BROOKLYN, NY [CHI] — Earlier today four judges of Second Appellate Division of the Supreme Court of the State of New York ruled in favor of Agudas Chasidei Chabad and Merkos L’Inyonei Chinuch, Inc. following Congregation Chabad Lubavitch’s (Gaboim) appeal.
This ruling grants complete and total control to Aguch and Merkos over the premises of 770 and 784-788 Eastern Parkway, and the Gaboim have no claim. This ruling affirms the 2007 ruling of Judge Ira B. Harkavy, as we have reported.
Click Here to view the decisions: Part 1, Part 2.
BREAKING: Gabboims Appeal against Aguch and Merkos is Denied
BROOKLYN, NY [CHI] — Earlier today four judges of Second Appellate Division of the Supreme Court of the State of New York ruled in favor of Agudas Chasidei Chabad and Merkos L’Inyonei Chinuch, Inc. following Congregation Chabad Lubavitch’s (Gaboim) appeal.
This ruling grants complete and total control to Aguch and Merkos over the premises of 770 and 784-788 Eastern Parkway, and the Gaboim have no claim. This ruling affirms the 2007 ruling of Judge Ira B. Harkavy, as we have reported.
ds
like we all needed that little tidbit of machlokes.
people are laying sick in hospitals and all you guys can come up with is this?
out of left field?
so now what? what does this mean? what does this change? does this have anything to do with the israeli boys whom most people have a distaste for that occupy 770?
obama
CHANGE!!! IS HERE… !!
YES WE CAN!!
didan notach
Check out the propaganda from the chillul hashem site:
Late this afternoon Chabad.info was informed that four judges of the Second Appellate Division of the Supreme Court of the State of New York issued a verdict regarding the ownership of 770. The verdict: 770 will continue to be ran according to the will of the Rebbe Melech Hamoshiach by the community appointed Gabboim. The verdict came after the plaintiffs did not agree to try the matter with a Rabbinical court of Law, and the appeal was submitted after a judge in a lower level court disregarded the directives of the Rebbe.
This court however, decided to prioritize the Rebbe’s instructions, and thus ruled in favor of the Gabboim.
Chabad.info will continue to report on this developing story.
Don-t they know?
Don’t they know when to give up? Don’t they know Sheker never wins in the end? Don’t they know yet they’ve caused the Machloykes & Chillul Hashem?
get a life
“like we all needed that little tidbit of machlokes.
people are laying sick in hospitals and all you guys can come up with is this?”
When it comes to your OWN 4 cubits (your Own property), then you make all those Chesbonos/calculations!
What does this have to do with people being in hospitals to begin with? did you not eat a good supper? did you not live today?
done!
to ds and all of his ilk, just look at what they posted on chabad.info, what does that tell you? they speard their cancuros propoganda and make people belive in the history they falsifide.
its good that this issue has finaly been put to bed. NOW the machloikes is over, let all the tzfatis pack their bags and go back to where they came from and leave us in peace. yes us, all of us.
Shlomo
I would like to tell yo uwhat happened to me 6 months ago. i am a new baal Teshuva man, come from a different city. So 6 months ago I started being religious, I felt a calling. And I was told to go to Ohel, and bring my concerns in letter and read it at the Rebbe’s grave. On the way there I stopped by 770. Now mind you — I did not know anything about this mishigas. So I walked in, and one of the bachurim in there told me, “leave the letter here. You don’t need to go to Ohel! We’ll give the letter to the Rebbe when he comes. See, he is walking up here, right now, just give me that letter and we’ll put it in the book and give it to the Rebbe”.
I did not understand at that time. Has Chabad gotten a new Rebbe whom I did not know, and if so I wanted to see him so much. Unfortunately what I witnessed broke me so much, that I almost left a frumkind that day. Twelve or so bachurim stood in two lines, looking up the line, pretending as though somebody is walking between them while singing, “Yechi…”.
I know a few people who left Chabad because of this meshigas. Rebbe could have been Moshiah, but he did not become one. Let it go and concentrate on being a good shluchim. Rebbe would have wanted that, this is a correct way to bring about Moshiah faster.
propaganda
“Check out the propaganda from the chillul hashem site:”
Their whole existents since 3 Tammuz is biased on propaganda,
Now thank Hashem the honey moon is over for them.
propaganda only works for that long.
And
Who cares what they say,
these are the same people that always find a way to defend trouble makes, it’s nothing new that they try to make black white etc…
Change is here!
dovid
Read the last paragraph. The gaba’im and cong. can continue to function as they had nothing to do with the lawsuit. So while CLI lost, the gaba’im won.
what is propaganda?
what is propaganda and what can it do?
