CROWN HEIGHTS, Brooklyn [CHI] — A school bus dropping off Beis Rivkah school girls, had a rock thrown at it as it was driving on President Street. Thank G-d no one on the bus was hurt. The incident took place at around 4:00pm between Kingston and Brooklyn.
A number of Shomrim members responded and began following the group of 4 Black teens down President. While the bus driver identified the group, Shomrim then called 911 and had police respond.
More pictures in the Extended Article.
Group Throws Rock at School Bus, Shomrim Apprehend, Police Release
CROWN HEIGHTS, Brooklyn [CHI] — A school bus dropping off Beis Rivkah school girls, had a rock thrown at it as it was driving on President Street. Thank G-d no one on the bus was hurt. The incident took place at around 4:00pm between Kingston and Brooklyn.
A number of Shomrim members responded and began following the group of 4 Black teens down President. While the bus driver identified the group, Shomrim then called 911 and had police respond.
More pictures in the Extended Article.
All 4 teens were stopped and arrested on President between Schenectady and Utica, after the bus driver returned to the scene, identified the group and made a statement to police officers. The bus driver told police that he saw the group walking to the right of the bus and one of them was holding something in his hands but couldn’t see what it was, then all of a sudden he heard the crashing sound a rock hitting the bus, and the group fleeing.
The 4 teens were identified as being 14 to 15 years old and are students in the St. Marks Private Day School which is located on President and Brooklyn. At the scene a Black woman shouted at cops that “they [police] are just arresting them for no reason” as police put the perpetrators in the cars.
Police requested that the bus driver return later to the police station to make a statement. After finishing dropping off the girls, the bus driver went to the precinct and when police asked him to point out which one of the 4 threw the rock, he couldn’t say with absolute certainty which one it was and police released the group without charging them.
Police consoled the bus driver, telling him that they took the teens information, but the bus driver grumbled “what kind of message does this send to any other teen in that school? That it’s ok to throw rocks at buses and even when you get caught they won’t do anything to you.”
This incident joins another rock throwing incident that took place around 6 months ago when a Lubavitcher Yeshiva school bus was pelted with stones, a few weeks later detectives of the 71st Precinct announced a number of arrests from that incident, this was thanks to the 71st Precincts former Commanding Officer who took the incident seriously and wanted to prevent such occurrences from happening in the future.
yoli
get the cops off the streets!!!!
concerned citizen
What you are implying is that in order to get away with a crime all one has to do is get a group of people together to throw things at buses, cars and people since it would be hard to point out which one of the group was the one that actually threw it.
P.O-ed
I have an idea…why dont u throw them ALL in the slammer n then see how fast you figure out which one of them did it..I bet they wouldn’t even get halfway out of the precinct before the truth came out…UNREAL!!! When will the copos start taking these things seriously…does someone need to die CV??
to p.o-ed
nope
ROSE
THE BROTHERS KNOW,IF THEY DONT SEE WHO THROUGH THE ROCK THEY WALK! THIS HAS TO CHANGE! IF THE ROCK WOULD OF KILLED A CHILD,THE STORY STILL STAYS! THEY WALK.NOW IF YOU TURN IT AROUND AND YOU THROUGH A ROCK,IF THEY GRAB YOU THEY MAY KILL YOU,AND THE COPS WILL FIND CHARGES TO CHARGE YOU.
CH cynic
What are they supposed to do? arrest them all because one of them threw a rock? Get real people, there may be a problem with the cops, but don’t blame them for this one. There’s nothing they can do.
A Real CH-er
Why don’t some concerned citizens from our community have a meeting with the principal of the S Marks School. It seems, even though we don’t know which ONE threw the rock, they were ALL involved. What the heck kind of education are these teenagers getting in that private school?? This is absolute INSANITY. Dear Police Dept….. Let’s get real here in CH. Please nip this BS in the bud, ok?? Do we in CH have to resort to Williamsburg techniques??
You know me
TO Mr P.O-ed perhaps you have a short memory but only a short while ago a member of the community was killed R“L by a ”stray“ bullet from what I understand the case is still open.
Yes of course the police dept. does the standard I’m sure there will be a police car in front of the yeshiva tommorow and the day after. But sure enough they will disapear.
I believe there are a number of eitzah’s to this problem.
1. Take pics of all ”suspects“ involved in ANY crime against the community as a whole. AND PLASTER THEIR FACE ON EVERY STREETLIGHT FROM EMPIRE BLVD. TILL WILLIAMSBURG. This will help everyone be on the lookout for these criminals who are bound 2 strike more the once.
2. Don’t call the police or Shomrim ”Chaptzem“ !!! ( You know what I mean ) : )
3. And as the case with the group who throws rocks let them try to ID the group in the ”chaptzem“
Please use your ”Seichel” obviously parts of this post were written with sarcasam.
happy
if he saw someone holding something he should have pointed him out.
Mother of daughter on this bus!
That’s the bus my baby goes on everyday. They are 3 and 4 year old girls. I hope that the little ones will not be scared to go on the bus tomorrow.
You know me
Shomrim never called the police, the police noticed that Shomrim were racing around the street in a scooter and stopped him to see what was going on.
