Photos, Video: Reb Yoel Kahan Visits Belzer Rebbe
Last night, Motzei Shabbos, Reb Yoel Kahan, the Lubavitcher Rebbe’s head ‘Chozer,’ paid a visit to the Belzer Rebbe, Rabbi Yissachar Dov Rokeach, with whom he discussed deep concepts in Torah and Chassidus.
After their meeting, Reb Yoel was given a tour of the magnificent Belzer Shul in Yerushalayim.
Photos by JDN
Milhouse
Nice. But before friendship can be restored between Lubavitch and Belz, Rabbi Rokeach needs to go to the ohel and apologize in front of a minyan for what he did 27 years ago, when he heard the most disgusting abuse heaped on the Rebbe and didn’t protest in any way. He did that in front of thousands of people, so the apology needs to be public too.
Ezra
Can I ask in which Shulchan Aruch you found the idea that A’s failure to protest against B’s bizayon of C requires a trip to C’s grave to ask mechilah? Because all of the relevant sources (the Mechaber’s Shulchan Aruch, the Alter Rebbe’s Shulchan Aruch, Aruch Hashulchan and Mishnah Berurah) all speak of מי שחטא כנגדו or מי שפשע כנגדו or similar expressions, implying that this is incumbent on the person who actually said or did the bizayon, not on those who failed to protest.
Milhouse
הואיל והוו יתבי רבנן ולא מחו ביה ש”מ קא ניחא להו
Milhouse
ויעש הרע בעיני ה’ שהיה בידו למחות ולא מיחה
Ezra
None of the sources you quoted indicate that the people spoken of needed to ask mechilah from anyone other than Hashem, let alone to take a minyan to the kever of the party whose offense they witnessed and didn’t protest. So I ask you again, where in halachah are you getting that from?
Milhouse
The sources I quoted show that failure to protest indicates consent. That means the person who sat there on the stage and listened to the abuse with approval is as guilty as if he had said it himself, and thus he has the same obligation.
Mike
Does Belz need a Chozer?
ukedai bizoyon,,,,
Millhouse,
krum as usual
ukedai bizoyon,,,,
milly and his krumkeit.
Belz were NOT the ones who asked for the meeting, do you get it?
Folks like you thrive on machlokes
Milhouse
Why should I care who asked for the meeting? What has that got to do with anything? Reb Yoel is not the Rebbe.
Yay Millhouse
Next up- meeting with oisoi hish from bnei brak? Oish – it’s too late.
It’s not only that he didn’t protest. He joined with them. Everything they stand for he stands for too – hate of Chassidim, leftist policies and much worse. He supports them. We ban his hechsher since then.
Who gave reshus to belittle The Rebbe?
Milhouse
I don’t recall him ever explicitly supporting their policies or their hateful rhetoric. He joined with them because he believed he could profit by it, not because he really agreed. But as the price of that alliance he sat and heard them say those terrible things and did nothing, and thus shared their guilt. I’m sure he didn’t like what he heard, but for the sake of profit he suppressed his conscience. Let him apologise to the Rebbe, in public as his offense was in public, and then we can make peace.