26 Comments

• Really Nice

  WOW WOW WOW

  it really is amazing all the work that they are doing to help shlichum all around the world.

• yes, I do have a problem :)

  Now, before I even start, I know I will get endless responses back, I just want to say that no, I am not on shlichus, nor do I plan to go on shlichus, but I’m of the opinion that shluchim nowadays run their shlichus as a business, I stopped believing in sending donations to various shluchim. I personally know some of my close friends who went on shlichus and I observe how their lifestyle suddenly changes. Whereas in crown Heights they were more frugal on their every day living and outings, when they went on shlichus, their lifestyles changed as well, suddenly spending became no problem, they live at a higher standard, buy a house within a year or two, the husband works less hours and is at home, the woman suddenly finds it unnecessary to be out of the house "for so long" etc.
  When I approached one of my friends and casually asked her about how they handle their financials and how salary works now— she beat around the bush— which was quite fascinating to me, being aware of how her lifestyle did change after going on shlichus…
  So..I know this will get a lot of fiery remards, I will be back to check :) and respond further.

• levi

  thats the financial reward that g-d gave them for going on shlichus.. how about you go, and will get the same reward.

• mendu

  or perhaps they just put themslves into debt?

• on shlichus

  you have a point perhaps for some shluchim but don’t generalize…most live simply, i can only tell you that meat has been banned from our table for a while already, we cannot afford it, we are not going to the kinus, cannot afford it and no, our house is not ours and our car is third hand.

• go bury yourself

  i can’t believe you the chuzapah to write what you wrote.
  a few things to have in mind.
  1.chabad houses have budgets and i hope they run it LIKE A BUSSINESS otherwise they would be bankrupt.
  2.they buy houses within a few years….did you bother mention that they live in a small town that they can afford to buy such a house.
  2b.and even if they lived in an expensive area don’t you think a leader and rabbi of a jewish community desreves to live in his own home, esp. if you are doing outreach. so you can host people properly etc.
  3.the husband works less hours. that can be depends on each shalich but they are all very dedicated.I MUST ADD YOUR RESPONSE IS FULL OF JEALOUSY.
  bottom line is if you are willing to give from yourself to klal yisroel and do the Rebbe’s work Hashem will bless you with happiness in a physical and emotional and spiritual way beyond your imagintion.
  YOU ARE JUST TOO JEALOUS OF THEM
  shame on you to look down on the rebbe’s army.
  what did you do for the rebbe? for kelal yisroel?
  i am sure you have done alot but to alot of the shluchim they have scarafised their life for the rebbe they live in g-d knows where.

• mottele

  I am a shaliach and most shluchim I know are very lmiited in their earning abilities – it is not like a profesisno like law or medicine or business where you can progreess up the ladder, no matter your success your salary stays pretty much the same yet you have to feed your kids etc. Keep in mind 1) a FEW – very FEW – shluchim do very nicely b) don’t be JEALOUS OF THEM c) a lot of us are GIVEN nice things by are baalei batim d) we HAVE to put on a show many of us are in debt etc. as a shkiach you can’t walk around in a green smashed hat etc. belive me it is NOT EASY

  AND… the worst part.. NOWADAYS everyonne has the above attitude so when you want a break at a school they look down on you or say you hsould raise the money from your baalei batim.

  I think part of the prob is b"h there are so many shluchim… kein yirbu

• YSDBG

  I would like to point out a few things to teh retard that wrote the 2nd comment.
  1) As Lubavitcher Chassidim we were created either to become shluchim or to support them anyway we can
  2) "Living well" is the least they deserve for sacrificing their Children they have little or chinuch to speak of or must send their children away as one shliach in China sends his 7 year old kid to another country to be educated is that commitment that you want to make for any money in the world?
  3) With all our education look at the way the kids in our communitty are turning out, you know the reason? The Rebbe once told a shliach that he takes responsibility for the shluchim’s children on his "Playtzes"

  How important was this to the Rebbe that you have the nerve to open your mouth, go hide your face in shame. I know I am ashamed that I am not on Shlichus, but I do everything I can to help them out, and so should you.