When the police asked who called 911 all the members stated ohh I didn’t have time to. (It was enough time to follow the teens 5 blocks who were walking?, at a normal pace) The bus drivers statement was that “I’m not sure who threw it but heard a loud bang and turned and saw 4 black teens, so it had to be them; who else could of it been?” Also personal note the teens were from St. Marks school, and all the students were dismissed from there, many students in the area not just the four. The police went back to the location where the driver of the bus stated it took place, and checked the cameras and the angles showed nothing (possible bad angles) but from no one running, no rocks being thrown, hurled.
Here is a suggestion, call 911 if it is confirmed, don’t follow 5 blocks. If you want to help out the community, call 911 while your pursuing don’t wait.
Yoli you comment is noted but, do not believe everything you read on here.
I agree....almost
Ok, first off. I do agree with most of what you’re saying–with one minor alterarion to your words. And i think you’ll agree with me once you read what i have to say.
Don’t blame the arresting cops. I’m pretty certain that they aren’t the decision makers in the grander scheme of things. In fact, these cops were doing what was right. They tried to put these kids in jail, tried to give them the much needed scare. But if you’re going to point fingers, don’t point at them. To the main decision makers, the patrolling cops are like pawns. They did their job, arrested these clearly troubled kids, and did what they could to prevent the situation from happening again.
Think of it this way, if you were arrested, in public, for any crime, how fast would you return to your old ways and commit the very same crime once more.
There’s no doubt these kids got the scare they deserved. We should thank these 4 arresting police officers for doing their job, NO MATTER WHAT THE HIGHER UPS DECIDE.
Some1
You can not charge someone if the person can’t ID who did it.
police don-t care about crime
My friend had something robbed from her and went to the police station on Empire. She said she had seen the person before on the street and could id him. The police said that if that it the case, she knows the person and it is not a case of a robbery but of a lost object. She didnt know the person but she knew she could identify him. (She’s good at remembering faces.)
MONTREAL
WHAT CAN WE DO AFTER ALL THEY DO ALL LOOK ALIKE !!!
Get em
why don’t u just say that that ONE did it.
he wont be able to prove otherwise.
A student who listened in class!!
They cannot b arrested w/o specific proof of who threw the rock…its law.
west philly
i live in philly and my friend got assaulted in a very black area. he called the cops and they went to every single house on the street and arested every black male until they caught the guy…meanwhile the other bochurim went around in a car with baseball bats and crobars ready to pumble the guy. if this happens again just stop the bus and smack them around a bit!
Menachem
Chanina will take this issue up with the Police Commissioner Kelly and Mayor Bloomberg at his next photo op with them
sammy the bull
the cops ar only hear for one thing and one thing only TICKETS ….
Boruch N. Hoffinger
BS“D
To: I agree….almost wrote:
”…clearly troubled kids,…
Who said they’re ‘troubled?’
Since when do we have to be ‘melamed shus’ with
non-Jews?
Maybe they’re jealous? This isn’t being ‘troubled.’
Have YOU no jealousy in you?
Continued jealousy is a sign that you don’t believe that whatever another person has comes from G-d. Pirke Avos teaches us that jealousy prduced hatred.
These scum go to a religious school!
I’d love to throw rocks at them!
Split their heads open – halevai!
If the bus driver (Or others) knew for sure the rock(s) came from this group then they should hold them all over night and threaten them. Slowly, perhaps, the one who threw it would be revealed. The group is probably a nasty bunch, anyway.
There’s no real love anywhere, so what do we expect?
usless pigs!!!
i had an incident about 6 weeks ago. where a black teen threw rocks at me. i ran after him while calling 911. some other bochurim joined me in the chase and the teen got scared and ran into moving traffic on eastern pkwy. a police car happened to be driving by and stopped, the kid ran into the police car for protection. to make a long story short the police tried to turn the story on me and blame me for chasing him. and told me they couldn’t do anything to the black teen and let him go. even though i saw him throw the second stone at me (the first one i didn’t see but i turned around after it was thrown). they refused to even take a police report!
???
Seriously, the police couldnt question the boys themselves and find which boy it was???? This is nuts
cher
i wonder if the roles were reversed? there would be another riot in crown heights…i don’t understand why our children can not be left alone, why don’t they bother each other and throw rocks at their own buses!!!!!
g-d-s right hand man
faith is the perscription
the creator of the ear hears
the creator of the eye sees
can fear and love of g-d exist in the same house
“keep the faith” Avrohom Abba Reichik
g-d-s right hand man
where do you think you are
in a different city of the usa approx. 8 years ago i was on a public bus one night and a mexican ran along and smashed a window the driver stopped for less than a minute and continued along the route
same city on 4/7/08 I got threatened & assaulted by a black guy that looked like rodney king and an old black woman with white hair said I called him a n****r & attacked him the police made different reports and botched the case
with one tooth less those blacks are unforgiven and the city has to many problems to have a good economy
the self righteousness must come to an end before the cost is to great
why?
why did they let them go? why not arrest them all?
Their Faces!!
you have pictures of the kids backs, does anyone have pictures of their faces? can you print them and post them all around crown heights with beware on them??
WE are not racist
We need to avoid making racist statements like these, “WHAT CAN WE DO AFTER ALL THEY DO ALL LOOK ALIKE !!!” There are plenty of people that would say the same things about us and we’d be the first to shout that they are anti-semetic.