Hitler, may his name be erased (I’m not trying to g-d forbid compeer anybody to that man, so hold your horses and let’s not get off issue, said that his greatest weapon was not his Guns or missals etc… he said his greatest weapon was (can you guess?) propaganda! propaganda! propaganda!
With propaganda he managed to kill Six million Jews!
Those mishichistim Who are dancing (as I write this) can dance their way out of 770!
Baroch Hashem, the time has come
That 770 be returned to the Rebbe and his Chassidim.
Let us now focus on bringing more light in to the would (instead of always having to deal with the darkness).
By the way, the propaganda will continue.
Listen to what I write here now,
in the coming days the mishichist “leaders” will send their little Boys to (try) and fight the fight, the so called “leaders” will not show their faces (hiding behind the scenes), the little guys will get in troble etc… and the propaganda machine will do it’s thing.
With a little more patience (we waited 15 years for this what a few more days) it will all be over. We the chassidim must stick together and NOT try to apologize for what going to happen (we must learn from the chutzpa that they had in the last 15 years, just we will have Holy Chutzpa). We owe nobody any explanations or excuses!
me myself and i
The Israeli solders were in Gaza for 10 days they knocked out tunnels destroyed bomb and weapons and took out many terrorists
yes Gaza is STILL a problem,
but for now who won?
according to the terrorists they did and they rejoice
dance and broadcast it life on their site
president of Israel on the world forum says israel doesn’t win wars and rejoice they do what they have to do to defend the country and move on
they are not happy to do it but when they continue to make as if israel doesn’t even deserve to exist and they terrorize we cant help it.
we can try talk from today till tomorrow but if we need to we will have to use force.
crazy as is sounds this story is way to similar to whats going on live in 770 as of this message
Twisting the truth
CrownHeights.info – you’re ridiculous. If what you’re saying is true, why are they dancing in 770 with Moshiach flags? Obviously the judge ruled in favor of the gaboim.
Let-s dance
All I see dancing is bochrim (isreali bochrim a.k.a. Tzavtim)
I hope somebody is taking pictures of the very few “Bal Habottim” that are rejoicing with the trouble makers.
whos behind it all?
“in the coming days the mishichist “leaders” will send their little Boys to (try) and fight the fight, the so called “leaders” will not show their faces (hiding behind the scenes), the little guys will get in trouble etc… and the propaganda machine will do it’s thing.”
Thats right!
Just look at how it turned out in this case, CLI “has nothing to do” with those that took off the plague.
Just look at the shmira mesira case (against Shomrim), there is nobody taking any responsibility for it (shmira, Stren, prager, chanina, spritzer and the rest of the gang) are behind the scenes, if things go goo they will be happy if they don’t go good, what do they care for a few isreali Tzavtim (they convinced to go along with this whole mesira etc… they will just disown them). this is not the first time and not the last. A new sucker is born every minute.
We all know that behind every attack there behind the scenes is the so called mishichist leaders (hiding like the cowards they are).
By the way,
they do not tell the new group that comes in (every year from israel) any back history (whats really going on, what has happened in the past etc…) How convenient for them!
For those of us that live in Crown Heights and have been watching this thing (and all the other things) happen, we know the truth and thats what matters.
We have life here, we will always live here and all the trouble makes go home. We must stop going after the little guys and go after those SAME so called misichist leaders who are behind every single Machlokes in Crown Height, it’s always the same gang. If we get ride of those very few, we will have peace in Crown Heights, peace in Lubavitch!
Chaya Mushka
To Shlomo:
I am 17 year old girl, and my parents are shluchim in California.
I was so taken aback by your story, I cannot beleive that you as a lubavitcher dont believe the Rebbe is moshiach, He told us straight out many times and would agree with His chasidim singing Yechi Adonenu. Just because it might not make sense now in the gloomy obscure world, but that doesnt mean we stop believing, let the Rebbe come and He will answer us along with Eliyahu Hanavi. We are Jews and even more Lubavitcher Jews and every chosid must believe that his Rebbe is the moshiach, It is the only way to go and the only party in town.
