CROWN HEIGHTS, Brooklyn [CHI] — CrownHeights.info has learned that Crown Heights store owners will not be making the Mishpacha Magazine available for sale this week, this in response to the attack the magazine published on Chabad in an interview.
The stores participating are Kahan’s, Kol-tuv/Empire Kosher, Post-Mark-It and The Shuk.
Mishpacha Magazine not Available in Crown Hts
CROWN HEIGHTS, Brooklyn [CHI] — CrownHeights.info has learned that Crown Heights store owners will not be making the Mishpacha Magazine available for sale this week, this in response to the attack the magazine published on Chabad in an interview.
The stores participating are Kahan’s, Kol-tuv/Empire Kosher, Post-Mark-It and The Shuk.
Storeowners said that this is more of a message we are trying to send the publishers that such things will not be tolerated.
yosef
they wont well that but they will sell all
the goyishe magazines with prizus!?
me
thank u! very smart decission!!!
eli
now they are scared.LOL..they sold less the 45 copies alltogther in CH.
we need to get rid of the mashchistin. that will be the real message.
To Mishpacha:
United We Stand
United We Fall
Mess with Chabad
And your business will stall
bit stupid
The dumb thing is that this week will probably be all the apologies which we won’t even be able to read – oh well! it’s nice to see though that eveyone is ready to stand up for the name of LUbavitch!
boucher from O.T. 73----76
ashraicham to all the store owners ,G-d bless them 4 sticking up 4 the REBBA and lubavitch in over the world, they should tell the mag, to shove it 4 good. that would be a good lesson 4 the other anti jewish paper yated not so naimon.
Dan
I commend all the stores involved…. I think it should not be available until there is a written apology in the magazine… otherwise keep it in flatbush where it belongs
Continue this boycott
Good move.
To be truly effective, this boycott must be maintained (and not only by Crown Heights merchants – but by Lubavitch sympathizers worldwide)until Misphocha makes either a retraction or apology, or both.
write your protest
If you want to make a difference, email the editor about your outrage.
http://mishpacha.com/letter…
Perhaps if they see a bunch of letters, they might respond. Selling 50 copies less this coming week will not make a difference to them.
Find out firsthand
Why dosn’t someone simply call up rabbi belsky in a nice and respectful manner without trying to bash him and keeping an open mind, and ask him firsthand why he said comments which smack of sinas chinom?
Anti Anti mashchist
eli your ignorance on the matter is apparent by stating “we need to get rid of the mashchistin. that will be the real message.” if you read the article you would know what was printed and would understand that it was an affront to lubavitch as a whole!
curious
i would like to read the article,
could it be posted?
Dovid
A boycott needs to be organized by all Lubavitchers of all advertisers in the mishpacha magazine untill Mispacha retracts and denounces the words of Belsky quoted in their magazine
happy
Just by the way i see for the past 3-4 years all over crownheight a auction from an org.oorah do,s anyone know who they are. THANK YOU
The facts are thus!!
To the message which says get rid of the Meshchistin. This person fails to understand the misnagdim hate ALL of Chabad and they don’t differentiate between Meshchistin and the antis.
Right now they us the Meshchisten and condemn them. Before Gimmel Taamuz they hated Chabad just as much.
Ashreinu ma Tov Chelkaynu and we shouln’t be gores one iota what the misnagdim do or say.
john
i mean really since when did not selling make a difference they ship worldwide! even the Algemeiner ships worldwide this is stupid there needs to be shluchim make fone calls to the editors of mishpacha and tell them that they are asking for trouble when they mess with a very important community such as Anash and they should now have to interview a lubavitcher like lipskar or someone of the like
Minsk
Has anyone heard of tircha d’tzibura? Now we all need to buy the Mishpacha magazine outside of the shchuna! That is an unneccesary tircha on the tzibur. In fact, now we MUST buy the magazine if only to see reaction in the Letters to the Editor, (especially if someone we know sent in a letter). I am sure in Chelem they would have come up with a better solution.
In the Hood
Pssst, ya you, ya wanna buy this magazine…sha, quiet, don’t attract any attention…just meet me in the alley…and don’t complain if some pages are torn, just be happy dat you will have a copy and can yap about it in da mikva
Looney Tunes
“The stores participating are Kahan’s, Kol-tuv/Empire Kosher, Post-Mark-It and The Shuk” – and the stores that are NOT participating are…What is this? The Soviet Onion? Will there be goon squads checking which stores do or don’t sell the magazine? Will we start boycotting the stores that sell the magazine? Not allow those owners into shul? Kick their kids out of our schools? Let the MADDNESS continue!!
