
Rosenberg Disengages from the Zablo Beis Din
BREAKING NEWS: In an email sent by Rabbi Avrohom Rosenberg just a short while ago to all the involved parties of the Zablo Din Torah he announced his decision to no longer handle the Crown Heights case.
The email was sent out just a short while ago and was addressed to all parties involved in the Din Torah.
Rabbi Rosenberg said that this decision stems from ‘a number of different reasons’ and that he prefers not to elaborate on them.
He added “if all the members of the Beis Din are willing to travel to America to continue in dealing with the case, and that further handling of the case would be before all the parties involved, I would be willing to reevaluate my decision.”
Reasons for this sudden announcement can only be left up to speculation, and certainly leaves more questions than answers.
This comes after Rabbi Rosenberg took tens of thousands of dollars from the community for the Din Torah, leaving matters unresolved and in even more chaos then it was before.
moshe
Its simple, the other Rabbanim left him to deal with everything. He is right, they should all come back to the US or better yet, close the whole case.
Rabbi Braun won, lets move on.
Moshe
tipshim
All is not lost, and being before Purim at least he took off his fake mask, and showed us who he really is. Besides comes next December he can always get a job imitating Santa.
How much money did they spend on that guy. Who is he really? A double agent sent from Australia to destroy our neighborhood. Who quits in the middle, especially when the juicy part is starting to ooze out.Oh i get it the snow melted, and like in the Wizard of Oz, you get the picture.
Anyway who exactly is our Rav? (as in Rabbi) or Rav (as in argument) Anyway if i offended anybody I apologize, there’s nothing like a Geshmakeh Purim Torah. And being close to April 1st, Happy April Fools day. i leave it up to you people to take out the Geshmakiet of this Letzones. Or is it the truth.
scumbag
milks ch for 1/4 mil and when the heat gets turned up a bit he bails, typical for someone in his position.
nice
lol happy purim
refund
Need a refund, or maybe take him to din torah.
Alfred Rosenberg
Nice. He takes the money and runs. He should be sued in civil court for malpractice, plain and simple.
What is it with people who have the last name Rosenberg? Other than Rivky Holtzberg HYD’s father, I don’t know of a single ehrlicher Rosenberg.
I had a crook named Rosenberg try to swindle me into taking an overpriced office in BP. I also know of one who married out, one who is a total madman (Nuchem who is an extortionist and a menuvel besides being meshugge), and then there is Failed Rosenberg of blog fame, and this Rosenberg who should also be called Failed Rosenberg except that unlike the schvantz blogger he got a nice wad of gelt for his failure.
Now what?
So what happens now? do you think the Shwei people are going to say that Mr. Braun is not the Rov now (notice how they dont say that he is “a Rov of CH”, they say that he is “THE Rov of CH’)?
This needs to go to a new B”D to sort out.
ch
once again the fighting has cost us. up to this point, it has cost us spiritually and no financially. Our community would benefit if all leaders forgot their egos and forgot about what is good for them and instead focus on what is good for the community. All the money that was spend could have helped the poor, abused and neglected individuals who so desperately need the money.
It is a tragedy that after all this the ‘leaders’ are still not leading but fighting.
NOT funny
your realy funny this isint somthing to joke about this is the rebbe’s shcunah we are talking about!!!!!!!!
Sam Chanin
Will Sam Chanin pay for the tickets for the other members of the BD to come to NY?
Purim
Give him some credit
We have a Purim rov
Rabbi Havlin
what does Rabbi Havlin have to say about this?
Moshe L.
in my uneducated opinion, when a psak din is given by a beis din – that is final.
If in the future a opposing psak din comes out – we would have to deal with it at that time.
interesting stuff
can you leak some more classified documents lekovod erev purim?
#11 - Rabbi Havlin?
I guess that he is not allowed to speak out against the majority opinion of the zabl”o. that is the Halacha. so if you ask him for his opinion, he will probably remain silent
please clarify
Does HaRav Havlin agree with this? Has he made is opinion known to anyone – in an official manner?
Dear Mr. Now what?
Now we can go celebrate Purim rejoicing. Let’s move on in life…
Av Beis Din deMecharcherei Riv
Now, if Tamir would only be honest and say that he has had it, we’d have some real mazel for Purim.
massage boy
Someone must have got a pic of him in a massage parlor getting a 4 handed massage and threatened him with it..
volcano erupted
Its like an volcano that just erupted but has been brewing for a long while
Very big issue have been raised since the pask din and Rabbi Rosenberg sees it not as simple to just push them aside.
funny
Is this a Purim joke?
binyomin
seems like purim came early!!
logic
Are you serious? Where did you get your to-secret information from?
