Don't mess with Exodus.
A group of Hasidic Jews meted out swift street justice in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, to a man they say threatened to shoot a neighborhood storekeeper.
VIGILANTE OYZ IN THE ‘HOOD’
Don’t mess with Exodus.
A group of Hasidic Jews meted out swift street justice in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, to a man they say threatened to shoot a neighborhood storekeeper.
At about 5:30 p.m. Thursday, the man threw two watermelons to the ground at the Division Mini Mart on Clymer Street when he began cursing at the storekeeper, cops said.
“I hate Jews!” the store manager – who gave only his first name, Moses – quoted the man as yelling. “You should all die!”
Moses said he told the man – who other witnesses said might have been drunk – that he would have to pay for the watermelons but the man refused.
Several witnesses claim the man yelled, “I will shoot you!”
Moses said he would call police. That prompted the man to barge out of the store, and push a 13- or 14-year-old boy to the ground as he knocked the black fedora off his head – a grave insult to Orthodox Jews.
“It’s absolutely an insult to be without the hat’ . . . It’s a tremendous violation of privacy against a person,” said community leader Isaac Abraham.
The man then began running down Clymer Street while a group of about 25 neighborhood residents gave chase, catching up with him in front of Steinberg’s Kosher Bakery two blocks away.
There, a Post photographer saw at least two men wrestle the man to the ground. A large crowd – including members of the Shomrim, a volunteer community patrol – gathered around him as he lay on the ground.
They held him at bay until police arrived from the 90th Precinct.
A woman who works at the bakery and gave only her first name, Judy, said the man seemed apologetic.
“I heard him tell [cops], ‘I’m sorry, I didn’t mean it,’ ” she said.
Abraham insisted no one roughed the man up.
“Nobody touched him while he was on the ground,” he said. “There is no reason to overreact.”
Officers patted the man down and found no weapons or other contraband on him. No one came forward to press charges, so he was let go.
Moses said ‘the outcome of the incident “bothers me. I wanted to press charges.”
The neighborhood has grown much safer compared to a decade ago, but has seen an uptick in crime in the past year.
According to police statistics, major crime is up over 13 percent compared to last year – with robberies up 11 percent, burglaries up 13 percent, grand larceny up 24 percent and the number of murders jumping from one to three.
Voldheimer
metoch shelo lishma bah lishma
Fight back, WIN!!
I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again…we can & should learn from Williamsburg. They do what they have to do. We wimp out & let our wives & kids get attacked. And when the cops don’t do anything, we whine like puppies.
Street justice. It’s all these thugs know & it’s about time we started using it. It’s a deterrent.
That was a GREAT photo!! Look at him snivelling in terror & NOBODY is touching him. A classic!!!
Mendy
Mei’hem Yir’u ve’chein ya’a’su!!!!
Minor Detail
“It’s absolutely an insult to be without the hat’ . . . It’s a tremendous violation of privacy against a person,” said community leader Isaac Abraham.
Interesting to note that the people in the picture are not all wearing hats!
Could do better
Shvacher maises for Wiliamsberg home of the Chapsem.
moishy
I think he was very lucky the women didn’t get there first.
all for it
crown heights should do the same
wrong
they cant just let this man free..there us no justice in this world.
hmm
exodus?
plz explain
Weird
Rediklas and why on earth do anintai semeteic people living in boro park?
Tomim
this is great! we should have even less rochmonus in ch for those who threaten us. show them that a Jew is not a person to be trifled with!
Eliyahu
what happened to the good old days when they would just beat them and leave?
berlin
these honkeys rock the house, they probably sat on him and gave him some cholent to eat, that will clog up his arteries and make him sit on the can for a week!!
crown heightser
now i see why people get upset with this site, what does this have to do with crown heights?
cher
dido for crown heights
Primo
Most people in the picture are not wearing hats…
Yosef
WOW
Broken clock-s right 2x/day: YEAH JEWS!
B”H
Despite the issues our community may have (or may have had?) with our brothers and sisters in Williamsburgh, there are some things we Crown Heightsers need to learn from SOMEONE.
Let’s let this be a lesson to Crown Heights. We need to show our Jewish Pride; if we don’t stand for something, we’ll fall for anything.