• respondingtogoburyyourself

  Well, I also have a problem with it! Not everyone is "Shliach Material"!!! It is very nice that the Shluchim’s office is taking such good care of our shluchim. But the ones that are not on Shlichus can use the help too. We also have frum neshamas to feed. We all need the help, face reality!
  And besides, all those young couples waiting to go on "Shlichus" are in section 8 apartments and their wealthy parents are taking very good care of them! Maybe those wealthy parents should help them out when they are on shlichus too!

• to problem person

  Sounds like typical anti-Semitism! As long as the Jew is the underdog (i.e. persecuted etc.) the world feels bad (Israel 1948) as soon as the Jew feels comfortable, the yelling begins….
  DOES A SHLIACH HAVE TO LIVE IN POVERTY?
  Trust me a lot do, but those that don’t, we should only feel happy for them, and help them (Ato m’tzuva l’oshroi…)

• :)

  how beautiful.
  someone is actually helping them out.

• yes, I do have a problem :)

  to “on shlichus”:

  If you email me your address, I will send you a donation
  aster102@hotmail.com

  Maybe you are one of the “real” shluchim out there, who spend their money and give their lives over for other Jews, don’t get me wrong, we do donate to shluchim and I put my heart and soul into my work, working for a shliach, yet I do have my opinions.

• Yes, I do have a problem :)

  to “go bury yourself”
  wow, you have a lot of anger (and spelling mistakes too ;)
  but, lets talk it out.
  I have the best of two worlds– I work for a shliach and I’m part of what you call the Rebbe’s army ;) I even got a dollar :) lol. In any case, go bury yourself was a great answer,,,,really solved lots of issues, and…jealousy is the number one answer for those who have no other way of defending themselves. Can’t wait to hear my burial place in your next rant;) will I have a spot in montifiore?

• yes, I do have a problem :)

  to “YSDBG”

  soooo many of your are frustrated here, yet I am the retarded, I’ll accept.
  In any case, you mentioned some true points, but like anything else in life, there are some shluchim who fall under the description you mentioned, and some who don’t, I am glad to help those who do fall under that description.
  By the way, why are you so ashamed not to be on shlichus? You have so much belief in them, along with your passion, you can start a gmach of your own for shluchim,,, bigger than kollel chabad.
  so, I will end off by wishing you success in your fundraising, and maybe, if I go on shlichus one day, I will come to you.

• yes, I do have a problem

  to “respondingtogoburyyourself”

  wow! one person who sees my view point, I’m sure there are many more (kein irbu :))
  I’m not starting a crusade here, but you do make valid points.

  Before I say this, I will preface by saying that no— not all shluchim are in that category— but….
  It happens to be that all the ones I know who have gone on shlichus did live in section 8— how ironic— and those are the same ones who have shlichus come up for them, while some others I know– who were not “eligible” for sectin 8, did not get any shlichus, although they were married years before some others and perfectly qualified not because the best part of them was buried in Nevel.

• yes, I do have a problem :)

  to “to problem person”

  One of you mentioned that of course shluchim should run their shlichus as a business, otherwise they’d go bankrupt— all the more so…congratulations! If they’re on shlichus, they shouldn’t ask for anything, it is obviously a job they agreed to take upon themselves with an agreed upon salary. Many couples get hired by shluchim and get a regular salary yet they go around asking for donations anyway. I say to them “congratulations” you got a job!

• yes, I do have a problem:)

  Speaking of weddings—I had the simplest wedding (and to all those who are so excited to write back that that’s the reason for my “greeeat jealousy” relaaaaaaaaaax! ) We were the happiest couple, I’m not a person who needs a lot to be happy, nor do I put people down to pick myself up…but I do speak up when I have an opinion, so here it is,

  You don’t need to make the fanciest weddings— I got the cheapest photographer, and my wedding pictures are far from gorgeous.

  A friend of mine whose parents are on shlichus had beautiful pictures, with a known photographer, when I asked her how ? etc. she started beating around the bush. Live by what you can !!!

