.S. DO YOU SHIP TO THE UK?
TO ALL THE HATERS, GO HOME, RELAX AND HAVE SOME FRUIT OR SOMETHING.
Kol hakavod!
Good job girls keep it up! glad we have some future in the peace realm!
All those people spewing bad talk, you’re the reason theres what to talk about. Maybe if our communities would show more love and respect, we’d get it back.
Lets appreciate that we have teens doing something good with their time – while others are wasting it watching and playing filth all day.
And lets thank Bnos Chomesh for being there for the girls who don’t fit well in the regular chabad school system.
Supporter
It’s so refreshing and nice to see people supporting these wonderful girls. To those of you who say that they should not be hanging out with gentiles, I find that disgusting. Jews and non-Jews are people. The same. Perhaps we have different religious practices, but we’re all people – and people eat. We may eat different foods or prepare them differently, but food is something that really brings people together. Let’s not focus on what separates us, but rather what can unite us. IF those girls (and I am not saying they do, but rather if ANYONE) choose not to follow a particular, even “conventional” path, that’s their choice. Let’s love them as people for their creativity, love for fellow man and woman, and unique contributions as human beings to society. As for what they are wearing in the pictures, I think each person in the photographs looks wonderful. Remember, the most important thing we can do is show kindness. Period.