38 Comments

• Cops are sipping coffee all day!!

  this is crazy!!! the police are not doing anything to stop these guys. they have to start paying attention these stupid cops. The shoock that this kinda incedent can cause a person is on an enormous scale. It takes sometimes months to get over these things!!

• mendy

  they are smart, they think that we think they will only attack at night.so they attack by day when people least expect it! if anybody sees 2 or 3 people who are running out of a biuldimg its probally these guys! dont dissmiss the idea and say its nothing, rather follow them and call shomrim and police.

• Scared

  Where are our leaders?? Peaceful protests at the precinct? A united voice?? Where is Sperlin why dont I see pictures of him and a statement from community council expressing what measures they are taking for the safety of us all…

• Y.L.

  I live in this building. What in the world is going on! Why don’t the police department catch these a——–! Stop writing tickets for expired registration stickers, and start policing the neighborhood.

• Of course!

  As long as the 71st pct continues to let the muggers and assaulters off the hook, they will grow more and more brazen. Especially when they know that a “friendly” wittness can always be counted on to say that the jewish wittness or victim “beat him”.
  The cops think it’s all fun and games when it happens to “whities” – but when more of these thugs openly carry around these weapons, sooner or later, one of their own may join the long line of victims.

• what

  where the hell is the vaad hakohol getting the security we need. every building should have police officers at the entrance doors.

• Satmar Men Lubavitch Women

  Learn From Williamsburg. They are tough and they have gotten rid of much of this problem in their area by being tough. The word gets out. Beat them up badly and they wont come back. Otherwise you are known as sissys. Forget the police, take matters into your own hands and fight back.

• Chaim

  Give Chanina a gun and let him and his driver clean up Dodge City.

• Coppers,

  someone needs to go around taking pictures of these cops in action, they are practically useless,

• crown heights

  Is it the same peaple who robed in wilamsberg like 2 weeeks ago on Bedford Avenue (The new wilamsberg) I saw it on Yeshivaworld.com that 2 men came into the store and pointed a gun @ them and demanded money would it be the same 2 peaple.
  Hey you never know
  check it out on yeshivaworld.com

• Crown Heights IS different

  Dear Satmar, Crown Hts is different from Wburg. If a White Jew touches a Black, whether he is a criminal or not doesn’t matter, it becomes “An Incident”. The District Attorney will prosecute, the papers print “A Story”. We must let the police do the police work. Too bad they have become “Meter Maids With Weapons”. Alas, they prefer to spend the day in traffic court, gloating over their victims and helping the city assess fines on motorists.

• every Jew a .22

  Ach, forget the Vaad Hakahal, they don’t give a hoot about the rest of us poor souls they only care about lining their pockets with govt $$$.

  Get a gun. Use it. It’s the only thing that will stop these thugs.

• watched the perps. get away

  Oh, we have nothing to worry about. The NYPD put a helicopter up in the air a short while after the incident.
  It circled the neighbor hood a few times and made a lot of “calming” noise to let us know how much the NYPD is doing to protect us. Hard not to feel safe, huh?

  Just for good measure, within a half hour of the incident, there were at least five Police cars on the block in case the perpetrators would decide to return.
  Such a great show of force by the Police almost makes it feel as if the incident never occured.

  Somebody deserves a medal, and he’l get it just as soon as he’s done his doughnut. (please allow 10-15 mintes response time)

  Sincerely,
  A passerby who watched the perps. get away.

  p.s. About 20(!!!) minuts after the incident, some hero cop made a right turn from albany on to montgomery. Boy, is HE some crimestopper!

• bottoms up

  you know the police are doing the best they could its just that its very hard to find them they all look the same with their pants half down the only way you can recognize them is by the color of thier boxers

• Daniel Botnick

  NYPD was on the scene five minutes after 911 call. The 911 lady seemed have some difficulty understanding the call – it was in English. Twenty minutes after the call there were about seven cruisers on the scene – pointed every which way. Then a little later there was the stupid ‘copter. Whole deal makes me feel pretty unsafe. Cops are enjoying the new dunkin donuts