Notice that NO ONE got arrested in this incident; the Jewish people involved did not press charges against the hateful non-Jew, and there is no Police effort to find (nor to punish) the Williamsburgh Yidden (Shomrim or not) who took on the perpetrator. The matter is done, neatly.
And the press continues to make sure the public knows that the ilk of this hate-monger will not be tolerated in Williamsburgh.
‘Wonder why our 71st Precinct hasn’t taken lessons from Williamsburgh’s 90th Precinct.
PS — Did anyone see the article in one of the big NYC newspapers recently, about the making of bike lanes being opposed in Williamsburgh, because it sends non-tzniusdike visitors through the community as they utilize the lanes?
Why didn’t it occur to US to have an issue with this, before the lanes were put in on East New York Ave. and on Maple St.??
But then again, Crown Heights continues to host the Caribbean Day Parade every year; that says it all, eh?
ceo
wonder if any of the non jewish crowd know that if it was the other way around, the non Jewish crowd would have made the guy into mush on the sidwalk till the cops came. Here they just held him at bay.
zak
To yeah Jews.
You write:
“PS — Did anyone see the article in one of the big NYC newspapers recently, about the making of bike lanes being opposed in Williamsburgh, because it sends non-tzniusdike visitors through the community as they utilize the lanes?
Why didn’t it occur to US to have an issue with this, before the lanes were put in on East New York Ave. and on Maple St.??”
Well maybe the answer is that we have better things to do with our lives.
Besides trying to be extremely selfish, that is.
I can not understand your reasoning.
Not one iota.
There are people who want to go biking (for whatever reason, commuting, exercise ect.), the bike line assists them, let them have it.
Why wreck their fun?
Let people live.
Why do you think you are any better then they are?
If you have a problem.Then don’t look.
And while you are at it. Don’t leave your hole, you never know what you may see on the street.
End of story.
LR
i dont think we want a reputation like williamsburg. yes the crimes bad but as SHLICHUS focused chassidim we need to not have reputations as being jewish thugs.
plus, since when do we look to the Satmars as an example? should we learn ahavas yisroel from them also?
Moishie
Too much Shnops?
From NY POST
By CYNTHIA R. FAGEN
Posted: 4:31 am
September 14, 2008
An apologetic New Jersey dad whose troublemaker son threatened to shoot a Hasidic shopkeeper in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, in a boozy tirade last week insisted yesterday that his wayward offspring is mentally ill and not an anti-Semite.
“I don’t want people to think it’s a hate crime. It’s a drunk thing,” said distraught dad Ben Kircher Sr., 58.
“He’s not that kind of person when he’s not drinking,” he said of his estranged son, Ben Jr., 28.
Jimmy Jones
Gentleman, there is a very big lesson that should be learned from this, the goal of Shomrim is to bring about the reduction in crime, and the way to do that is not by committing a crime yourself, because then you are no better than the criminal himself.
Shomrim in all four neighborhoods adhere to a strict moral standard with regards to how they handle perpetrators that have been caught, and this is just a tiny example of it that we are seeing thanks to this NY POST reporter being there.
In Crown Heights we unfortunately have a group of hooligans that administer their own version of vigilante justice which nearly brought a riot upon us. It’s seriously time to do away with this lawlessness.
Thank you Shomrim for showing us the moral standard you follow, time and time again. For protecting us and keeping our streets safe while working hand in hand with the police department. Thank you!
Oh Please
Oh Please! this wasn’t a serious crime. Just a drunken nut. When things like this are exxagerated, we loose our credibility when the serious crimes happen.
Dear Zak, from YEAH JEWS!
B“H
Dear Zak,
It is so sad that you ”cannot understand“ the reasoning behind people who try to lessen somewhat the displays of non-Tzniuskeit in a frum community.
The Rebbe reminds us that, ”When you’re close when you should be distant, you will be distant when you should be close.“
This quote means a few things about marriage,and about relating to the opposite gender in general. One of these meanings is that the more casual/unconcerned/jaded you become about inappropriate contact with the opposite gender, the more of a not-good effect that will have upon your most significant adult relationship, that with your spouse.
It is so sad that you feel this way. What happened to you?