Every night at our Chabad house countless people looking for direction come and write in the Igros Hakodesh, and they get unbelievable answers just because you dont believe you should not put the Rebbes holy answers down. NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE REBBE! I never got the oppurtunity to meet my Rebbe but I feel He is with us and alive more then ever before, We are the dead ones! I dont know were I would be with out the Rebbe and I believe with complete emunah that he is with us in 770, our sages tell us that in a place that their was kedusha it never departs. A big part of the holy Tanya was composed by answers the Alter Rebbe wrote in response to questions of his chossidim. Until today we study the tanya in depth, and it applies now just as before. Same with the Igros hakodesh, they are answers the Rebbe wrote to people like me and you and they apply now just as before. The Rebbe Once said about the Friedeker Rebbe that He is Godliness inclothed in a Talis. The Rebbe is our Friedker Rebbe, The Rebbe is Godly, He is not like me and you and ANYONE who saw him can testify this.So the Rebbe has his ways to make sure that the answer the you get in the Igros is specifically for you, –what happeneed to Hashgocha Pratis? I know myself that I have been through hard times and the answers the Rebbe gave me was straight guidance and it was a s if he customed the letter just for me, it has helped me so much and I feel so indebted to my Rebbe. What have I ever done to have the zechus to be connected to the Nassi Hador, My rebbe!!! ABSLOLUTLY NOTHING!!
We have suffered much to long, and even in these darkest of times we choose to continue, fight and flourish! I hope Hashem sees this and Immediatly redeems us this moment!! I learned today that we can choose what to focus on, we always say that this generation is “the last generation of golus and the first generation of Moshiach” We can focus on the first half of how hard and dark Golus is or we can focus on the positive second half that we are the first generation of geual, WE will be the ones to greet moshiach!! So stop complaining and worrying, Hes here!!!
I am sure we all know this direct Nevuah from The Rebbe:
“HANAY, HENAY MOSHIACH BA!”
Milhouse
dovid, no. The gabo’im and mispalelim, as individuals, never had any rights to the space; they didn’t win anything. They were never part of the case, they never claimed any right, and Aguch/Merkos never claimed anything against them – what were Aguch/Merkos supposed to do? Name every individual who davens in 770 as a defendant? But the upshot is that Aguch and Merkos own the shul, and they have the same rights that you have in your house. They can evict anyone they like, they can do anything they like with the space, they can make any rules they like, etc. Anyone who doesn’t obey can be required to leave, just as you can require anyone to leave your house. If the shul continues as it did, it will do so only with the permission of Aguch and Merkos.
This also FINALLY puts a responsibility on Aguch and Merkos, to clean up the mess. Until now they could claim they were unable to do it. Now the court has given them all the power they need; if they do not clean up the mess it’s on their heads. If the Yechi signs are not down within a short time, we will know that Aguch and Merkos endorse them! If people are still being threatened and intimidated in 770, and the perpetrators are not required to leave, then we will know that they act with Aguch’s and Merkos’s permission! You won your case, Aguch/Merkos, now it’s time to act. Restore 770 to a place where a normal person can daven.
Shmuli
why on earth do i need to see these narishkeiten? I thought better of CHifno!
ds
for the record, i have nothing for or against this story as it is.
my problem is the spreading of it. should someone decide to file a lawsuit to settle their issues that is their prerogative and they should do as they see fit.
propagating machlokes one way or the other is a bad idea even in the best of times.
as long as the flames will be fanned (primarily through venues such as this one) the fire will continue.
chosid
CLI never claimed ownership of 770. That was repeated several times if you’ve read through the actual rulings. They were appealing for the past year whether they can be forced out. The court says no. Merkos/Aguch were appealing the burdensome and unnecessary evidence that CLI was demanding. The Court agreed that it was unnecessary.
Bottom Line: Nothing changes. At all. The mishichisten can continue to run 770 while Aguch and Merkos are officially in charge. Nu nu. That’s some didan notzach.
Menachem
Good bye goof balls! Welcome back chassidic Judaism the tradition of the Rebbeim. And how must money did Drizin waste on this useless litigation?
lost in CA
Wake up and stop acting like aguch conquered the world. They won the battle and lost the war. For them to take ove the shul, they would have to file another case against all the mispallelim that can take 5-10 yrs to wind thru the system.
Stop celebrating, and spend your energy on making sholom with fellow chassidim, esp in a year of hakhel.
it-s confusing
With Didan Notzach, it was decided that the seforim belong to Agudas Chassidei Chabad. This decision seems to reaffirm the ruling then that the seforim were given over to Agudas Chassidei Chabad,as a corporation of 770. On the other hand, the ruling seems to be saying that Congregation Lubavitch Incorporated is not the same as the gabbaim and that while Congregation Lubavitch Incorporated has no control over 770, the case was decided against Congregation Lubavitch Incorporated but did not affect the gabboim since they were not a party in the case. Which doesn’t seem to make sense because Congregation Lubavitch Incorporated seems to have been established by the gabboim.