• chaya chohen

  today in the afternoon i went inside the store koltuv, my dauther was waiting for me in the car next to koltuv ,five minutes later i came out grom the store ,i see apolice man give atiket to my dauther ,i asked him why he is doing this ,he said nancens ,she is standing in the bus stop ,she was begging him and i told him first its not on the bus station, and second she was in the car ,and the minate she will see the bus she will move on ,and third it was five second ,nothing help and he gave her a100.00,ticket. i hope we will fight for this ,but the apoint is this is not normal what going on in the schuna instand of waching the blacks guys from rabbery and god for bit with guns ,they are busy off giving tichets for nothings .i fel;t spechily this police was antesamity how he spoke to us ,and more ……i think the vahad hakol have to potrol more and do some more steps to protect the schuna

• look on both sides

  now it is a new thing they got an idea to come to people’s houses and thret them to give them money.
  if somewon is not going to do something it WILL get worse.
  then they will come in your car and tell you to get out.
  or they will ask you your bank acunt number.
  black people when they see a open place to go they will go all the way.

  and also who knows if the gun that they are useing is real not that i am saiing to test them bit just to tink about it.

  and also if people are complaining that the cops are not doing enithing what do you want that they should do?
  no realy you want them to start serching every other guy to see what they have on them?
  or maybe to have x-ray vision glasses.
  the world is not safe and not perfect.
  but someone has to do something…anithing…

• WHERE ARE THE COPS

  why dont we see cops on EVERY corner of CH??!!!

• you should know that

  ya the vaad is to busy knowing who is the one incharge of the vaad. you think they care for us?
  when they have a chance to make money the will sell there mothers grave!!!

  and people should know that!!!

• Yossi

  The Vaad is not savy enough to get government money. anyhow, it would be illegal. only the CHJCC can get government funds, and they blow it because they lack professional staff with any know how to get the money. Chanina needs a grants professional. They don’t get it!

• ch member

  “Where are our leaders?? Peaceful protests at the precinct? A united voice?? Where is Sperlin why dont I see pictures of him and a statement from community council expressing what measures they are taking for the safety of us all…”

  good question. when the new vaad took office they ran to give peter simmeneti a letter of recomendation for all his great work he has done for the community. they even wrote “a deeply religious man” about a goy that has targeted jews in this community. this past christmas chanina again gave them rewards for the great job they are doing. what great job?>

  the rewards were given to the same cops that issued tickets to the shomrim scooters and that is why chanina rewarded them. peter simmenetti is a criminal and his community police unit are a gang

• scared

  This is seriously quite scary. Can we let our kids walk at night?? We need to get our community back and make it safe once again! The comment about the Hoodlums with their boxers sticking out is hysterical and so true!

• Jews wake up

  Jews start defending urself, it starts with if u see them running like crazy most ppl can tell they did something wrong

• scared woman

  this takes years or a lifetime to get over, iv had a gun to my head and have never been the same since!!!! we neeeed to get two cops outside each apt building in ch im terrified!!!!!!!!!!!!

• Chaptzem!

  The cops can’t be everywhere all the time! People complain if they don’t show up, people complain when they do. Cops respond when there’s a weapon involved, period. Otherwise, response is slow.

  It’s not their fault that people are letting strangers in. Take some responsibility for your own actions! Be vigilant! Get PEPPER SPRAY. Keep the chains on your doors. Don’t let strangers in. Use the door peep-hole. Don’t carry your cards and money in an obvious place.

  If this happens to anyone in their apartment again, not only call Shomrim and the cops but yell chaptzem out the window.

• Vaad Hakohol

  Where is the Va’ad hakohol. They are as good as our president. They will come out in a couple of days and make statements. Like out president.

• Every Jew A 22

  I think that the founding fathers gave us the right to bare arms for this exact purpose (I know that the constitution talks about fighting armed militias). Hashkem Vehorgoy

• you-re to blame

  Shame on you residents of crown heights, shame on your leaders, shame on your cops. you do nothing, you allow this to happen….

• Daniel Botnick

  YOSSI:
  The CHJCC IS the Vaad. The Vaad IS the CHJCC. If one is not savvy, neither is the other. At any rate There’s a lot to be desired there.

• COncern and avid watcher

  isnt there surveillance video on this corner?
  Remember that car accident that almost hit a bochur on this bulding, but bh it didnt
  get those tapes and get these guys!