It would not ”wreck“ anyone’s ”fun“ if NYC put their bike paths a few blocks south, to be on streets that are not part of a frum neighborhood. It also doesn’t mean that bike riders have nowhere to ride, if the paths are not in the frum section of Crown Heights; it just means that more of the bike traffic would move a few blocks south.
You sound either like an anti-Semite or a self-hating Jew, when you say things like:
1) ”Let people live.
Why do you think you are any better then they are?“
(Nothing in my remarks tries to NOT let people live; it doesn’t mean anything about thinking anyone is better or worse than anyone else.)
2) ”Well maybe the answer is that we have better things to do with our lives.
Besides trying to be extremely selfish, that is.“
(Next thing you know, you’ll be saying it’s ”selfish“ to ask anyone to have cultural sensitivity to the Orthodox standards of this community: ”Hey, what’s the big deal, I’ve got a RIGHT to bring pork and shellfish into your kosher restaurant, and to smooch with my girlfriend right in front of your shul on your holiday, etc., etc., etc.“)
3) And while you are at it. Don’t leave your hole, you never know what you may see on the street.
(WOW! You’re really upset about the poor bike riders, eh? I’m sure wondering what nerve I hit, that made you SO very angry about something like this????)
So, Zak, it seems that you really read things into what I mentioned [in a ”PS“ no less! — not even the main point of what I originally wrote!], that are not even there!!!
Now you can call up your bicycle-riding friends, who no doubt can call you their new savior, and tell them, ”Never mind; even if there were no bike lanes where the Orthodox Jews live, you’d be able to ride your bike anyway, on bike lanes just a few blocks away!”
making a boundary
to zak:
it’s called putting a gate/border/boundary around our community.
(you must try to do the best you can, what ever happens out of your community is not under our control).
TimeToLearnFromSatmar
plus, since when do we look to the Satmars as an example? should we learn ahavas yisroel from them also?
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BS”D
YES! They have an organized bikur choilim, an organized gemach that saves private people and businessmen from having to pay predatory interest rates etc etc. We have nothing in CH and half of the Chabad Houses are just businesses that produce nothing except mekuravim who are not really committed.
And they get rid of their oisvorfen; they don’t turn them into heroes and role models and claim that their behavior is true Chassidus.
Satmar is not just hooligans and mecharcherei riv. Those are just the loud ones making the press – like our Sara Kanevskys and Itzik Balulus.
TimeToLearnFromSatmar
BS”D
And I should also add that in Satmar they keep proper tznius and levush even if they may have minhagim that don’t match ours!
Moshiach Now
TO: TimeToLearnFromSatmars:
You are definitely not a lubavitcher!!
It’s pretty obvious from the way you write… so don’t fool anyone…
Vos misht du araiyn chabad houses being businesses??? excuse me????
The reason for the shluchim’s tremendous success is BECAUSE of the unconditional Ahavas Yisroel we have to every jew!
Ahavas Yisroel is one thing we will NOT learn from the satmars- the only person we’ll learn that from is the REBBE!!!
I love you. lol.
TimeToLearnFromSatmar
BS”D
If being a Lubavitcher means hiding my head in the sand as I regurgitate the same canned slogans and defences over and over again, then I am proud to say I am not one.
However, that is not what I was taught it means. Not by the Rebbe and not from anyone else.
Michoel Fedosov
maybe ppl in ny don’t realize this yet but im coming from the Ukraine and i can tell you the only way to prevent these anti semitic attacks from happening is when it happens to show that we are strong and bold not cowards and weak!
like the Rebbe quotes hilchos shabbos that even if there is a question of someone trying to steal our grain even out of our border we have to go out to protect our land with klei milchomo even on shabbos! like dovid hamelech did!
we cant continue to be sheep! we were slaughtered enough!!!!!
Izzy Mandelbaum
Zak. What I have to say to you is I completely understand the bike lane issue and I agree with it. As an atheist, I don’t want Orthodox Jews riding through my atheist neighborhood in their costumes.
Seeing Orthodox Jews ride through my neighborhood in their funny costumes is a sad reminder to atheists of how religious people are still so primitive. So backwards. We don’t need to be reminded of that by seeing them ride through on bikes.