• Itzik_s

  It is perhaps 5% of shluchim who truly live well, meaning that they have no financial worries and live prosperous lives. Remove from that those whose lifestyles are supported by family business or inherited wealth, and you are down to a real handful. And of that handful, only a couple may have suspicious sources for their good fortune. The rest were lucky enough to find a good donor or to be able to set up a Chabad House in a wealthy area where the local Jews are really open to the Rebbe’s message, or, better yet, talented enough to be able to reach wealthy Jews who are often the last to respond to hafatza.

• response

  First of all halevia this would be the situation with most shluchim. There is no need to elaborate how fruggaly some shluchim live.
  To those shluchim who have people who appreicate them enough and support them nicely, B”H! Why not, It’s not like they don’t deserve it!
  I also know of more than one shliach who gives a donation to a shliach who has less then them. They know what it’s like to have less than nothing and if they have just a tinny bit more they help out someone else.
  What about all the shluchim who are quetly supporting and feeding poor jews in their communities. There are many things you never hear about b/c for some people it seems so natural.

• go bury yourself

  To answer your comment.
  1.i have no anger on you just great amount of pity that you call yourself a lubavitcher and yet you look down upon people who are ready to dedicate their life for the rebbe.
  2. I believe you said you aren’t a shalich and never will be so I am a bit confused, I think you better get your story straight.
  3. Its quite clear you are jealous of them. go and reread your answer.
  So you even have money so why do you care if there is a fund to help poor shluchim (not the rich ones)
  I think it’s middas sedom it’s zeh nehenah vezeh lo chosor ( ask your rov what this means.) there are a lot of local chessed funds available in most Jewish communities and if you need help there is usually help, there are also funds for teachers like free Hebrew loan society, it is only fair and more then that it is absolutely vital that the shluchim who are totally depended on other people’s kindness to have as much financial support as possible.
  I guess when you have a corrupt approach in life your mind ignores the obvious and sees instead light as dark and dark as light.

• stop the fighting already

  Oh, come off it, you guys!
  No one group of us, in town, out of town, or shluchim (here and away) are a homogenous group. We all have our flaws, some do better with certain nisyonos than others.
  Get off your high horses, and chill.
  There are enough families all around that need help, and anyone with the means should help whomever he feels he can. There are organizations designed for in CH, and for shluchim. May we just not need any of them. Maybe some achdus would accomplish that?

• :-)

  its a beautiful idea! i just we had one here in crown heights for regular anash!

• Before you turn completely green

  Keep in mind that it’s a LOAN, not a gift, and you need to pay it back with headchecks over 2 years.

• rivkah

  i am surprised at the type of responses this woman received. we are ALL lubavitch chassidim and we should ALL behave in such a manner. shouldn’t we have more respect for one another. even though we might disagree with what the woman wrote she does deserve to be treated with respect.we should think how would the Rebbe want us to respond. let us hope we treat everyone with respect and dignity. and the truth to the matter is that there are some wonderful shluchim out there with termendous mesiras nefes and there are others. but one thing for sure is we treat EVERYONE with respect even though we might disagree with their point of view. we are one big family.

• Daughter of shluchim

  I have to live away from home and my parents are very hard working people and all their siblings are on shlichus and they are also hard working. and my father is not home alota nd wakes up at 3 30 in the morning alot of dayus .

• tov

  i am very upset to see people calling other people names cuz they disagree with their point of view!!where is our menchlackeit?? we need more respect from our fellow brothers. the Rebbe said that everyone that does the Rebbe’s work is a shliach of the Rebbe. so let us all do what the Rebbe wants and have more ahavas yisreol. Hashem should grant every LUBAVITCHER enough money so we wont have to take out any loans.MOSHIACH NOW!!! I am a shliach and i see so many people in our comunity that are not considered shluchim but they do so much hafotza something even more than some shluchim do. i consider those people shluchim of the Rebbe just like me. and i respect them so much cuz they dont evne get paid for it like i do. the shabbos guest these people have is just amazing and it costs them tons of money. so i think its about time that the shluchim shouldnt be holyier than thou.its everyone that does the Rebbe’s work deserves the praise and support.