Have you seen a written letter from the other 4 Rabbonim stating that they opose the Psak Din singed by Rabbi Rosenberg? (‘in the name of the beis din’).
Where did you dream up such nonsense? Please clarify you position with LOGIC.
Shimon
To #6 – The spies, Julius & Ethel Rosenberg, you should also include them on your list.
who cares?
GOOD RIDDANCE!
to number 24
How could you say such a thing?? Do you know that this is horrible horrible mistake to the Americans. The Rosenbergs were innocent! Are you just heartless or misinformed?? We are talking about young innocent parents who were taken away from there poor 3 and 6 year old sons because someone fabricated a whole story about them and they were asked to snitch who it was but they refused to as they were INNOCENT.
Money Money Money
ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY MONEY MONEY He left because he bilked the community from all the money that they have in the community funds
PS this money could have been used to help poor families in out community instead of padding a rich mans pockets.
In short follow the money trail until there in no money left then go home that is what this rabbi is doing
corruption rules in CH
From #6 –
Nice. He takes the money and runs. He should be sued in civil court for malpractice, plain and simple.
I think this is a very fair statement. This is what happened & he got fatter & richer on this community’s money.
The problem I think is EGO – Tamir’s. He made a mistake. Or he was played for a fool. Either way he refuses to admit his errors of judgment and so he digs himself into an even deeper hole. Resign! A man of principle & integrity would…& therein lies the ultimate issue. Tamir doesn’t have integrity or principle.
honesty please
how dare some of you make the outrageous claim that Rabbi Rosenberg was signing on his own without the full consent and cooperation of the entire bais din?
Do you have ANY solid evidence???
Is this Sedom that we publicly besmirch upstanding ehriliche Rabbonim just to further our selfish personal / political agenda?
This is an utter disgrace!
Oy
Hey! I know some very nice Rosenbergs!
its about time
it comes in no suprise. he has no choce as the more he stays on the case the more he gets him self in the whole. he is for 1 side and is trying to fix it but cant
yankell
# 26 yr right u know yr history ,,i just read about them may they hav a big gan edaan.. # 24 is just dumb and stupid
Shimon
“Morton Sobell, who was tried with the Rosenbergs, served 17 years and 9 months.[7] In 2008, Sobell admitted he was a spy and confirmed Julius Rosenberg was ”in a conspiracy that delivered to the Soviets classified military and industrial information and what the American government described as the secret to the atomic bomb.” [Copied from Wikipedia].
Alfred Rosenberg
24 – thanks for reminding me!
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were GUILTY! I was in Moscow when the KGB files were opened and they showed that these traitors did exactly what they were punished for.
While they were sadly duped by the ridiculous ideas of Communism, what they did was rishus that put the world in danger for many, many years and is still affecting us now.
Indeed, there was a snitch who was guilty too but just as is the case with Mafia prosecutions, sometimes a snitch is the only way to get the necessary information.
I am tired of the left wing dupes within Chabad who try to find excuses for every left wing rosho, Jewish or otherwise.T They are our fifth column; they may be Chabad on the outside but inside they are still Weathermen or whatever radical group they were part of in the 60’s and 70’s.
To #6
Are you actually suggesting that a fellow Jew take another fellow Jew to a secular court as a first resort? There are not many Aveiras worse than that. I believe just about all of kashrus ranks below this particular Lav.
Let-s back up
Let’s back up a little bit.
Bechiras for a Rav was made because:
A) a Bes din needs 3 Rabbonim and before the Elul elections we had only 2 Rabbonim, Rabbis Osdoba and Shvai, after this Bes din paskened that Rabbis Zirkind, Segal and Raitport were out.
B) Specially this case when Rabbi Osdoba and Rabbi Shwai didn’t get along to well.
Bottom line this Elul election was to complete the Bais Din.
Now since so far Rabbi Osdoba is not accepting Rabbi Braun as the 3rd Rav so;
A) We are back to the original problem which is that we don’t have a third Rav in the Bais Din and
B) Even if Rabbi Braun would be the greatest Rav with the biggest Smicha in the world, that’s not what he was voted in for. He was voted as 3rd rav and if he is not coming as 3rd rav than he has no votes. He was not voted as a seperate Rav or as Rav with Rabbi Shwai.