A 10-year-old punk attempted to hold up a Jew at gunpoint this morning, and not only did the police not file a report, they refused to chase him down!
Police Refuse to Arrest a Juvenile Mugger
A 10-year-old punk attempted to hold up a Jew at gunpoint this morning, and not only did the police not file a report, they refused to chase him down!
This troubling and upsetting incident took place this morning at around 7:30am on Montgomery Street and New York Avenue where the little pipsqueak walked up to Reb Yisrolik Shemtov with his hand in his pocket, and demanded that he turn over his money ‘or else’.
Shemtov, fearing that the little punk did indeed have a gun, spotted a police car and yelled out to them and the would be mugger fled. After hearing what happened the cops refused to chase down the little punk and instead called for a sergeant, who classified the incident as harassment only – an offense which does not merit an arrest.
“If someone tried to stab another person with a knife, but misses is it not attempted murder?” asked Shemtov, “the intent is still there, and it is just as serious of an offense.”
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POLICE!! PLEASE UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON YOU HAVE TO AT LESAT STOP THE BOY AND HIS PARENTS WHY IN THE WEORLD DO YOU LET THEM GO AWAY????? WHAT A SHAME A TERRIBLE THING HAPPENING IN CH! SHAME SHAME SHAME! we need Moshiach already! havnt we suffered enough?
WrathofG-d
This is a tragedy, but so is a Jew after so many years of the opposite being the case, thinking that we can rely on the Government solely to protect him and his family.
I suggest instead that in addition to putting pressure on the local authorities to do something, the Crown Heights Jewish community learn to defend themselves, take self-defense classes en masse, and obtain (although difficult in NY) a license to carry a gun (and know how to use one).
That way, the next time the 10 year old punk tries to mug a Jew, the Jew can defend himself and hold the perp until the cops show up.
yossele der shiker
well imagine if reb yisroel shemtov would have defended himself… he would have been arrested for hitting a child etc etc . and with his past…
i hope he filed a complaint against the police and have internal affairs check this out
we need to put cameras on all our houses so that when thigs happen we have proof..
lloyd a cohen
I agree with you #2, but this is Bloomberg’s city and he feels that any one that tries to defend himself, especially with a gun, is worse then the criminal and then there is the other problem the judges who will most lilkely not do anything anyways. It is time to apply pressure to the city and to the state governor and attorney general. This type of behavior cannot be allowed. The police are there to enforce the law and to protect those who follow the law.
Upset
Why aren’t we protesting????????????
INSANE
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU DUMB POLICE!
wow
Shame is right! The police are sending a message to the black youth that there are no consequences due to his age. What is that? That is not ok!
Happens all the time
Ignoring simply doesn’t make sense. It only causes trouble for everyone including the police at a later time.
an Indian without a Chief
Who is representing the community? Who can you turn to? Maybe one of the “big time” Lubavitcher-publicity-seekers knows how to fix a problem in his own daled amos?
Gunpoint?
The article states his hand was in his pocket, and Shemtov feared he had a gun. Doesn’t mean he did. Also, nobody knows how old he was since he wasn;t caught.
(I am not defending, I believe this kid should have been arrested) Just it is misleading to read something like this and then the article counterclaims it.
awacs
“and obtain (although difficult in NY) a license to carry a gun”
Difficult? In NYC, try impossible – unless you’re either rich or famous – or Abner Louima (he got a carry permit as part of his settlement with the City). If you know different, please let me know. :-)
omg
this is not ok
awacs
Did Reb YS go to CCRB? If not, then he’s showing by his actions that it’s ok. The police ONLY respond to pressure.
TZIVIA PEKKAR.
B.H.