To Dovid
it does NOT say that in the last paragraph!
to all the mevinim, what does that mean?
“CLI’s remaining contentions are without merit”
C M
What does this mean practically speaking? Are the offices upstairs going to be cleared out? Is the shul going to be under Aguch? No more Yechi signs?
YR
I took a few minutes to check out the history of the case on Westlaw (law students often have access to this site). In my very cursory research I found this in simple layman’s terms:
1. The initial argument was regarding the vandalism on the façade of 770. This quickly morphed into, who runs 770? The “Gabboim” argued that they should have some power even though the property belongs to Merkos and Agudas. The Court ruled that Merkos and Agudas clearly are in charge, end of story.
2. The Court also ruled that there should be a permanent injunction (a court order that requires somebody involved in a legal action to do something or refrain from doing something) that is quoted here:
“granting a permanent injunction enjoining defendants from any further acts of vandalism, theft, harassment, TRESPASS and/or nuisance with respect to the premises in general and the new plaque in particular, together with a mandatory injunction directing the Congregation to cease and desist from interfering in any manner with plaintiffs’ effort to maintain a commemorative plaque or otherwise interfering with plaintiffs’ interest in and enjoyment of the premises.”
One the many things that would result in this injunction would be to prevent the “Gabboim” from going onto the property of 770.
3. The latest decision has held that everything from the original decision stands. EXCEPT that the injunction will not be granted against the “Gabboim”.
In juvenile terms the “Gabboim” lost, Merkos and Agudas won, but the “Gabboim” were not decimated by not being allowed on the premises.
Milhouse
“chosid”, a chosid shouldn’t tell lies. You wrote: “They were appealing for the past year whether they can be forced out. The court says no.” The court said nothing of the kind. The court upheld Judge Harkavy’s decision that Congregation Lubavitch Inc., the entity that purports to run the shul CAN be evicted. CLI is the entity that appealed the decision, and it LOST. COMPLETELY. The appeals court said the appellant has no rights whatsoever.
“it-s confusing”, it’s actually rather simple: CLI is the Congregation. It is now under an eviction order from the landlords, and that order has been upheld by the Supreme Court and the Appellate Court. The individual gaboim were never evicted, because they never claimed to have any right there, and were never part of the case. All that means is that if Zalmen Lipskier wants to walk into 770 to daven, and Aguch and/or Merkos don’t tell him to leave, he can come in. If an authorised representative of Aguch/Merkos tells him to leave, then he must leave. It’s not a tenancy case, so wouldn’t have to go to court; it would be a simple trespass case. But it probably won’t happen, because they have no interest in preventing him from davening there.
propoganda
“twisting the truth” are you sick? is your head screwd on right? when the arabs danced in gaza that they were victoriuse, that they scared the israeli troops away, does it mean that they are right? that they did in fact win?
NO! ALL IT MEANS THAT THE PROPOGANDA THESE TZFATIM ARE BEING SPREAD, WORKS.
I was there!
To Chaya Mushka:
You are 1000% correct that the Rebbe is as much here with us as he was before Gimmel Tammuz. It is wonderful that you have received “answers” from the Igros that worked for you. I know of many instances where the same thing happened for others too. HOWEVER, our Rebbe is not here B’Guf, & you were vague in your long rant whether or not you believe he is still in 770 B’GUF. So I will address your tirade as if my assumptions are correct. If I am wrong, I hope what I write will answer others who do believe that.
At 17 you do not remember the Rebbe saying he was Moshiach. “He told us straight out many times’. Really? You were there? You heard the Rebbe say that?
Let me tell you something, Missy. I am a lot older than 17. You are younger than my youngest child. I was there, that incredible day, when I & hundreds of other women packed into 770 & WATCHED for hours. I watched the Rebbe trying desperately to convey something of immense importance, obviously the most important message we were ever to hear. But NO ONE, & I repeat NO ONE was able to interpret the Rebbe’s message. There was no clear endorsement of Yechi. It is up for interpretation also, & mine is that the Rebbe was gesticulating because he wanted everyone to stop & listen to whatever message he wanted to give.
We all speculated. I did! But there was nothing clear enough for anyone to know what the Rebbe wanted, except PERHAPS the people standing right there with the Rebbe.