• worried

  It starts from the small, not impotant incidents. If this goes untreatd, no wondwer what we get today. We need to go back to Juliani’s time with zero tolerance for the littlest crime. I hope someone who has influence will use it for the benefit of the shcuna. And yes , the trauma is teromendeous.

• WHO DOESN-T DO HIS JOB????

  i always come to the comment when i see a crime and it’s always the same complain:
  – Police don’t do their job
  – Leader don’t do their job
  – now people don’t do their job
  OLA!!! what going on here nobody is doing there job, maybe hashem is doing is job!!!
  maybe it’s a WAKE UP CALL FROM ABOVE you want all OF THE MENTION ABOVE to do their JOB do YOUR
  – Mother walk with TZINOUS IN THE STREET OF CROWN HEIGHT
  – father take care of your sons CHINUCH SO THEY WON’T BE kicked out of school and erre in the street of crown heights
  – people stop talking gossip all day about A B C……
  – Earning money is to help YOUR family to have an appropriate apt, to give good education ect not to have BETTER THAN WHAT THE NEIGHBOR HAS.
  – STORE stop raising your prices!!! for what to be able to take your family to FLORIDA!!!!!

  when EVERY JEW WILL DO HIS AND HER JOB THEN THEY WILL HAVE THE ZECHOUT TO COMPLAIN.
  THE TORAH SAYS “LO YANUM VELO ISHAN SHOMER ISRAEL…….” IT WILL BE WHEN………DOR WON’T BE LIKE “DOR KE PNE AKELEV”

  SAD TO SAY!!!!
  WE WANT MOSHIACH NOW, SORRY I WANT MOSHIACH NOW!!! AND MAYBE FEW OTHER JEWS WANT MOSHIACH NOW!!!SHCUNA WAKE UP!!!
  SAD TO SAY “MOSHIACH IS NOT ON HIS WAY!!!”

• do not call the cops stupid

  you gain nothing by it.
  They may sometimes be inefficient-
  and often it may be a result of what they may have been told to do by the upper echelons…

  The cops cant be everywhere at once. We need cameras everywhere and us residents need to be more vigilant too.
  Do NOT open the door unless you know who it is!

• Dave

  Yup. It’s the Vaad that did this. I think Sperlin can be seen carrying the gun. Blame the Vaad. (Remember the violence last year (long before the VH elections)? That’s also Sperlin’s fault. It’s all their fault!!) And once we’re talking about money being the issue, remember that the New Vaad claims that MR bankrupted the Vaad in order to pay for his own personal legal fees! So don’t go crying for the old Vaad because there’s no money to properly fight crime! Support the Vaad, send them a check, and join their fight to make CH a safer place!

• The Silent Majority

  to Dave:

  What fight are you talking about? The only fight the new Vaad Haklala has is against the Rabbonim and the Lubavitcher Chasidim of CH ( i.e. those not part of the Flag Party aka Degel Hatorah). Since Motzei Shabbos we have had 3 life threatening incidents, did anybdy see or hear any one of these self appointed Vaad clowns. It’s time to break out color war!

• Unkown

  I think that the whole world should have a camera in buildings and houses so that the police of CROWN HEIGHTS WHICH THEY ARE STUPID MORONS can spot the bad people!!!!!!!!!! Just letting crown heights know that… I’M NOT LIVING IN CROWN HEIGHTS!!!! LIVING IN MINNESOTA WHERE IT’S COLD!!!!! I WANNA MOVE TO L.A!!!! NICE COPS THERE AND NOT STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• Out-of-town

  What about having every block or so pool resources and hire private security guards for each block. Then you can call in the newspapers to report the measures that need to be taken to secure safe living…hopefully at that point the city needs to save face and actually sends in more cops, which it sounds like are missing.
  Certainly any increase in Achdus will most likely have the greatest effect.
  Hatzlocho…A Fellow Lubavitcher, feeling the pain in “out-of-town”.

• hans

  that is ur problem right there –> Vaad Hakahal, and the popacks, they don’t care about u, they care about the goverment money they get to keep crown heights in the shape it’s already in. Where do these criminals live? they live in popack buildings, so what that Vaad Hakahal and popacks, hagers throw a few dunlits a few times a year, it means only to keep u stuck on stupid, people.