How comes that the Police completely ignored this situation. This kid should have been arrested and brought to his parents, and also to appear in juvenile court. By letting him get away, the police are encouraging bigger problems in the future. The Police have no seichel.
ceo
make sure that this story is widely publicized. they somehow need to be shamed into doing their jobs the right way. How absurd.
chana
We all know the truth- blocking pedestrian traffic is indeed a grave offense. Summons should not have been enough to teach those criminals. But innocently walking up to a person and threatening to end their life? Because they want some $$ ? Our precious police don’t have time to waist on such insignificant acts.
chana setton
so now heubners 10 y/o son is starting to steal and kill people i wonder
BUY A GUN-PROTECT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD!
Everyone should get a gun in their home. The more guns in the neighborhood the more police are worried and are out patrolling the streets.. Get guns to protect yourselves. Since you have to register with your local police station the cops know how many guns are in the community and will worry more about ppl. getting shot.
Jewish blood
This is an example of how hidden are regarded and treated worldwide not only in CH.
Stop letting the world think Jewish blood is cheap. We are not lambs. It was only 60 yes ago
ad mosai
CRAZY
police what are you doing can’t you tell there is a police on the loose
chana
yes, i wonder about having a gun,
it makes total sense
as long as the person knows not to panic and use it with level headedness under pressure. this is a must.
think about the whole picture
#18 – don’t get a gun unless you are willing to get training and be prepared to USE it. it’s not a decision to make lightly to end another’s life (even if they ‘deserve’ it). the problem with having lots of guns in inexperienced hands is that more often than not, they wind up in the hands of the bad guys…
calm down
this was wrong granted, but if a jewish child went up to some one and said “give me your money or else” with his hand in his pocket, would we ask for him to be arrested too? probably not, the kid was being really stupid and he probably didnt even have a gun…..lets all take a deep breath and calm it.
reuven
please keep in mind that a carry permit does NOT allow u the opportunity to hold someone till help arrives. you are not allowed to act like police, in any way. however, if you have a permit’weapon and you feel ur life is threatened do not shoot to disable the person like shooying the legs…. you shoot to kill. don’t believe me ask any other licensedc instructor. u NEVER leave an injured attacker. they will ALWAYS tgwist the story. if you are attacked you MUST finish it off. no guts to finish it off? don’t get a license.
reuven
i’m not telling you to shop for a weapon outside of ny; but, if i moved back up north, i’d be bringing my weapons with me. “speak softly but carry a big stick” aim for center-mass all the time….
These people need to be trained
Just like when you train dogs, these people need to be trained while they are still young not to steal and kill.
Inside Story
What I don’t understand is….why didn’t they arrest Rabbi Shemtov? He was obviously the instigator.
On the topic of the police themselves, they were in the middle of their morning doughnuts. They can hardly be expected to chase down violent criminals before they’ve had at least 3 and washed them down with a moccha latte.
crowne
@ NO. 7 “WOW” — what makes you assume that the perpetrator was black? couldn’t a white child be a “punk”?
@ no. 26 “these people need to be trained” — who are “these people”? comparing your 10 y/o neighbor to a dog and assuming he is a killer seems like a miscarriage of abrupt judgment that reflects as poorly on the condemner as the condemned. ‘not defending attempted mugging, just saying be careful what you load into this story. (thank you calm down, no.23.
The police’s response seems inappropriate. What was their excuse? NO matter what the would-be mugger’s intentions were, I want to know the police will take me seriously if I call on them and point out someone who tried to steal my wallet! What a joke.
BTW — most children shot with guns are shot by accident in or near the home. I have a lot of firearms experience but I wont have one in my house with my sons and daughters.
AD MOSAI ......AD MOSAI
TO # 28 WE KNOW THAT IT WAS SCARY OR WHATEVER IT WAS BUT B”H IT WAS JUST THAT AND NOT S/T ELSE
HASHEM HAVE PITY EVEN THOUGHT UR NOT CHECKING CROWNHEIGHTS.INFO EACH NIGHT!!
NYPD Classifies Everything As Harrasment
Don’t worry he’s just getting started. He has his whole life ahead of him. He’s learning.