You have been lied to & manipulated by people whose agenda is to take over the running of Lubavitch or who have an interest in Machloykes, or who are scared of being without a physical leader, or whose faith in G-d is shaky. They may be your teachers, friends, parents, neighbors, but they are wrong.
WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THE REBBE WAS TRYING TO SAY. We can guess, but we don’t know. Of course, we believe the Rebbe, the Nasi Hador is Moshiach but until Moshiach comes & our Rebbe is back here with us B’Guf, no one can say categorically that this is what the Rebbe said.
You & all the other young people who are brainwashed don’t have a clue. You’re lucky, your parents have taught you & you have grown up with the Rebbe as an integral part of your life in every way. Instead of attacking Shlomo & then preaching like an hysterical fanatic, look at reality. But don’t you (or the lunatics who make a shvill & imagine the Rebbe is walking through) dare to tell us, Chassidim who were here in those dark days, who grew up with the Rebbe B’Guf, what or who the Rebbe is & what he said!
NS
Can any one explain after millions that could have gone to help shlucim or needy what has been achieved ????
Does any one think that a change will happen in 770 in the Rebbes Shul as a result of this court Case ???
and what about the Major Chilul Hashem in going to court as opposed to going to a Din Torah???
Lets start Doing the Rebbes Mivtzoim Included Ahavath Israel
Torah and Finally Mivtxa Kabolas Moshiach
chosid
Millhouse,
You’re correct but draw the wrong conclusion. CLI lost the property dispute. But the injunction against them that was approved by the lower court approving a ban on their TRESPASS was indeed annulled. Tgysm they cannot be evicted. And the gabboyim have nothing to do with the case, ruled the judge. Reread it my friend.
whats the bottom line?
can aguch evict the mishachistim?
bottom line?
or did the court say mishachistim / gaboim can continue in building as before .
what will change???
here come the excusses
Here we go again, changing the discussion to the Rebbe being moshiach! What does that have to do with this?
Is the Rebbe being moshiach the excuse why we let people do what they want (like beating people up etc…)?
Every time there is such a story (of a beating or chillul Hashem) the discussion conveniently turn in to “what you don’t bileave the Rebbes mosiach” “how can you say that”?
No such thing as a moderate mishichist.
As we see, every time a Chillus Hashem happens these so called “moderates” come out defending them (mishichist/tzvaties) full force.
This discussion of the Rebbe being moshiach is just another distraction of the real issue at hand and in fact i’m ready to say it’s part of the usual Propaganda (we’ve already seen time and time again).
CN
Sounds like everyone thinks they won. Just like the manna in the Midbar that tasted like what everyone liked. A revealed miracle. Didan Netzach!!
An Attorney agrees with Lost in LA
Since the Gabboim and the Congregation were stricken from the earlier case, as per the Appellate ruling, new litigation would have to be brought to evict them from the shule. Identifying the members alone would be a long, difficult task and the ejectment case would take much time and resources. This is what is called a Pyrrhic victory, a victory offset by staggering losses (enormous legal fees and you still have the lunatics running the asylum).
Menashe
For the hundredth time,
This changes nothing. Mishichisten are (unfortunately, in my opinion) not going anywhere.
Don-t be fooled
I can’t beleive people can fool themselves when things are black and white. The properties were never in question in this case. CLI stated many times in their papers. The ruling clearly agrees that CLI which has Lipskier, Losh, Gerlitzky and Holtzberg has directors and the Gaboyim (which are the same people which is fine as anyone can be in many corporations an positions) that were elected to run the Congregation are not one entity therefore being the case only between Aguch/Merkoz against the CLI corporation which is only a managing entity appointed by the gabboyim to manage the financials does not apply to the gaboyim and the congregation that occupies the promises for the past 60 years. The congregation is not Aguch the congregation is the mispalelim and they elect the gabboyim to run the shul. Aguch will have to go to court again if they want to evict the shul but I dont think that any court will let to evict a congrgation that is there for the past 60 years and always being run by gobboyim.
Very Important!
It is important to mention once again that CLI started this case and brought Aguch and Merkos into court — not the opposite! Go back to the original court case and you will see this clearly.
thanbo
without going back and finding out what the previous orders were, it looks to me like there are two orders. one lifts a permanent injunction having to do with the plaque vandalism. the other gives Agu”ch the sole ownership of the property, and the right to evict trespassers.
there are two pdfs above, one for each. so milhouse is right about eviction, but the others may be right about the plaque.
Here come the excuses
to: Don-t be fooled
So please, stop Fooling (others and mostly yourself).
this whole claim that “The properties were never in question in this case…” is full of Bull. Perhaps that is just more of the same propaganda.