Still Laughing
If you want to have a good laugh, check out – http://en.wikipedia.org/wik…
I saw it and I’m still laughing!
CooKoo
The inmates are running the asylum. The monkeys operate the zoo. And we have lost our minds.
There were many disparaging and offensive articles in various media reports on Chabad and Crown Heights issues. There are many N.Y. Times editorials that are clearly against Eretz Yisroel. Yet, has ANYONE thought that we should ban the sale of the N.Y. Times from any C.H. store? (Without getting into the issue if such papers should be sold in yiddishe stores and brought into yiddishe homes).
I read the Mishpocha magazine. So does my wife and kids. I don’t agree with the statements made by some people in one published article – yet the magazine remains welcome in my home.
But some hot heads decided that it is smart to ban the magazine from our local stores. And the herd mentality makes all the bhaymos follow.
The inmates are running the asylum.
FED UP
WITH FRIENDS LIKE ELI WHO NEEDS ENEMIES. WE ARE OUR WORST ENEMY. I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE MAGAZINE WROTE ABOUT LUBAVITCH BECAUSE I ALWAYS FELT IT WAS NOT VERY FOND OF LUBAVITCH, AND MY ALIGANCE FOR LUBAVITCH MEANS MORE TO ME THAN THAT MAGAZINE AND THAT IS THE ATTITUDE ANY AND EVERY LUBAVITCHER SHOULD HAVE. AND IT’S HIGH TIME TO FORGET THE STUPIDITY WITH CALLLING NAMES (LIKE MISHICHISTEN) TO OUR OWN PEOPLE. THE OUTSIDE WORLD DOESN’T RESPECT YOU MORE FOR SHOWING SUCH DISDAIN FOR YOUR OWN PEOPLE. ON THE CONTRARY THEY LOOK DOWN ON ALL OF US BECAUSE OF IT.
ceo
besides being inappropriate, and Lashon Hara-dik, it was just a cheap piece of writing which was beneath Mishpacha’s level of quality so they deserve to lose business.
I personally have a subscription so there’s nothing I can do, but I probably won’t re-subscribe. I don’t feel I am represented when Chabad (which is who I am) is misrepresented and has had false information printed in a very simple and uninformed manner. That Rabbi did not know what he was talking about and Mishpacha was not smart to use a cheap shot uninformed Rabbi. Big name or not, he comes across uninformed.
Question is that the word is out that he knows Boymelgreen?
TO ELI
To Eli: (AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO NEEDS TO HEAR THIS:)
You need to stop saying stupid things like that. That will be the real message.
Stop putting your 2 cents that involves politics. If we stop fighting each other and stop saying things about getting rid of our fellow brothers because we are not comfortable with their views, THAT is when people will stop saying terrible things about Chabad and they’ll be jealous that we can have unity despite our differences. After all, we are brothers.
One of the few things we really want to show when we boycott Yidden is that we won’t tolerate sinas chinam (or saying bad things about each other, our fellow Yidden. If you want to portray that at all, then stop talking that way.
Or are you just mad that they say things against Lubavitch. Why do you think they are saying these things? Because of how we treat each other (chilul Hashem)
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. (and respect each other PLEASE).
I am in between and i respect both groups UNTIL they start acting immature and saying things like that.
I hope you and everyone else gets the message.
Mishpacha getter and lover
well there will still be all those ppl who get it delivered to their home!!!! like us!!!!!
Y Mendelson
Its ridiculous that we expect the whole world to agree with us. What do you want? That Belsky shouldn’t think what he thinks? that Mishpacha should hide the fact that Belsky thinks it!?
While it is possible that these ideas were conceived and reported in the interest of pure machlokes, it is more likely that this is what he honestly believes & as such he has every right to express it.
If he has influence and he beleives that there is a mistaken shita out there that his mushpoim may be attracted to, he feels that he is obligated as a mashpia to say his de’ah. I would do the same if the roles were reversed.
This desperate and paranoid response only turns what could be an honest discussion about our shita into a cycle of sinas chinom. So someone thinks we’re crazy. Relax! Even Hashem said “one who wishes to err will err” Bereshis Rabba 8,8
??????
funny, i was in kul tov bout ten min ago and it was right there on the shelf by the checkout!!
YSchier
Wrong move. It would be much better if these stores were to remove and return to the suppliers all OU products where there is an alternative, run sales on the alternatives, and place bold red or yellow warning signs near products where there is no alternative. There is far more of a reason to boycott OU products than there is to continue the boycott of CRC (Satmar) products these days.
If it were not for Mishpacha, we would not know just what kind of a baal machloikes and sinas chinam the OU relies upon for psak on kashrus issues. Quite a few “Litvishers” and “Oilamishers” are just as outraged at his statements as we are and this extremism is leading to a lot of expressions of support and hakaras hatov for Lubavitch.
Mishpacha basically served to uncover a serious problem in the OU and we should thank them for it and continue to buy this magazine, which is one of the better haimishe publications out there.
Radio Simcha
Thank you for your letter to Mishpacha Magazine.
We realize from the many letters we have been receiving from readers, that
parts of the article, “Burning Issues of Charedi Jewry”, caused some
misunderstanding among our readers regarding the magazine’s attitude towards
Chabad.
As is well known, Mishpacha Magazine offers wide coverage on the activities
of Chabad and their shluchim located throughout the entire world. Our clear
and oft-stated policy is to value all streams of Orthodox Judaism and treat
all of them fairly and respectfully. Mishpacha will continue to stand by its
policies now and in the future.
We regret any unpleasantness that occurred.
Sincerely,
Editorial Board
Mishpacha Magazine
Tel: (972) 077 20 20 500
Fax: (972) 077 20 20 501
info@mishpacha.com
http://www.mishpacha.com
ACHDUS OF ALL LUBAVITCHER CHASSIDIM
Everyone ALL CHASSIDIM of THE REBBE. should cancel their subscriptions and MISHPACHA should publish an apology otherwise it should be banned completely in CROWN HEIGHTS or any PLACE A CHOSID IS IN
.
confused
Are you all not ashamed to be so petty. What happended to freedom of speech.
All I ever hear in Crown Hts is people bashing each other but if somebody else says anything, well…
I have lived in Crown Hts for 5 years and see a community in real crisis – its time to stop worry about what others say and ask maybe they have a point??
Mishpacha reader on other weeks
“?????? wrote:
funny, i was in kul tov bout ten min ago and it was right there on the shelf by the checkout!!”
Last week’s or this week’s? The boycott only applies to the new issues which is usually delivered Tuesday evening. What’s on the front cover? Those who are joining in the the boycott are doing so out of unity – to show that we are united. I don’t think for a second that they’ll miss the $$$$$ from the 300 copies (between Eng and Heb) they sell in CH a week. That’s not the point. The point is that hopefully they will be a bit more sensitive in the future about what gets through the editing department.
As for the person who feels it is a tircha to get the magazine now – well why don’t you join the rest of us who have taken upon ourselves not to read it for one week. I’m sure the apologies (if there are to be any) or letters to the editor regarding this issue will not be in this week’s issue anyway.
I wrote a letter to Mishpacha, as did many other folks that I know, and they replied back with this:
Thank you for your letter to Mishpacha Magazine.
We realize from the many letters we have been receiving from readers, that parts of the article, “Burning Issues of Charedi Jewry”, caused some misunderstanding among our readers regarding the magazine’s attitude towards Chabad.
As is well known, Mishpacha Magazine offers wide coverage on the activities of Chabad and their shluchim located throughout the entire world. Our clear and oft-stated policy is to value all streams of Orthodox Judaism and treat all of them fairly and respectfully. Mishpacha will continue to stand by its policies now and in the future.
We regret any unpleasantness that occurred.
Sincerely,
Editorial Board
Mishpacha Magazine
I personally have never seen articles about shluchim but I have no clue what’s in the Hebrew as I only read the English.
frank
To fed up.we are our worst enemys sad to say. and its sad to also say its not changing each man for himself. its not somethink new that were hated its just like the world hating the jews why because we have so much to live for we have rich lives. LIVE AND LET LIVE
MJ
Whenm Yehuda Schwartz attacked Chabad in the late ’80s in his Jewish Press column, there was a boycott until the newpaper strongly apologized; it bemoaned the distress that it had caused its Chabad readers, praised the Rebbe as one of the greatest gedolim, and ran a 2-page spread lauding Chabad!
bruchale
I have a subscription, anyone who’s interested to follow the stories that end with: to be continued… just gimme a call!
to ELI a chabad misnagid?
Wow just look at what Eli wrote what sinas chinom!
Get this, the misnagdim attack us not because of the mishechistim, they attack us because WE HAVE A REBBE, did you read the article?
First its Tefilin, then Neshek, and now Yichi.. But its all just excuses for the real thing they hate, and that’s what the article shows, THEY HATE THE REBBE! AND CAN’T STAND OUR CONECTION TO HIM!
Please don’t be like the misnagdim!
Give benefit of doubt
Belsky just misunderstands what Chabad is. So what? The other rabbis spoke decently. Take it, as the Baal Shem Tov taught us, as there is a reason this message appears world wide. What can each of us do to continue our own avoda as a chassid? That’s what counts. Not magazine articles.