By claiming the above you (the mishichistim) are giving in a little just to take (out) more.
I’ts not working, we are all used to all this by now. your changing of history, changing existing facts and straight out leis.
The honey moon is truly over (if it must take a few more month, then so be it, we waited this long we will wait just a little longer).
Here come the excuses
Don-t be fooled wrote:
“The ruling clearly agrees that CLI which has Lipskier, Losh, Gerlitzky and Holtzberg has directors and the Gaboyim”
The only one that signed on court papers is Zalman Lipskier (nobody else), why is that?
Listen to what I write here now:
It is already known that the mishichist party is never found guilty of any wrong doings. How did (or do) they manage that (trick)?
They always find a fall guy, the sucker, the one that gives it all hes got (signs court papers and sends out letters to the community with his and only his name on it). All the other schmucks (“mishichist leaders”) hide in the back round, encouraging and couching their hero.
When it all went or goes sour (when they take a loss), they all disapeer, leaving the fall guy to take all the hits.
Not only that, they will totally disown their once hero, making him to a nothing! It been done in the past.
This time Zalman Lipskier is the fall guy!
Goodbye Zalman (we will miss you).
OK, who is next?
ONLY A FOOL GETES FOOLED BY FOOLS
Don-t be fooled wrote:
…“the congregation that occupies the promises for the past 60 years….”I dont think that any court will let to evict a congrgation that is there for the past 60 years and always being run by gobboyim.”
Facts:
In the last 14 years, almost 20 new Shuls opened up in Crown Heights, full of Yunger-ligt, Fathers with children etc…
There are many many of Anash who have not walked in to 770 in years!
Only Bochrim and some Yinger-ligt who need a place to socialize or can’t find themselves coming to shul on time and davvening with a Minyan are found in 770.Le’ts not forget those very few Baal Habotim and their Laderger friends who run Crown Heights and Chabad Lubavitch from their seats in 770.
The 770 Farbragens are empty compeered to any Farbragen in Beth Rivkah (the Rebbe is were his chassidim are).
DON’T BE FOOLED!
ANASH/SHILUCHIM DON’T WANT MISHICHISTIM RUNNING 770, AS EVIDENT OF ALL THE NEW SHULS THAT HAVE OPENED UP.
ANY NORMOL SHUL WITH NORMAL MISSPAALIM KICK MISHICHISTIM OUT (IF THEY MAKE TROUBLE), WERE DO THEY TELL THEM TO GO? YOU GUESSED IT, 770.
BESIDES, 15 YEARS THEY HAVE CONTROL OF 770, WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO SHOW FOR IT?
What now???
I hear Aguch is planning to turn 770 in to a museum,
They will make it a place were people can come and see what went on back in the days..
I hear they are going to put up all different types of signs,
I also hear that they are going to make a Shivile- path at the times the Rebbe would come Daven.
I also hear they will make a mock Farbrengen on Shabbos (and some times during the week were the Rebbe davvens) with the whole nine yards saying l’chaim to a chair etc…
I even hear that they might give out Dolores on Sundays.
Anybody that does not like what they are doing will simply get beaten up (or called a Baal Mochlokes and a non-believer).
If Aguch Does these things it will be the biggest Chillol Lubavitch ever!
How can we let them make a joke out of the Rebbe, WE MUST STOP THEM (before it really gets bad)!!!
;)
Milhouse
“chosid”, CLI is EVICTED. It was served with eviction papers, it challenged the eviction in court, and it LOST. There’s no need for a permanent injunction against it, so that was lifted.
The gaboim as individuals have nothing to do with this, because they were never asked to leave, and they never asserted any kind of right to be there. If they are asked to leave in the future, THEY WILL HAVE TO LEAVE. They will have no grounds to challenge such a request, any more than you do at someone else’s home.
That applies to you too, mr “dont-be-fooled”. You are fooled; it doesn’t matter how long the owners have allowed people to daven there, it’s still their property and they can tell ANYONE to leave. They certainly can close down the shul, evict the gaboim, and anyone else they like, with no formalities at all. Just tell them to go and if they don’t leave they can be forced. The congregation IS CLI, and it IS evicted.
Avis
to I was there
Well Said!!! And totally correct.
ATTENTION
evict the mishichistim??
HOW DO YOU SPEAK???
do you think it’s enough just to be nice to the people coming to your chabad house? be nice to your fellow chassidim!
Gayle
All I can say is Baruch Hashem!!