Take a moment.............
Let’s just take a moment and reflect on what our Rabbeim have said on such issues in the past.
Back in the days of the Alter Rebbe, when the misnagdim caused much more harm and with much more malicious intent, to the chassidim, and the chassidim wanted to retaliate, or at least defend themselves the Alter Rebbe was opposed to doing so.
The Alter Rebbe said it would just fuel the flames to cause more trouble. We just have to pity the uninformed, that they make judgements based on loshon hora,etc.
one day soon they’ll do teshuvah, until then let’s daven for them……..
to YSchier
YSchier said we should not buy OU products, just as we don’t buy CRC’s.
sorry, but there is a MAJOR difference between not liking (hating) chabad, and going against Halocho.
the reason we don’t buy CRC foods is because after the attack on R.P.K., the Rabbonim of Satmar didn’t protest explaining “we are to scared”, well if a Rov is scared of the community, who knows what else he is letting go on checked.
this is not the case here, over here were talking about standing up for the Rebbe’s Kovod, not an Halochic issue.
Put your boycott where your mouth is
What a bunch of wimps! Deciding to boycot a magazine! If anyone has any guts we should boycott all OU products. Who’s ready to make this sacrifice for the sake of the Rebbe and Chassidim? Stand up and be counted! Which store is ready not to sell OU products? (I mean food stores, not hardware stores). In military terms, you guys picked a “soft target”, the easy route of going a few shabbosim without Mishpocha, but is anyone committed enough to go the distance and boycott OU? Na, I didn’t think so!
Avraham
Go to any Shpitz chabad gathering/farbrengen/shiur and you will hear all kinds of “lovely” things said about Mussar, “gedolim”, misnagdim, litvish, yeshivish etc. and that’s fine, because we’re right and their wrong!!! What’s wrong? Don’t like to get what you give??????
I hear Lubavitcher Rabbonim/shluchim talk about how mussar is no good whatsoever and attacks on everyone else besides Chabad and chassidus and that no one else has it right in any way, shape or form. I was told by one Rabbi that he is DISGUSTED that there are people who use a becher with a stem or who say na’aritzcha instead of Keser!!!!! DISGUSTED?????? And then we complain when someone says something about us and our hashkafa???????
The fact is, if you put yourself on such a pedestal, then there is no question that people are going to throw stones!!!
I am a full card carrying, chassidus learning, kapote wearing Chossid, but I will refuse to be sucked in to this neverending circle of sinah that is happening!!!! I have had regular shiurim at Young Israel shuls, litvishe shuls, modern orthodox schools etc. and have the utmost respect for all the people who are following their derech in the spirit of “minhag avoseinu b’yodeinu”. Do I want to teach them chassidus? Of course I do, because I love the Jew, not because I hate their derech!!!
When all of you who are crying foul to this and not seeing it as a Rabbi’s right to speak out as he sees fit, without being scared of reaction, (which is very much lacking in Judaism today), to quote Rodney King “why can’t we all just get along?”
to eli
rember it is the omer now and R’ Akivahs’ students died due to Sinas Chinum. So, cut out this attitude
you just don-t get it!!
it’s amazing how some people just don’t get it! he wasn’t talking about the mishichistin (for all of you who are saying that this is all their fault and we should get rid of them), he was talking about the Rebbe. he was against the rebbe since day one!
avidreader
im just wondering why Mishpacha decided to ask a question specifically regaurding Chabad in the first place they didnt ask questions on any other sect or type… why us?
avidreader
im just wondering why Mishpacha decided to ask a question specifically regaurding Chabad in the first place they didnt ask questions on any other sect or type… why us?
Confused
Let me get this straight – we are all upset that Mishpocha published the views of there 3 rabbis. The views of these 3 rabbis were subsequently published on Crown Heights Info, Shmais, and Chabad On Line – but that’s okay, because the republishing was simply to inform us of what was published in Mishpocha. But Mishpicha was not supposed to publish those views even though the magazine is informing us of these rabbis views. As such, Mishpocha is the villian, while Crown Heights News, Shmais, and COL are the heros…sorry, I am confused.
NOT a wimp
2 Put your boycott where your mouth is:
My parents happen to be part of this boycott, and they r not wimps!!
YSchier
The reason I advocate not buying OU products is that the OU in general is a responsible organization and if they see they are losing the HUGE Chabad market they will fire their so-called posek.
CRC today is a non issue; never mind that BH the friction between us and Satmar is gone, but there is hardly a CRC product that does not carry another hashgocho, such as OK or Udvar or Debrecen, as well.